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Claire Needham Australia (Verified User) Posts 89 Dogs 4 / Races 0 07 Jan 2011 20:51
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I have a terrible flea problem at the moment. Last year Frontline spray was working. This year I used Advantage on the greyhounds (working well so far) and Frontline spray on the Italian Greyhounds as there are too many of them to use advantage. The frontline worked for a week and now they are covered on fleas again. I am about to go to Bunnings and get some confidor and give this a try. Have read dilution is 1ml confidor to 2ml water. Then apply 1ml of the mix to a greyhound. How much would be a suitable amount for an IG given they weigh 5-7kg. ?
Thanks
Mark Schlegel Australia (Verified User) Posts 3168 Dogs 9 / Races 5 07 Jan 2011 20:58
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50/50 seems to be the going ratio. Make sure you get the Confidor concentrate (8ml squeeze tabs).
Personally I had no luck with Confidor as it didn't seem to absorb well into the skin. In fact, the dogs usually shake it off as soon as you let them go.
Avenge Sheep drench has the same active ingredient as Confidor but also has a carrier agent included to help facilitate absorption.
I put 3ml on neck and 3ml on base of tail. Haven't seen a flea since....
With Confidor I believe you will need 2mm between the shoulder blades....?
Julie Grindley Australia (Verified User) Posts 679 Dogs 39 / Races 0 07 Jan 2011 21:03
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I mix confidor with lavender oil,2ml confidor to 1 ml lavender oil(i mix about 10ml confidor to 5ml lavender in a small bottle and shake it up then dispence with a syringe) I use 3mls on the greys,and 1ml on my 2 jack russels,(about 6kgs)seems to absorb easier with the oils mixed with it.(you can use other oils,but the lavender smells nice to)
Claire Needham Australia (Verified User) Posts 89 Dogs 4 / Races 0 07 Jan 2011 21:30
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I like the sound of that Julie. Will give it a go. If nothing else they will smell good If it doesnt work I will track down some Avenge.
Ryan Vanderwert Australia (Verified User) Posts 1801 Dogs 6 / Races 0 07 Jan 2011 22:20
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Claire it's important you get the mix right for it to work properly. I've even applied the concentrate without water but it doesn't work well.
The mix I've found works well with greys is 1ml C ==> 2mls water. Apply down their back in 3 places. Between the shoulder blades, middle of their back and between pin bones.
I also use the same dosage on a 12kg house dog.
Dont know that I'd be game to use the same dosage on small pups though.
Then I put a few mls in a 1 litre spray bottle, mix with water (keep it fairly cloudy), and spray the kennel area.
Result is haven't had fleas for last 6 mths and it's now summer, and still haven't given them another dose.
I bought I think a 200ml bottle of the concentrate(thx Trev), and I'd still have 185ml left. I do only have 5 dogs at a time though.
Peter Capper Australia (Verified User) Posts 291 Dogs 5 / Races 2 08 Jan 2011 00:31
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I used Confidor on my dogs for the first time last month.Same method and mix as Ryan has stated.Flea problem solved within a day or two.
Keith Lloyd Australia (Verified User) Posts 1326 Dogs 54 / Races 3 08 Jan 2011 01:01
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If I have an infestation of flea's, I put 1.25 ml, thats one and a quarter mil, of confidor into an old cup and put about 20 ml of water in the cup. Stir it well then put the whole lot on the dog, rubbing it into the ribcage, along the back, around the neck and inside and outside the back legs. Instant death to the fleas and no fleas for a long time. You can use any amount of water (or oil) you wish but you must get 1 1/4 ml of confidor on to each dog for it to be effective. Straight confidor with no water (or oil) is very ineffective.
Trevor Webb Australia (Verified User) Posts 371 Dogs 1 / Races 0 08 Jan 2011 01:37
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Yes and the other thing is do not try to mix it with Metho of the like as it changes for and becomes like a strand of latex
We are finding it really effective if appiled as the guys ahve indicated, I also know those that use it in their hydrobaths, similar dilution as the spray RV indicated
If anyone wants any [email protected] One thing I have found is that I cannot have bare hands as it makes me feel quite ill that evening after I use it.......so just be careful
TW
Paul Matthews Australia (Verified User) Posts 1854 Dogs 73 / Races 22 08 Jan 2011 07:12
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Is spectrum 200cs the same as confidor. Thanks paul
Megan Lavis Australia (Verified User) Posts 423 Dogs 9 / Races 33 08 Jan 2011 07:24
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Yes Paul. It is the same. Both have 200g/L Imidacloprid.
Allen Fitzsimmons Australia (Verified User) Posts 7 Dogs 3 / Races 0 08 Jan 2011 20:19
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Hi Guys Bayer make a sheep product called Avenge, same active constituent If you use 5 mls / 30 kilos, 2 1/2 / 15 etc. No mixing no fuss and it works well and works out cheeper Hope this helps Cheers Allen
Once you get clear of fleas try rubbing a little Tea Tree Oil (use a disposable rubber glove) on their chest and on neck at back of their head. The smell of the oil will help to keep the fleas away.
Claire Needham Australia (Verified User) Posts 89 Dogs 4 / Races 0 08 Jan 2011 22:31
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I bought the confidor yesterday and have been doing a little reseach as well. Confidor is 200g/l of Imidacloprid Advantage is 100g/l
Dogs 25kg and over get 4ml advantage Dogs 4-10kg get 1ml advantage
Is the 200g/l in confidor as a concentrate or once it is mixed at the suggested rate of 1:2 ? And if so how much would you put on a small dog ? OR would you dilute it 1:4 to get the same rate as advantage (assuming the 200g/l is the mixed rate) and use the same dosage as advantage ?
I was never good at maths so hoping someone else can figure this out for me.
Rob Tyler Australia (Verified User) Posts 5176 Dogs 64 / Races 113 08 Jan 2011 22:41
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Just to confuse the issue even more, the product I use is called NUPRID..200g/l Imidacloprid....same as Confidor etc.
Keith Lloyd Australia (Verified User) Posts 1326 Dogs 54 / Races 3 08 Jan 2011 23:27
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Claire, Confidor is 200g/l and is still 200g/l even if you put it in a litre of water. If you mix a litre of confidor with a litre of water, the MIXTURE is then 100g/l of mix.
Just follow the following:- You can use any amount of water (or oil) you wish but you must get 1 1/4 ml of confidor on to each dog for it to be effective.
I put the same amount on all dogs, small or big. Works for me.
Paul Matthews Australia (Verified User) Posts 1854 Dogs 73 / Races 22 09 Jan 2011 00:25
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Hi all if it helps i brought the spectrum 200 for $69 at mega merch in ballarat i litre Cheers
Peter Capper Australia (Verified User) Posts 291 Dogs 5 / Races 2 09 Jan 2011 00:47
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Got yourself a bargain there Paul
Peter Capper Australia (Verified User) Posts 291 Dogs 5 / Races 2 09 Jan 2011 00:53
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I'd be wary of using 1ml of confidor concentrate mixed with 2mls of water on a small dog. I'd use less than one ml confidor on the mix when dosing a small dog weighing around 10 kg or so.
Trevor Webb Australia (Verified User) Posts 371 Dogs 1 / Races 0 09 Jan 2011 01:37
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You are right Peter the equivalent dose of Confidor/Spectrum in Advantage is 2ml......ie. 2ml= a + 25kg dose of Advantage If you look at the other dose rates just work back for the lower body weight
If you work on 2ml per 20 kgs it is pretty reliable, same as with the drench we use First Mectin........5ml per 20kgs.
The one thing I try to make sure it is rubbed into close contact with the skin before they shake and they are not dirty as it binds up in the coat dust.
TW
Mark Schlegel Australia (Verified User) Posts 3168 Dogs 9 / Races 5 09 Jan 2011 06:24
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Trevor Webb wrote:
If you work on 2ml per 20 kgs it is pretty reliable, same as with the drench we use First Mectin........5ml per 20kgs.
The one thing I try to make sure it is rubbed into close contact with the skin before they shake and they are not dirty as it binds up in the coat dust.
TW
Trevor,
According to CRT, FirstMectin is a drench for the......
"Treatment and control of all major gastrointestinal roundworms in sheep. An aid in controlling selenium deficiencies in sheep."
It doesn't say anything about treating external parasites (fleas). Am I misunderstanding what you use it for?
I actually tried an Abamectin based drench a couple of years ago when I had a heavy flea infestation. I'm not sure if it killed any internal parasites but it certainly didn't get rid of the fleas!
That's when I discovered Avenge Sheep Drench. Same ingredient as Confidor but no mixing needed and it has a carrier agent so I found it worked a lot better....
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