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Ken Bailey Australia (Verified User) Posts 25 Dogs 1 / Races 0 26 Apr 2015 23:28
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Not saying they have to be done on track but using a draw machine similar to Tattslotto with video footage . Im sure people would be happier seeing the numbers coming out than the current system>
I think alot would agree Ken. it used to be done here in SA but they claim it takes too long now, GRV beam theirs on you tube. The biggest problem is grouping of names. Which make the majority of owners and trainers smell a rat in this system. And constant squeeze boxes that most get. Which people are getting raw deals. I don't care what anyone tells me to get 6x6s drawn in a row with a system that I have constantly been told has no memory, doesn't rub with me.And alot have similar stories. It's the lack of info about where this software was devised and track history in fielding races,and vague audits.And most authorities in each state are not accountable to a commissioner or gov dept in their running which could be open slather for corruption to take hold. Tom totally disagrees but we never thought NSW trots and horse racing could, but look at what they un-covered. Dogs aren't exempt
Helen Sayer Australia (Verified User) Posts 10 Dogs 22 / Races 0 27 Apr 2015 04:35
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Terrible system. Same thing is happening here in W.A the same dogs draw the same boxes 4 of my dogs drew box 6 3 weeks in a row the odds of that happening is nearly impossible and another has had 29 starts and never had box 1!!!!!! definitely needs revising
Helen try 6 6s in a row the odds are even higher,could you tell me. In WA are you's getting initials of trainers grouped or surnames. Coz that seems to be the moto. SA tells me WA insisted an audit and that SA have joined in with WA for that audit and WA gov requested a finding of that audit by the end of march, have there been any posts or media releases on it.Coz there's nothing on ours, Maybe a phantom one like this software.
Tom Richards Australia (Verified User) Posts 1003 Dogs 0 / Races 0 30 Apr 2015 03:00
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for another example of how soft/hard ware can fail despite many mths of pre testing, look at the new Apple Watch. It will not work on people whose wrist is tattooed.
EXTERNAL LINK The Oz Chase box draw system needs to be audited, with the guide lines of the audit and the results made public. Without this happening there will continue to be NO FAITH in the box draw system by trainers/punters/owners.
Tom Richards Australia (Verified User) Posts 1003 Dogs 0 / Races 0 30 Apr 2015 22:01
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wenty friday , have a look at the draw re initials of trainers. % of same initials grouped together is way over the odds of random.
Rhys Brookes Australia (Verified User) Posts 59 Dogs 2 / Races 1 30 Apr 2015 23:19
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I was just looking through the three Wenty meetings over the weekend/Monday. Jodie Lord is in 7 races were another trainer also has the first initial J, of them 7 races, 6 of them are boxed next to Jodie. What are the chances of that?
Tom Richards Australia (Verified User) Posts 1003 Dogs 0 / Races 0 01 May 2015 02:06
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rhys, that is what I have put to GRNSW, the occurance of this happening is way, way greater than a random %.
Tom Richards Australia (Verified User) Posts 1003 Dogs 0 / Races 0 05 May 2015 04:21
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check out the double ups of trainers initials at Richmond, 9 May. Have a look at the J's. apart from a couple of doubles there are a couple of triples as well
J appears to be the most common double up. Not sure if there are more J initials than other letters.
Tom Richards Australia (Verified User) Posts 1003 Dogs 0 / Races 0 07 May 2015 03:26
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have a look at race 8 Gosford to night.
Dino Brunato Australia (Verified User) Posts 90 Dogs 2 / Races 31 07 May 2015 15:13
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Tom GRNSW is not going to listen just like SA, I reckon it has to go higher to a Racing Minister or 4 Corners. Queensland Gov has now stepped in there. Vic Gov there. Control needs to be taken away from state authorities and placed to an over see-ing body or person .The so called bug is causing unfair draws, and unfair ratio of boxes drawn, ratios of no box 1 in 30 plus starts for some dogs.The ratio should be 1 in 12 or 13. Go back to balls, live. computers are not the answer to all our prayers,we know that.A computer glitch could leave you penniless.And i'm not going there.
Chris Priestley Australia (Verified User) Posts 61 Dogs 0 / Races 0 13 May 2015 13:36
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Ozchase really turned it on this week at canberra go and have a look at the disgrace just about every race has trainers or letters stuck together
Tom Richards Australia (Verified User) Posts 1003 Dogs 0 / Races 0 13 May 2015 18:54
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J is always at the forefront of trainers getting doubled up together.
Dino Brunato Australia (Verified User) Posts 90 Dogs 2 / Races 31 13 May 2015 21:03
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Tom with all the negative stuff going on in dogs you would reckon they would wanna fix it, BUT NO.Go to media that's all that's left otherwise we are stuck with it for good. I've been to state body, been to GOV, been to opposition all deaf ears last option is MEDIA. We all reckon MEDIA is the worse but where did these stories cause the biggest stir and action MEDIA!!!!
Tom Richards Australia (Verified User) Posts 1003 Dogs 0 / Races 0 13 May 2015 22:59
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Dino, GRNSW has told me my emails have been passed on and an audit, taking a few mths, is underway.
I have asked if the results will be made public.
Chris van Vegchel Australia (Verified User) Posts 443 Dogs 3 / Races 0 14 May 2015 04:48
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Tom, what would be the odds of drawing box 7 then after the race was re-drawn coming up with box 7 again?
Mick Whyte Australia (Verified User) Posts 1109 Dogs 23 / Races 3 14 May 2015 05:24
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My mate has 2 dogs racing and one has drawn 4,4,7,7,7,6. And the other 7,7,7,4,4,7,6,4. Definitely something wrong with the system.
Canberra Racing Club Australia (Verified User) Posts 175 Dogs 8 / Races 0 14 May 2015 06:10
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the same chance of coming up with box 7 in the first place (1 in 8). Your last box doesn't determine the chances of getting a different box at its next start.
Rhys Brookes Australia (Verified User) Posts 59 Dogs 2 / Races 1 14 May 2015 06:36
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mick whyte wrote:
My mate has 2 dogs racing and one has drawn 4,4,7,7,7,6. And the other 7,7,7,4,4,7,6,4. Definitely something wrong with the system.
Mick do you mind me asking what your mates initials are? Just curious as my trainer in his last 11 starts has only drawn the 4 or 7 box
Tom Richards Australia (Verified User) Posts 1003 Dogs 0 / Races 0 14 May 2015 07:08
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rhys , what is your trainers christian name initial?
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