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James Mulvihill United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 55 Dogs 0 / Races 0 08 Jan 2015 22:42
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Patrick, i would not put money on it, but I remember Floyd Amphlett writing years back, that the pups were reared at the nursing home she owned and was matron of at welldrake, in Yorkshire, she was the sister of Batt O' Keefe, on the night of the final she gave the trainer, Matt O' Donnell a letter not to be opened until after the final, that stated that win or lose that, Matt O' Donnell was to be the new owner.
Patrick Kilduff Ireland (Verified User) Posts 996 Dogs 28 / Races 4 08 Jan 2015 23:02
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Similar to yourself James I am not 100% sure, the only reason I said it, was at the time of Rockets fame I too had dealings with Peggy and was sure at the time I had commented on seen Rocket & Spirit prior to commencement of schooling and being informed of whom they were, having said that they could indeed have arrived late in their puppyhood....
I remember the letter to Matt at the time being spoken of throughout the entire doggy community...
Peter Crawford Ireland (Verified User) Posts 3169 Dogs 95 / Races 0 09 Jan 2015 06:28
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Happy days i just seen these did ok last nite
Just wrong with billy
It was between billy and rocket and i also think that manx treasure was born in england some were thats was my picks but went with billy
As meatloaf would say 2 out off 3 aint bad lol
Anthony Nash United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 139 Dogs 0 / Races 4 09 Jan 2015 14:42
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Who am I? Apart from Camira Flash, what other greyhound won the English Derby after finishing fourth in a heat only to go into the next round after the third place greyhound was disq for fighting.
Peter Crawford Ireland (Verified User) Posts 3169 Dogs 95 / Races 0 09 Jan 2015 15:12
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Loyal honcho win after finishing 4th in first round but 3rd didnt fight
Anthony Nash United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 139 Dogs 0 / Races 4 09 Jan 2015 15:30
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Peter Crawford wrote:
Loyal honcho win after finishing 4th in first round but 3rd didnt fight
The race I'm thinking of was pre Camira Flash
James Mulvihill United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 55 Dogs 0 / Races 0 09 Jan 2015 18:51
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Patrick, i was on a conference call today, with Jonathan Kay ( racing post ) Bob Gilling ( British Breeders Forum ) Floyd Amphelett ( Greyhound Star ) discussing the best British litter of the year award, and the best British Bred Dog of the year award,the Windy Millar x Hawks Dutchess litter was chosen, Take The Crown, was voted best British Bred. I asked Floyd about Batties Rocket, he said he was whelped just outside York, but can not remember at what age the litter went to Ireland to reared and schooled.
Peter, you said that you thought that, Manx Treasure was British Bred, he was bred by Mr. John Guilford, whose address was given as Ballakaighen, Stud farm, Isle Of Man, but I would guess that he was whelped at the Kennels of Micky O' Sullivan, where his sire, Greenpark Fox stood at stud, Mr. Guilford was owner of both Greenpark Fox and Slaneyside Hare.
Charlie, I was also on Tapwatcher, at 14/1, it seems that he chose the wrong night to make a hash of the start, He won, a 1st round qualifier, 28-65 ( 8-13f ) 1st round proper 29-14 ( 8/11f ) 2nd round proper 28-93 ( 2-1f ) 3rd round proper 28-72 ( 11-10f ) beat Signal Spark 8/1 semi-final 28-93 ( 4-7f ) beat Slaneyside Speed 8-1 He also won a heat of the Pall Mall at Harringay
Charlie Borg Ireland (Verified User) Posts 2016 Dogs 0 / Races 0 09 Jan 2015 20:27
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james mulvihill wrote:
Patrick, i was on a conference call today, with Jonathan Kay ( racing post ) Bob Gilling ( British Breeders Forum ) Floyd Amphelett ( Greyhound Star ) discussing the best British litter of the year award, and the best British Bred Dog of the year award,the Windy Millar x Hawks Dutchess litter was chosen, Take The Crown, was voted best British Bred. I asked Floyd about Batties Rocket, he said he was whelped just outside York, but can not remember at what age the litter went to Ireland to reared and schooled.
Peter, you said that you thought that, Manx Treasure was British Bred, he was bred by Mr. John Guilford, whose address was given as Ballakaighen, Stud farm, Isle Of Man, but I would guess that he was whelped at the Kennels of Micky O' Sullivan, where his sire, Greenpark Fox stood at stud, Mr. Guilford was owner of both Greenpark Fox and Slaneyside Hare.
Charlie, I was also on Tapwatcher, at 14/1, it seems that he chose the wrong night to make a hash of the start, He won, a 1st round qualifier, 28-65 ( 8-13f ) 1st round proper 29-14 ( 8/11f ) 2nd round proper 28-93 ( 2-1f ) 3rd round proper 28-72 ( 11-10f ) beat Signal Spark 8/1 semi-final 28-93 ( 4-7f ) beat Slaneyside Speed 8-1 He also won a heat of the Pall Mall at Harringay
Think I was there for most of them James from the 2nd round onwards for sure
Peter Crawford Ireland (Verified User) Posts 3169 Dogs 95 / Races 0 10 Jan 2015 11:58
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Anthony Nash wrote:
Who am I? Apart from Camira Flash, what other greyhound won the English Derby after finishing fourth in a heat only to go into the next round after the third place greyhound was disq for fighting.
Looks like you have stumped us
Maureen Day United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 1246 Dogs 4 / Races 4 10 Jan 2015 15:33
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Anthony Nash wrote:
Who am I? Apart from Camira Flash, what other greyhound won the English Derby after finishing fourth in a heat only to go into the next round after the third place greyhound was disq for fighting.
Are you referring to Future Cutlet in 1933?
Anthony Nash United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 139 Dogs 0 / Races 4 10 Jan 2015 16:28
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Peter Crawford wrote:
Anthony Nash wrote:
Who am I? Apart from Camira Flash, what other greyhound won the English Derby after finishing fourth in a heat only to go into the next round after the third place greyhound was disq for fighting.
Looks like you have stumped us
G.R.Archduke (1940) finish fourth in the second round when Highland rum who finished third was disq. G.R.Archduke went on to win his semi before the final.
Peter Crawford Ireland (Verified User) Posts 3169 Dogs 95 / Races 0 10 Jan 2015 16:48
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Good man anthony you had me stumped good question
Michael Murphy Ireland (Verified User) Posts 4723 Dogs 1673 / Races 1 10 Jan 2015 17:20
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Another one for you guys and girls . I whelped a White City Derby winner as did my daughter?
Mugs.
Peter Crawford Ireland (Verified User) Posts 3169 Dogs 95 / Races 0 10 Jan 2015 18:13
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michael murphy wrote:
Another one for you guys and girls . I whelped a White City Derby winner as did my daughter?
Mugs.
Parrein had greta rennee win derby 1935
Also had gay revels who had g r archduke 1940
Michael Murphy Ireland (Verified User) Posts 4723 Dogs 1673 / Races 1 10 Jan 2015 18:26
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Correct Peter but I had in mind something around 30 years later.
Mugs.
Peter Crawford Ireland (Verified User) Posts 3169 Dogs 95 / Races 0 10 Jan 2015 18:52
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Ok well witching dancer had Mill bush pride 1959
And had witching grand and grand had supreme witch that had tric trac 1967
That would make it grand daughter
But the grand duchess had the grand canal derby winner 1962
And bunclody queen who had hack up chieftain 1964
Michael Murphy Ireland (Verified User) Posts 4723 Dogs 1673 / Races 1 10 Jan 2015 19:42
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Very good Peter but it is mother and great grand mother there IMO. I had in mind the Grand Duchess. The Grand Canal and Hack Up Chieftain.
Thanks Mugs.
Peter Crawford Ireland (Verified User) Posts 3169 Dogs 95 / Races 0 10 Jan 2015 20:04
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Lol come on folks any more for use
Peter Crawford Ireland (Verified User) Posts 3169 Dogs 95 / Races 0 10 Jan 2015 20:29
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Rite heres a good 1 well i think so anyway
Who am i
I whelped 2bitch in 2differant litters
1 off my daughters produced the sire off a derby winner
My other daughter produced the dam off the same derby winner
And from a completely differant litter my other daughter produced a derby winner
Peter Crawford Ireland (Verified User) Posts 3169 Dogs 95 / Races 0 11 Jan 2015 07:48