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Jack Ogilvie Australia (Verified User) Posts 15483 Dogs 0 / Races 1 04 Dec 2010 03:23
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Are you a Trainer in Australia with a cramping dog..i need 6 independent Trainers that i do not know to assist in completion of a new product..All tests have been completed Clinical, Trainers i know. but need 6 others(independant .The product is an electrolyte replacer with No sodium citrate on Bicarbonate. Can you please contact me .@ [email protected] I repeat you can't know me or used my products before. All products will be supplied to you FOC.
Stephen Chambers Australia (Verified User) Posts 21135 Dogs 3 / Races 0 04 Dec 2010 03:48
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if its as good as the other product jack it will be ok best of luck m8 cheers chub.
Jack Ogilvie Australia (Verified User) Posts 15483 Dogs 0 / Races 1 04 Dec 2010 04:16
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Thanks Chub.. I know its cold in Tassy send me your Adress again ..
3 left.
Carole Brown Australia (Verified User) Posts 32355 Dogs 185 / Races 2 04 Dec 2010 04:46
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Jack, I've got one for you. I will email you details of the fellow.
Jack Ogilvie Australia (Verified User) Posts 15483 Dogs 0 / Races 1 04 Dec 2010 05:40
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Thank Carole, Contacted Peter He iis no 5 Ashley F is 6 .Thanks guys. Ashley Can you please send me your ph number. Cheers Jack.
Jack Ogilvie Australia (Verified User) Posts 15483 Dogs 0 / Races 1 04 Dec 2010 05:44
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Jack Ogilvie Australia (Verified User) Posts 15483 Dogs 0 / Races 1 04 Dec 2010 05:46
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Thanks Guys ..No more please .Had 9 in a very short time..
Carole Brown Australia (Verified User) Posts 32355 Dogs 185 / Races 2 04 Dec 2010 05:48
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Thanks, Jack. There's probably plenty more having cramping troubles, too.
Carole Brown Australia (Verified User) Posts 32355 Dogs 185 / Races 2 04 Dec 2010 07:01
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Have had many long chats with him, Jack. He has had some blood problems, too.
Jack Ogilvie Australia (Verified User) Posts 15483 Dogs 0 / Races 1 04 Dec 2010 08:13
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Carole,his PH would also be low.what was his pcv and Haemoglobin.. Hct, and Lymph . Also do you know the Bio chemistry.. Sodium, potassium, chloride.. Creatine if you have can you send through to me cheers jack.
Jack Ogilvie Australia (Verified User) Posts 15483 Dogs 0 / Races 1 08 Dec 2010 03:13
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To those Trainers selected .I have posted PRODUCTS out Today .The rain has caused delay ..
Mark Glennerster United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 3208 Dogs 0 / Races 0 08 Dec 2010 09:32
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Jack,
Is Steve in the UK getting any to try?
Jack Ogilvie Australia (Verified User) Posts 15483 Dogs 0 / Races 1 08 Dec 2010 09:40
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Hi Mark i hope he will get bucket loads.Not that they will need a great deal at the moment.
Jack Ogilvie Australia (Verified User) Posts 15483 Dogs 0 / Races 1 29 Dec 2023 08:31
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Here is the kennel testing we did go dogs in 9 different kennels. we had great results, but decided not to go ahead with our products because of such a bad name other products had. These products had Sodium citrate in them. No amount of sodium citrate is safe for your dog.
Jack Ogilvie Australia (Verified User) Posts 15483 Dogs 0 / Races 1 29 Dec 2023 08:54
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This thread and posts go back to 2010.
Peter Bryce Australia (Verified User) Posts 706 Dogs 0 / Races 0 29 Dec 2023 23:17
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Jack tp state no amount of Sodium Citrate is safe is misleading, The major issue with Cramping is unbalanced Diet. Excess Sodium Chloride in Kibble. The Trainers who have changed to the Greyhound diet I recommend and use a Potassium Citrate based Kidney Flush resolve their Cramping issues instantly
Jack Ogilvie Australia (Verified User) Posts 15483 Dogs 0 / Races 1 30 Dec 2023 01:04
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Ok show me your kennel tests & vet tests of your product. Q why did the manufacturers of Recharge take sodium citrate out of their product. As I have stated before only fools would us products with SC in it.you might fool some people on here Not me.I don't want to engage with you.End of story.
Peter Bryce Australia (Verified User) Posts 706 Dogs 0 / Races 0 30 Dec 2023 01:55
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Jack below is a list of foods that contain Sodium Citrate
1. It is found in gelatin mix, ice-cream, jams, sweets, milk powder, processed cheeses, carbonated beverages, and wine. Sodium Citrate is also used as an emulsifier for oils in the cheesemaking process. Sodium citrate allows cheese to melt without becoming greasy.
2. What natural foods have sodium citrate? Acid, flavoring, chelating agent: Ice cream, sherbet, fruit drink, candy, carbonated beverages, instant potatoes. Citric acid is versatile, widely used, cheap, and safe. It is an important metabolite in virtually all living organisms and is especially abundant naturally in citrus fruits and berries.
3. What does sodium citrate do to your body? SODIUM CITRATE; CITRIC ACID (SOE dee um SIT rate; SIT rik AS id) prevents and treats high acid levels in your body. It may also be used to help prevent gout or kidney stones, conditions caused by high uric acid levels. It works by decreasing the amount of acid in your body.
Jack Ogilvie Australia (Verified User) Posts 15483 Dogs 0 / Races 1 30 Dec 2023 04:07
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Put up your testing blood profile, kennel and DNA testing. There is a heap of posts on here about dogs who cramped, had acidosis, and struggled to get 350m, all because of products that had Sodium citrate. Carole Brown did hundreds of blood tests on dogs that had suffered cramps, dehydration, and acidosis, Kidney issues. Guess what all these dogs were on products that contained Sodium citrate. Yes. Surely you did testing or did you?
Peter Bryce Australia (Verified User) Posts 706 Dogs 0 / Races 0 30 Dec 2023 08:18
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Jack a vast number of Trainers with Greyhounds cramping were supplementing Neutradex, A product for Horses That product was used by many many Greyhound Trainers to the extent Virbac put a label on it for Greyhounds. Sodium Acid Citrate is great for Horses as a Diuretic. Potassium Citrate is the Diuretic for Greyhounds. Dr Jim Gannon and Ross Mitchell brought out a product called AKM Alkanalising Kidney Mixture by Action Chemicals. I was responsible for Rapidvite purchasing the Action Brand several years ago. Rapidvite / Sykes Vet International sell the product today. It is not Sodium Citrate that is the issue The issue is using a product with high levels of Sodium Citrate (meant for Horses).
However your point was that it shoulnt be in any Greyhound product. Sodium Citrate is added to products for its Diuretic benefits, and as such it will be added in very small ratio. This small level will not be detrimental to Greyhounds
Given that Ice Cream contains Sodium Citrate it will be a brave or silly Trainer who decides to withdraw the Ice Cream treat from winning Greyhounds because it contains Sodium Citrate.
Do you have questions regarding the health of your greyhound? Do you need tips what you should feed your dog?
