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90 days after season (bleeding)

Brent Dunlop
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03 Mar 2024 11:49


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Hi
Is 90 days since bleeding ok to start lightly training a bitch ?There is still some swelling around a couple of nipples and she was mothering her toys until i removed them. Any opinions??



Nathan Bendeich
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03 Mar 2024 13:04


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Hi Brent ,

All bitches are different , but in general the fact youve waited 90 days until any form of training can be the reason why shes swollen around nipples

4 weeks off after first bleeding is usually enough then 1 run a week 300 mtr is enough to keep fit with free galloping at her own pleasure twice a week can help bitches not come on milk .

General rule is they wont run time again until the twelfth week after season start like clockwork to the day .
If swelling occurs wait another month .

She should be back fit racing between the 12th-16th week , as apposed to waiting 90 days to commence again still soft .

Cheers good luck



Ryan Vanderwert
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Brent Dunlop wrote:

Hi
Is 90 days since bleeding ok to start lightly training a bitch ?There is still some swelling around a couple of nipples and she was mothering her toys until i removed them. Any opinions??

Ryan Vanderwert wrote:

Have a copy of this response from a once leading vet at the Sandown clinic to this question....."If you keep a bitch in solid work while she's on season could it in anyway be harmful ?"

Answer:

The period to consider in the estrus cycle for the working bitch can last for approximately 15wks. This can be divided into 3 stages.

The first, "heat", lasting for 3 wks, is the period of most activity for the reproductive organ of the bitch. During this time the uterus is under the control of progesterone, the cervix remains partially open and the uterus is heavily congested with blood.

This basically means the bitch is more vulnerable, not only to the attention of unwanted males but also to infection.

In addition the stress of racing exercise, can also contribute to reducing the dogs immune system, making this period inadvisable for any more than normal walking or swimming exercise.

The second stage, the following 3 wks, the bitch returns to normal body function, during which it is safe to slip, trial and race.

The third and final stage can last for 9 wks. During this time the body releases a hormone called prolactin. This hormone causes fat to be deposited in muscles which then leads to muscle weakness, and a greater chance of muscle and ligament damage. Therefore it is important that, during this period, exercise be kept to swimming, free runs or handslips.

It is likely to be harmful to trial or race.

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That's word for word from a once leading greyhound vet. cheers.





Brent Dunlop
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03 Mar 2024 23:42


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Hi mate
Thanks for the answer.
I can endeavor to keep her fit next
time but what I'm wondering now is do i start running her gently now at 13 weeks or do i wait until the teet swelling is completely gone. She goes for walks about 1km per day.
Nathan Bendeich wrote:

Hi Brent ,

All bitches are different , but in general the fact youve waited 90 days until any form of training can be the reason why shes swollen around nipples

4 weeks off after first bleeding is usually enough then 1 run a week 300 mtr is enough to keep fit with free galloping at her own pleasure twice a week can help bitches not come on milk .

General rule is they wont run time again until the twelfth week after season start like clockwork to the day .
If swelling occurs wait another month .

She should be back fit racing between the 12th-16th week , as apposed to waiting 90 days to commence again still soft .

Cheers good luck






Nathan Bendeich
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Brent Dunlop wrote:

Hi mate
Thanks for the answer.
I can endeavor to keep her fit next
time but what I'm wondering now is do i start running her gently now at 13 weeks or do i wait until the teet swelling is completely gone. She goes for walks about 1km per day.
Nathan Bendeich wrote:

Hi Brent ,

All bitches are different , but in general the fact youve waited 90 days until any form of training can be the reason why shes swollen around nipples

4 weeks off after first bleeding is usually enough then 1 run a week 300 mtr is enough to keep fit with free galloping at her own pleasure twice a week can help bitches not come on milk .

General rule is they wont run time again until the twelfth week after season start like clockwork to the day .
If swelling occurs wait another month .

She should be back fit racing between the 12th-16th week , as apposed to waiting 90 days to commence again still soft .

Cheers good luck

Yep , with that bitch that has had a good dose of time off , Id start tomorrow with 2 weeks of free galloping every 3rd day , on a lead in between those days .

After 2 weeks of that Id do same routine but replace one free gallop with a 250 mtr call up , not behind a drag ! Just a call up at her own pleasure . For another 2 weeks

Then replace the call up with a drag lure for another 2 weeks , she would then be ready for 2 hit outs in 1 week after that and then ready for a slip on track over 300 mtr

7 weeks gradual work that would be and touch wood back at track trialing

Good luck bud

Ryan thats spot on obviously, but you can curb it slightly and still have welfare at the fore , if you followed that word for word in reality , your bitch would be racing for less then 5 months of the year unfortunately.





Ryan Vanderwert
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04 Mar 2024 09:39


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Yep. Good point.


Brent Dunlop
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04 Mar 2024 10:43


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Thanks Ryan that was a good read


Brent Dunlop
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Thanks Nathan
I will let her off the lead tomorrow. Any tips on limiting the distance she runs without taking her to a track with a catching pen? She goes pretty hard and runs til she drops so im a bit worried about overdoing it straight up.



Nathan Bendeich
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Ideally in a paddock that has no attached pens with rearers in them . She will Behave more focussed and less excited .

When u go in paddock walk her on lead for 10 min first till she empties both times , walk another 5 min after that , its after she empties that she will want to fly off . If u walk another 5 min after it she will think she is just on a walk and remain calm . As your still walking take the lead off as apposed to standing still and doing it and making a thing of it .

They are programmed to cut loose when the lead comes off standing still . Taking it off while still walking she wont recognise the moment of chase time as much .

As a back up if she still loses her mind and looks like over doing it , have one of the toys she has been mothering under your shirt ready to pull out when shes showing off running around you , she will recall to you instantly , but keep walking around off the lead and dont give it to her , put it back under your shirt and she should stay close by .

When you put lead back on and you have control of her , drop the toy on the ground and let her carry it back to kennel .

She should be as happy as a pig , remember she hasnt run full tilt for 12 weeks and is in milk slightly , she only needs to do ONE dash and shes done , its NOT a 10 min free gallop where she does 4-5 runs and goes back into kennels throffing at the mouth !

You are after just a heavy pant for first 2 weeks .

Give her rub downs over her back ,shoulders wrist and above hock areas after lead work on the other days for first 2 weeks so u can start week 3 with no niggles .
She will be very tight and sensitive , you are after the result of running your hands over her and she shouldnt flinch anywhere .

It takes 5 min to run your hands over her , when she doesnt flinch anymore you have a sound Bitch

Cheers good luck

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