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Can too much manipulation be bad for a greyhound especially aggressive manipulation.
Carole Brown Australia (Verified User) Posts 32355 Dogs 185 / Races 2 11 Nov 2017 09:31
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Carole, no manipulation should be aggressive, and should only be done by an experienced person, if the dog needs it. Inexperienced people can really hurt a dog, as they don't know what they are doing. They can also make it a lot harder for a good manipulator to work on the dog, as the dog can become worried about getting hurt. A good manipulator can make a big difference to a dog's form, as I have found out many, many times over.
I have a really good person who is trained on the camera and manipulation, and I get good results with my dogs I hold a clinic at my kennels every 5 weeks, but I know someone that is always going to have their dogs manipulated to a person that is supposed to be trained but their dogs are always getting injured that is why I just wondered if that could be half the course of them always getting injured. If it was the odd one then you would say that it was injured prone.
Carole Brown Australia (Verified User) Posts 32355 Dogs 185 / Races 2 11 Nov 2017 09:57
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Carole, you have virtually answered your own question, and you obviously have seen the results from a good manipulator. If you ask the person in question to try your person, he may very well be pleasantly surprised ! Dogs with back problems, often chronic, take weight on other parts of their body to compensate, and this is often when the injuries start to appear.
Hi Carole I have already done that he seems to have faith in his guy and says he does not believe in the camera, so as the saying goes "you can't help a fool" Thanks for the communication.
Carole Brown Australia (Verified User) Posts 32355 Dogs 185 / Races 2 11 Nov 2017 13:15
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Well, you tried ! Good luck. Just out of interest, what does your fellow use the camera for ?
She was trained in the states I think the camera is the same as they use in hospitals it picks up hot spots and is good for spotting potential injuries, say for instance if a dog is unusually missing it's break or not finishing as well she normally knows where the trouble could be and the camera identifies it she is also trained in manipulation. I had a bitch that was not trapping as well as she could and being a wide runner needs to be smart out she was gone over on Tuesday problem identified the bitch did her fasted split and won.
Carole Brown Australia (Verified User) Posts 32355 Dogs 185 / Races 2 11 Nov 2017 14:01
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Thanks, Carole. Interesting information.
Philip Milner United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 79 Dogs 1 / Races 0 12 Nov 2017 19:43
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out of interest what is the camera used for in hospitals? do you mind me asking where the person trained in manipulation`?
Phillip it is a Thermal Imagining Camera used for non-invasive location of hot/cold spots under the skin in joints and muscles for humans in hospitals also commonly used for race dogs and horses early detection can help in lowering the incidence of injuries. The girl I use actually located her mothers knee injury which could have become more serious. She trained in the states. I cannot emphasize strongly the person Must be well trained, I believe there is a guy in the UK doing this but he is only partially trained. Hope this is of help.
Thomas Bambury Ireland (Verified User) Posts 69 Dogs 1 / Races 0 15 Nov 2017 16:54
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from what I have seen of greyhounds being manipulated here in Ireland it is a crazy carry on to see someone twist and turn a greyhound violently if they were not injured at the track they will certainly be stiff and sore after a session of torture properly qualified vet cannot treat a dog whether injured or not these cowboys certainly wont but they will tell the owner that he has discs out and will make his bones click to try and convince him that they can fix him it is all a con job if the vets opinion cannot do any use these boys cannot work miracles
Hi Phil, re manipulation, could you please return the booklet Greyhound Manipulation by Dr Alex Hauler which has a personal inscription by Dr Ray Ferguson. Noel
Dean Randall Ireland (Verified User) Posts 224 Dogs 11 / Races 1 15 Nov 2017 20:18
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Carole Shinkwin wrote:
Phillip it is a Thermal Imagining Camera used for non-invasive location of hot/cold spots under the skin in joints and muscles for humans in hospitals also commonly used for race dogs and horses early detection can help in lowering the incidence of injuries. The girl I use actually located her mothers knee injury which could have become more serious. She trained in the states. I cannot emphasize strongly the person Must be well trained, I believe there is a guy in the UK doing this but he is only partially trained. Hope this is of help.
Hi Dean she is not a vet. She is located in Cork. The camera is very good just to get dogs checked regularly this way (my opinion) She travels all over and holds clinics at various places does quite a lot of coursing dogs as well. Not much point having a dog manipulated for no reason. If an injury found she will write down how it should be treated or if you should take it to a vet. She even found an injury on a friends dachound which had been taken to a vet at various times and could not find out what was wrong. Once again she is fully trained.
Thomas Bambury Ireland (Verified User) Posts 69 Dogs 1 / Races 0 16 Nov 2017 08:20
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Jeannette Mackenzie wrote:
Spot on there Tom, but also dont forget the magic rolling of the shoulder! Noel
hello Jeannette long time since we have met or spoken I certainly wouldent include you as one of the cowboys in fact you are the best I have ever seen to find and treat injuries but then you are a fully qualified greyhound vet and a geni doesn't like doesn't likeeus at it the people that I am posting about are the ones that you or any vet give an opinion that the owner doesn't like they then start looking for miracles from these cowboys and as you say the art of making a dog yelp is the favourite one by pressing on the shoulder in a certain way the dog will yelp and this is the injury detected I could go on and on but wont
Mary Crotty Ireland (Verified User) Posts 1116 Dogs 0 / Races 0 16 Nov 2017 09:23
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dean randall wrote:
Carole Shinkwin wrote:
Phillip it is a Thermal Imagining Camera used for non-invasive location of hot/cold spots under the skin in joints and muscles for humans in hospitals also commonly used for race dogs and horses early detection can help in lowering the incidence of injuries. The girl I use actually located her mothers knee injury which could have become more serious. She trained in the states. I cannot emphasize strongly the person Must be well trained, I believe there is a guy in the UK doing this but he is only partially trained. Hope this is of help.
Where is this vet located Carole.
hello Dean there is a person who comes to Killmallock to check dogs may be the same person but its a Woman and she has a camera never been to her but I can find out more if you need me to Mary
Dean Randall Ireland (Verified User) Posts 224 Dogs 11 / Races 1 16 Nov 2017 11:03
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mary crotty wrote:
dean randall wrote:
Carole Shinkwin wrote:
Phillip it is a Thermal Imagining Camera used for non-invasive location of hot/cold spots under the skin in joints and muscles for humans in hospitals also commonly used for race dogs and horses early detection can help in lowering the incidence of injuries. The girl I use actually located her mothers knee injury which could have become more serious. She trained in the states. I cannot emphasize strongly the person Must be well trained, I believe there is a guy in the UK doing this but he is only partially trained. Hope this is of help.Hi Mary,that would be great,my dog that went lame in Tralee is still limping about the place the vet can't find anything wrong.
Where is this vet located Carole.
hello Dean there is a person who comes to Killmallock to check dogs may be the same person but its a Woman and she has a camera never been to her but I can find out more if you need me to Mary
Dean Randall Ireland (Verified User) Posts 224 Dogs 11 / Races 1 16 Nov 2017 11:18
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Hi Mary,I have sent you a P.M.
Laurence Lee Ireland (Verified User) Posts 507 Dogs 2 / Races 0 16 Nov 2017 11:52
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There's a lady that has the camera and goes to some tracks cork,Clonmel etc, her name is Ruth Boland.She's meant to be very good.
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