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he's enjoying the easiest ride to the top of the Stud ranks due to serving the best bitches in Australia which Brett Lee didn't get early in his Stud career
I'm not commenting on the merits of the sires in question but the statement I have quoted above is false. Perhaps you should go and actually look at the merits of the first 20-30 bitches Brett Lee served also. He too (and may I say deservedly) got to serve some outstanding types at the start of his career.
I 100% agree with Wade on this one
Brett Lee got a great start to his career as well.
He also produced very smart dogs from the get-go and went on with it from there to be a world breed-shaper
Like most sires once you work out the best nicks/crosses they are all capable of punching out class dogs
With Fernando, the nicks are emerging with the first crop of 88 bitches
He has done the job from these bitches and has achieved multi-distance Group and city winners
His pups may need some work and shaping when they are young but there is no doubt the talent is there in their genes.
Fernando will end up the same as Brett Lee...its a shame you have to mortgage the house to get a vial
Of the first 100 bitches that Brett Lee served ... 71 of them were city winners ... that's a pretty good start
With Token Prince it was around 50%, which still isn't bad
I hear that Fernando is going to $7k as of first of May .... ??
Terry Jordan Australia (Verified User) Posts 6013 Dogs 0 / Races 0 23 Apr 2018 01:52
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Geoff Collins wrote:
Of the first 100 bitches that Brett Lee served ... 71 of them were city winners ... that's a pretty good start
With Token Prince it was around 50%, which still isn't bad
I hear that Fernando is going to $7k as of first of May .... ??
This will sort the chaff from the wheat! Only attract the Best! Why not? I'd gladly pay to achieve the best results for my mating. $7K is only two City Wins! with change.
Ashley Paul Craven Australia (Verified User) Posts 236 Dogs 0 / Races 0 14 Oct 2020 06:14
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Out of curiosity what's the wait on a Fernando Bale vial?
thanks in advance
Rob Frendo Australia (Verified User) Posts 322 Dogs 1 / Races 0 14 Oct 2020 06:36
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Ive got a good feeling this bloke will make it as a sire.
Paul Dicks Australia (Verified User) Posts 10281 Dogs 120 / Races 252 14 Oct 2020 08:56
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He's worth every cent of his stud fee. Not only does he add $$$ to the value of pups, he also produces quality progeny. Best value sire in tbe country IMHO
Sam Watson Australia (Verified User) Posts 315 Dogs 0 / Races 0 14 Oct 2020 22:34
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Ashley Paul Craven wrote:
Out of curiosity what's the wait on a Fernando Bale vial?
thanks in advance
No wait on his straws anymore I don't think. If bitch on season you can get 1 straight away
Ashley Paul Craven Australia (Verified User) Posts 236 Dogs 0 / Races 0 14 Oct 2020 23:07
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Thanks Sam
Paul Dicks Australia (Verified User) Posts 10281 Dogs 120 / Races 252 05 Nov 2020 10:18
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Paul Dicks wrote:
He's worth every cent of his stud fee. Not only does he add $$$ to the value of pups, he also produces quality progeny. Best value sire in tbe country IMHO
He has 7 of the finalist in this years Ipswich Cup. Absolutely incredible
Give me "Inside the Square" anytime
Raymond Peter Fewings Australia (Verified User) Posts 248 Dogs 0 / Races 0 05 Nov 2020 20:30
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Fly for Trix 29.45 Angle Park last night. At $6,600 Fernando best value ever when compared with prices asked for some others.
Richard Gray Australia (Verified User) Posts 2231 Dogs 11 / Races 9 06 Nov 2020 06:52
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would be nice if someone could work out % of pups whelped to Fernando in past 18 months? (not knocking him at all, just working out numbers would be interesting)
Mark Staines Australia (Verified User) Posts 4497 Dogs 70 / Races 14 06 Nov 2020 07:17
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Raymond Peter Fewings wrote:
Fly for Trix 29.45 Angle Park last night. At $6,600 Fernando best value ever when compared with prices asked for some others.
And Weblec Rose his Mother was a very fast Bitch who ran 29.24 at Sandown and has produced winners to 3 Sires !!!!!!
Steven Martin Australia (Verified User) Posts 7681 Dogs 180 / Races 66 06 Nov 2020 07:21
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Year - Litters - % 2019 -- 198 -- 10.76% of all litters whelped annually are FB. 2018 -- 244 -- 14.40% of all litters whelped annually are FB.
Over those 2 years combined, 1 out of every 8 litters whelped are FB with around to 3 millions in stud fees collected, so far.
Paul Dicks Australia (Verified User) Posts 10281 Dogs 120 / Races 252 06 Nov 2020 09:52
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Having such huge numbers and still being able to sustain incredibly high winning and group percentages only reinforces his sheer brilliance.
Graham Moscow Australia (Verified User) Posts 1186 Dogs 0 / Races 0 06 Nov 2020 19:48
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Paul Dicks wrote:
Having such huge numbers and still being able to sustain incredibly high winning and group percentages only reinforces his sheer brilliance.
FB thrown many top notchers and will continue to do so, however he still throws his share of soft to non chasers, Also the testicles issue is another FB dark cloud, how many of his top male offspring have testicle deformities ? Is FB sons at stud Pups (offspring) having testicle deformities. I noticed his top 100 offspring 72 are male only 28 bitches. In Future many more FB Sons going to stud. I also noticed majority of his bitches are 24-26 kg most weight less then theIr dam. Will his bitches throw big litters ? Yes FB number one but carrying some dark clouds.
Paul Dicks Australia (Verified User) Posts 10281 Dogs 120 / Races 252 06 Nov 2020 22:45
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Dark Cloud?
Monorchism, Undescended Testicles and Male Infertility has been around well before FB wentvto stud. It's a fault in the breed not just him.
I checked the top sires of the last 2 decades and the vast majority have around 70% male and 30% female top offspring.
Small bitches don't always produce small progeny. We bred with this little rat CLICK HERE and she produced big litters and great sized progeny.
Every sire produces ordinary progeny and it's easy to find fault, but on the whole I'd say FB is going sensationally not matter what the tall poppy choppers say.
Graham Moscow Australia (Verified User) Posts 1186 Dogs 0 / Races 0 06 Nov 2020 23:02
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Paul Dicks wrote:
Dark Cloud?
Monorchism, Undescended Testicles and Male Infertility has been around well before FB wentvto stud. It's a fault in the breed not just him.
I checked the top sires of the last 2 decades and the vast majority have around 70% male and 30% female top offspring.
Small bitches don't always produce small progeny. We bred with this little rat CLICK HERE and she produced big litters and great sized progeny.
Every sire produces ordinary progeny and it's easy to find fault, but on the whole I'd say FB is going sensationally not matter what the tall poppy choppers say.
Pleased we agree FB is a sensational Sire but not perfection Fabregas 39/100 Checkout Temlee CLICK HERE Yes Paul testicle deformities go way back, I first recall Tangaloa being blamed for carrying and passing on recessive gene True or False ?
Steven Martin Australia (Verified User) Posts 7681 Dogs 180 / Races 66 06 Nov 2020 23:31
The older the stats on this site the more flawed they become.
For example CHIEF DINGAAN arguably one of TEMLEE's best doesn't rate a mention in those stat's you've downline GM.
ANd stats towards DOGS will always be favoured due to BITCHES being sidelined between 2 to 4 months most years due to seasonal changes.
FB's results are sensational but they have to be & would want to bl00dy be due to numbers & bitch quality.
Paul Dicks Australia (Verified User) Posts 10281 Dogs 120 / Races 252 14 Dec 2020 06:34
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Without stating the obvious, if you aren't using Fernando Bale as a sire for your brood, you are doing yourself a disservice. I haven't seen a sire so dominant for well over a decade. Every time I scroll through city and group stats his name crops up time and time again. If I see a hot pup or the next big thing inevitably it's a son or daughter of this incredible sire. I'm completely in awe of him. Beautiful to watch. I love the way his progeny like himself have that incredible desire to cross to the lead at the first turn. At $6600 he is the best value sire by the length of the straight.
Steven Martin Australia (Verified User) Posts 7681 Dogs 180 / Races 66 14 Dec 2020 08:18
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Paul Dicks wrote:
Without stating the obvious, if you aren't using Fernando Bale as a sire for your brood, you are doing yourself a disservice. I haven't seen a sire so dominant for well over a decade.
Hi Dixie.
I agree. The dominance regarding the racing progeny of Fernando has been totally overwhelming...but if you look at the overall picture and include the 'Whelping Statistic's" in that sentence.....IT WOULD WANT TO BE.
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