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The English derby cannot be won by any dog possessing true early pace, it is a competition for the staying types. With the ridiculous long run to the pick up the dogs are running 600 plus at full speed. The three runs in a week is almost cruel to a non staying type.
If it were not for the prize money early paced dogs should stay at home. True speed is no longer required what should be the real test of speed like the 100m in athletics is devalued. With the Irish derby a 550 we have no blue ribbon for speed......sad.
Michael de Ward Ireland (Verified User) Posts 2191 Dogs 4 / Races 1 28 Jun 2015 20:35
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100% agree Seamus,i posted something in the same earlier on the derby final 2015 topic... it is a ridicilous long run to the pick-up
David Dunne Ireland (Verified User) Posts 1374 Dogs 108 / Races 26 28 Jun 2015 20:57
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what about rapid ranger
Lynda Bonner United Kingdom (Team Member) Posts 6240 Dogs 77 / Races 15 28 Jun 2015 21:05
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I can't think of the logic behind having the escape so far away. It doesn't seem necessary and it is breaking the hearts of pure speedsters.
Ryan Magill Ireland (Verified User) Posts 471 Dogs 46 / Races 0 28 Jun 2015 21:16
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Seamus McCloskey wrote:
The English derby cannot be won by any dog possessing true early pace, it is a competition for the staying types. With the ridiculous long run to the pick up the dogs are running 600 plus at full speed. The three runs in a week is almost cruel to a non staying type.
If it were not for the prize money early paced dogs should stay at home. True speed is no longer required what should be the real test of speed like the 100m in athletics is devalued. With the Irish derby a 550 we have no blue ribbon for speed......sad.
I agree with u Seamus in a way but Chart king (winner of 1999 English Derby)was all about early pace,I handled Chart king for a lot of his career and he definitely wasn't a staying type to say the least!!! He was all early pace!!
Peter Crawford Ireland (Verified User) Posts 3169 Dogs 95 / Races 0 29 Jun 2015 05:07
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Loyal honcho
Blonde snapper
Westmead lord
Bandicoot tipoki i know he came from behing to win but would be know for his early pace
Sidaz jack
Droopys scholes
Allen gift
Charlie Borg Ireland (Verified User) Posts 2016 Dogs 0 / Races 0 29 Jun 2015 05:29
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Seamus McCloskey wrote:
The English derby cannot be won by any dog possessing true early pace, it is a competition for the staying types. With the ridiculous long run to the pick up the dogs are running 600 plus at full speed. The three runs in a week is almost cruel to a non staying type.
If it were not for the prize money early paced dogs should stay at home. True speed is no longer required what should be the real test of speed like the 100m in athletics is devalued. With the Irish derby a 550 we have no blue ribbon for speed......sad.
Agree with you for the most part Seamus though i wouldn't say we have no blue ribbon event for the speedsters....in England there's the Coral sprint over the 400 metres which is one of my favorite events every year won a couple of years ago by Blonde Snapper who went on to win the derby, and over here we have the Bar One held in Dundalk every year though i do have a problem with that event because there's no chance for the winner of that comp to contest our derby
Brian Loughnane Ireland (Verified User) Posts 2514 Dogs 107 / Races 6 11 Jun 2018 21:45
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Not so true now doritos wild cat has buckets of early pace...
Jack Ogilvie Australia (Verified User) Posts 15482 Dogs 0 / Races 1 11 Jun 2018 23:49
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