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Do you have questions regarding the health of your greyhound? Do you need tips what you should feed your dog?
Or do you need advice in curing an injury?

saryin laser

Ann Groom
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11 Nov 2006 13:52


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does anyone know how to work one of these contraptions i was given it but has no instructions got all the attachments but havent got a clue how long to give treatment for sandburn and tendon please help


Helen Kiely
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Ann the treatment time is 5 mins

all trhe best
Yvonne



Werner Scholz
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11 Nov 2006 16:55


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Hello Ann,

here are the instructions from the operating manual for the Sayrin Laser

Sand Burns:
time - 10 mins
application - 660nm
frequency - 635 Hz

Treat twice a day, continuing unti clear.
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Tendon Injury - mild case:
time - 6 mins
application - 950nm
frequency - 19Hz 3 treatments, 635Hz 3 treatments, 4.8k until clear

Treatment should be 12 to 24 hours apart - for 6-8 treatments.
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Tendon Injury - chronic case:
Treatment may be required for a considerable period if severe. If a swelling ia observed when the dog is brought back, then treatment was terminated too early.

time - 10 mins
application - 950nm
frequency - 4.8k

Treatment should be 12 hours apart for 2 days, then 24 hours apart. Minimum of 12 treatment and 3 to 4 month if very severe.
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I'm using a Sayrin Laser for my own and know what I'm talking about.

//Werner


Ann Groom
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13 Nov 2006 17:48


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thanks for that werner am i being stupid? but do you hold the laser on to the dog or what distance do you hold it away thanks ann



Werner Scholz
Germany
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14 Nov 2006 08:32


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Ann,

skin contact is necessary when treating, and if required, the probe can be held in a static position. However, when treating cuts and wounds it is advisable to hold the probe approximately 1cm away from the tissue (the probe with the five visible-red diodes is suitable for such treatments)

Don't use any contactgel or cremes on the dog whilst using the laser. This will demage the laserdiodes.

Points to note:
Reaction to Infra-Stim may not be noticed until several hours after treatment. There may be a slight temperature rise during treatment, but this will not affect the greyhound.

There may be what is termed a 'reactive phase' where the injury may appear to worsen, especially in chronic conditions. This is quite normal.

Do not treat viral infections and pregnant animals.

The greyhound should not be rushed back.

Good luck.

//Werner


Ann Groom
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14 Nov 2006 16:52


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werner your a star i now feel confident enough to use it thanks for your help ann


Murray Gardner
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21 Nov 2006 03:12


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HI WERNER
IM FROM AUSTRALIA AN WAS WONDERING IF I COULD USE MY LASER FOR ACCUPUNTURE POINTS AN HOW LONG DO Y TREAT THEM.MY LASER IS A 3B 300 MWS AN HAS A RANGE FOM 1 TO 24 JOULES AS TREATMENT FOR HUMANS.MURRAY



Werner Scholz
Germany
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21 Nov 2006 10:17


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Hi Murray,

I'm sorry, but I dont know that type of machine you are using.
There are too much on the market.

I use my Sayrin Laser aswell to acupuncture my dogs.
For example I take the acupuncture points for pre-race tone-up and treat the dog 24hours before his race with a frequency of 635Hz for 10 seconds each point.

I hope this will help.

//Werner


Murray Gardner
Australia
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26 Nov 2006 23:16


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thanks WERNER
THINK IVE GOT IT WORKED OUT DO Y USE THE GREYHOUND ACUPUNCTURE BOOK BY DR DAVID GILCHRIST? AN IF SO DO Y FIND AN IMPROVEMENT IN THE PERFORMANCE TREATMENT?IN MY BOOK THE POINTS ARE AS FOLLOWS BL23,ST36,GB34,BL40,BL67,BL13,BL15,CV6.IT ALSO SAYS THAT DO NOT GIVE 48HRS PRERACE WILL DEPRESS PERFORMANCE IT NEEDS 50-60HRS TO WORK FOR BOUNCE BACK.IF Y HAVE A DIFFERENT BOOK I WOULD LIKE TO NO WHERE I COULD GET ONE THANKS WERNER. MURRAY:).



Werner Scholz
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Hello Murray,

I only use the manual I've got with the Sayrin Laser unit.
The markings of the points are different to that markings you wrote, but I guess we are talking about the same points.

I had a phonecall the other day with my physio, who is also building the units, and he told me for his experience the pre race tone up points are working on 8 from 10 dogs!! ( 8 points 24hours before ).

For my own dogs, 2 runners only, I can say that they are more consitent in trapping since I use the laser before racing.

Good luck

//Werner



Werner Scholz
Germany
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11 Feb 2007 10:06


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Treatment for muscle injuries:

time - 10 mins
application - 950 nm
frequency - 635 Hz, on improvement increase to 4.8k

Treatments should be 12 to 24 hours apart. Continue until clear

//Werner


Paul Campbell
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22 Jun 2012 18:14


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could anyone let me know where I could get a sayrin laser repaired please


Craig Blackbird
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22 Jun 2012 18:43


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Yes could someone also advise we're I could obtain one? Cheers


Paul Campbell
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22 Jun 2012 20:48


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anyone


Craig Blackbird
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23 Jun 2012 17:15


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Anyone know where I can buy one then?


John Wood
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Werner Scholz wrote:

Treatment for muscle injuries:

time - 10 mins
application - 950 nm
frequency - 635 Hz, on improvement increase to 4.8k

Treatments should be 12 to 24 hours apart. Continue until clear

HI WERNER IS THERE ANY CHANCE YOU COULD PUT A COPY DIAGRAM OF THE ACCUPUNTURE POINTS YOU USE TO TONE GREYHOUND UP THANKS IN ADVANCE JOHN WOOD
//Werner






Jack Ogilvie
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Craig.,you can get one of my lasers that treat you dog in less than 20 seconds. These lasers are far superior to Led red light lasers like the sarin unit.visi EXTERNAL LINK .Go to top of opening page click on lasers..we send overseas.
Cheers Jack.

Reply to info@ greyhoundpp.com.au


Glen Rafferty
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05 Apr 2021 12:00


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Jack Ogilvie wrote:

Craig.,you can get one of my lasers that treat you dog in less than 20 seconds. These lasers are far superior to Led red light lasers like the sarin unit.visi EXTERNAL LINK .Go to top of opening page click on lasers..we send overseas.
Cheers Jack.

Reply to info@ greyhoundpp.com.au

Have you seen one of the Sayrin lasers Jack because my guess is no. They`re different class to anything you have for sale and to say they`re LED red light lasers reinforces my guess.
They offer exactly the same yours do and a lot more.

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