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Overly aggressive pup
Sean Lithgow Australia (Verified User) Posts 86 Dogs 2 / Races 0 07 Jun 2018 02:16
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Hoping for some advice regarding an overly aggressive puppy. We have six 13 week old pups in a 60m run together during the day. One of the boys is super aggressive and keeps attacking all the other pups in the litter. The others fight back but it doesn't seem to stop him, he keeps going. I know they are young but want to settle it before it gets too out of hand. We have tried pulling him out for 30 minutes isolation and then putting him back in. He is good for a while after that but then he always goes back to attacking the others. Any advice? What do other people do with similar pups?
Steven Martin Australia (Verified User) Posts 7681 Dogs 180 / Races 66 07 Jun 2018 03:13
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Put him in a pen, just with the dam for a month. She won't put-up with his sh1t & will put him back in his place.....as she is bigger & has a bigger bite.
Terence Leonard Turner Australia (Verified User) Posts 14 Dogs 0 / Races 0 07 Jun 2018 07:25
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Yes the dam will teach him to run, but watch out for when he gets faster, the dam will grab him by a back leg.Or get a zapping collar but only use it on the Buzzing setting.
Mark Donohue Australia (Verified User) Posts 3236 Dogs 6 / Races 0 07 Jun 2018 07:42
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Its time to separate him from the litter, perhaps with some older pups or not at all. He appears to be the dominant pup. So trial the above and I like the idea with mum too?
Carole Brown Australia (Verified User) Posts 32355 Dogs 185 / Races 2 07 Jun 2018 08:06
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Sean, we have had one or two alpha pups like this. We put the pup in with a litter sister only, and it worked out ok, as the dog doesn't usually attack a bitch pup when they are in together. They usually get first go at the food too, so he doesn't have to get aggressive about that, either. Good luck !
Mark Donohue Australia (Verified User) Posts 3236 Dogs 6 / Races 0 07 Jun 2018 20:44
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I was talking to an experienced rearer / educator and he stated that he put a three/four month old Alpha male pup with its mother and he harassed her that much, she turned on him and killed him. It only happened once, years ago, so I thought I'd share that with you as I did think that it was a good idea to have the pup with the mum.
Also, he stated that when separating the pup from the litter, make sure he can see his brothers/sisters. So, it might be wise to put him in a `run' next to his family.
All suggestions have a degree of risk, but I don't take any responsibility for any adverse reaction from the pup and others if they don't work and they are considered by the owner / rearer at his/her own risk. Just `saying'. However, I wish you well.
Michael Peter Martin New Zealand (Verified User) Posts 75 Dogs 0 / Races 0 07 Jun 2018 20:59
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Had a couple like that and they turned out mediocre race dogs
Mark Donohue Australia (Verified User) Posts 3236 Dogs 6 / Races 0 07 Jun 2018 21:13
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The pup is only at the rearing stage.
I like Alpha Males and Females. At least you know they have a bit of `ticker'.
Michael Worth Australia (Verified User) Posts 875 Dogs 2 / Races 0 08 Jun 2018 08:38
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Hey Sean, if you have some time, which you need when rearing pups. Watch and wait until he becomes aggressive then enter the yard. Dont interfere until he becomes aggressive again. When he does,give him a sharp smack on the nose and in your best dog voice,try and make a dominant growl. Sounds funny. Wait and watch response and repeat if necessary. Only repeat twice , then bring in teaser and try and make sure pup in question is interested. Have a little game with teaser then remove and watch for pups reaction. Repeat all steps as necessary. This could take a few weeks with a very aggressive pup but need to start tomorrow. If pup shows an aggressive response to the smack or growls back when you growl , then to not proceed any further. JMO Cheers 🍻
Michael Barry Australia (Verified User) Posts 7402 Dogs 26 / Races 9 08 Jun 2018 09:20
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at least sean you now know which one to get rid off , the sooner the better , he/she will be a useless race proposition ,
should be easy to sell because some love buying aggressive pups
we dont have a lot of experience but we do know the quiet laid back pups are the ones you want to spend your time with ,,
these pups became reasonable race dogs , probably not up to the standard of a lot of experts who post on here ,, but for us we were happy
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Simply muzzle them all. My litter is a year old, all 7 of them in a 3 acre field. When one starts to bully, they let him carry on for a few weeks then they all turn on him. Without a muzzel on them, Im sure I would have had a bloodbath with out them
Simply muzzle them all. My litter is a year old, all 7 of them in a 3 acre field. When one starts to bully, they let him carry on for a few weeks then they all turn on him. Without a muzzel on them, Im sure I would have had a bloodbath with out them Or just muzzle him. :)
Michael Barry Australia (Verified User) Posts 7402 Dogs 26 / Races 9 08 Jun 2018 22:14
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Geoff Bateman wrote:
Simply muzzle them all. My litter is a year old, all 7 of them in a 3 acre field. When one starts to bully, they let him carry on for a few weeks then they all turn on him. Without a muzzel on them, Im sure I would have had a bloodbath with out them
We arnt allowed here to have pups muzzled all day long
Sean Lithgow Australia (Verified User) Posts 86 Dogs 2 / Races 0 09 Jun 2018 02:15
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Thanks for all the suggestions. We have put him back in with Mum for a bit while we are out working in the backyard. She has very quickly put him back in his place when he tried to fight her. So far, so good. We have also been in their run a lot more watching them and disciplining instantly when he has been aggressive. Hopefully this makes a positive long term difference. Obviously don't wan't to give up on him as one of our best dogs 'Burnt Fuse'was this naughty and aggressive and needed to be reared with an older litter of pups for a while. Sadly we don't have any older pups to rear him with for a brief time. Thanks again!
Jeanette Spruyt Australia (Verified User) Posts 246 Dogs 2 / Races 0 09 Jun 2018 08:51
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I had six pups, separated to 3, then 2, then solo own kennel. Without going into a long story because I have to get back to tea. Definitely with another female litter sister - 100 per cent. If I get time to sit down and explain why, I will try. Forget about Mum - she has had enough already from putting up with them already. The litter sister that I put my boy with - dominated him. Of course that would not last forever, and you are always watching as to when your separations have to occur and of course there are other factors, by a certain age they have to be separated anyway, and of course if any of the pups are being harassed that is not allowed to continue. The sister that dominated the more aggressive male did it in such a cunning, wonderful way. This boy will never change, he is a Dr Jekyll and Hyde (however you say it), but he is very keen to chase, and he is who he is, and it does not define him for the lesser. He doesn't give two shits about anything, and that to me is a great attribute to have. p.s. took longer to handle on the lead - male thing I think. But caught on quick at the breakers. He will never change but i don't want him to and his siblings all have their own individual heads with their own traits and experiences.
Michael Geraghty Australia (Verified User) Posts 4138 Dogs 14 / Races 15 09 Jun 2018 12:00
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Jeanette Spruyt wrote:
p.s. took longer to handle on the lead - male thing I think.
All males can be led, Jeanette. They just need the right "incentive".
Mark Donohue Australia (Verified User) Posts 3236 Dogs 6 / Races 0 10 Jun 2018 00:55
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Ill bite, what incentive would that be? lol
Michael Geraghty Australia (Verified User) Posts 4138 Dogs 14 / Races 15 10 Jun 2018 01:24
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Lollies, of course!!!
Steve Bennie Australia (Verified User) Posts 697 Dogs 11 / Races 2 10 Jun 2018 03:16
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You always have a sweet way of putting it MG.
Michael Geraghty Australia (Verified User) Posts 4138 Dogs 14 / Races 15 10 Jun 2018 04:07
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That's because I'm just a warm, caring, beautiful, sweet human being, Steve.
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