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Sandro Bechini
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Hi Michael

This appears to be a terrific initiative for both non-professional and professional trainers alike

Will you be allocating certain days for breaking in and pre-training sessions?


Troy Scott
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moving in the right direction! :)


Charles W Mizzi
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It is needed badly. As usual forward thinking by Sandown.

Since Tooradin was closed we on this side of town have been disadvantaged, we only have the straight track to work with. The only option was to bring pups to the race track to begin their education. Young dogs just broken need time and patience and a race track with grandstands can be a big jump so patience is important and times away from race dogs will benefit all.

New era.

I am glad that Sandown is leading the way for others to follow.

Cheers


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Sandro Bechini wrote:

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Hi Michael

This appears to be a terrific initiative for both non-professional and professional trainers alike

Will you be allocating certain days for breaking in and pre-training sessions?

Hi Sandro,

Very early planning at this stage, not sure what it will all look like at this stage, but am open to all suggestions!



Hayden Gilders
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What does a training venue consist of


Steve Curtain
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hayden gilders wrote:

What does a training venue consist of

needs viewing cages so young pups can watch dogs going round.


Hayden Gilders
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how would this make things "open & more accountable"?

how many people would establish there own like facility?

how does this further the education and skill set of participants as suggested by Craig Armitage?


Attilio Imperatori
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Any news on this proposal for a training centre?
It's been almost 2 years since it was announced and still no idea if it will actually go ahead.
Eg: is there a competition run, bullring and a long straight track area for galloping that has been proposed?
Thanks


Hugh Taylor
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Attilio Imperatori wrote:

Any news on this proposal for a training centre?
It's been almost 2 years since it was announced and still no idea if it will actually go ahead.
Eg: is there a competition run, bullring and a long straight track area for galloping that has been proposed?
Thanks

just hot air as usual bro. I don't reckon it'll ever happen. If you're suburban weekend warriors like you n me there's not enough in it for em. Was down there last Saturday for arm trials and it seemed pretty hectic ie people are using it for training/breaking now because what other choice do we have?


Attilio Imperatori
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Your right Hugh,
You book a trial and you actually trial 30 minutes later!


Michael Floyd
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Hi Attilio, yes it is going ahead. Lots of council hoops to jump through but it is moving ahead (albeit more slowly than we'd like).

Looking at a bullring, competition runs and galloping paddock with zipping lures and the like. Just not enough land for a straight track unfortunately.


Darren Langley
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Michael Floyd wrote:

Hi Attilio, yes it is going ahead. Lots of council hoops to jump through but it is moving ahead (albeit more slowly than we'd like).

Looking at a bullring, competition runs and galloping paddock with zipping lures and the like. Just not enough land for a straight track unfortunately.

That's great news. When do you think it might start? I know the councils are slow nearly two years come on....

If it takes 2 years to get permits etc etc this country would come to a stand still.

Let's hope for all owners, trainers they get a wriggle on.

Micheal so what stage are you guys at?



Kevin Wright
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Michael Floyd wrote:

Hi Attilio, yes it is going ahead. Lots of council hoops to jump through but it is moving ahead (albeit more slowly than we'd like).

Looking at a bullring, competition runs and galloping paddock with zipping lures and the like. Just not enough land for a straight track unfortunately.


Well Mick if you remove the big shed you will get a 300 metre straight track along the road and you OWN the land you lease to the railway parking and that land there covers a huge area the old car park ..

I was told that the GRV had to sign of on this well over 12 months ago ....

Short runs with a lure running up and down over the short 100 metres will result in a mass of injuries ..

You just cannot put race dogs in work runs and make them twist and turn at the end of competition runs without first rearing them that way ..

Work runs break down race dogs its ok with pre trainers and pups but a race dog will break down in these style of runs and when it happens to your dog you will understand completely what i am talking about ..

Its the twist then take off that does the damage ..





Kevin Wright
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Darren Langley wrote:

Michael Floyd wrote:

Hi Attilio, yes it is going ahead. Lots of council hoops to jump through but it is moving ahead (albeit more slowly than we'd like).

Looking at a bullring, competition runs and galloping paddock with zipping lures and the like. Just not enough land for a straight track unfortunately.

That's great news. When do you think it might start? I know the councils are slow nearly two years come on....

If it takes 2 years to get permits etc etc this country would come to a stand still.

Let's hope for all owners, trainers they get a wriggle on.

Micheal so what stage are you guys at?

LMAO ...
Be careful you may upset some people Darren ....
I never thought you would need a permit to build a straight track or work runs inside the Sandown track and its already fenced and yards placed inside the track ...
How long did the pool permit take to complete from the local Council and i don't think the Local Council would reject any idea Sandown has because lets face it employs so many people and your pokie room brings in millions each year for both the Meadows and Sandown to enjoy ...

We own the land along the back fence in the old carpark so why not take 10 metres away from parking and make a nice straight track out there for everyone to use at any time as long as you have a key .

Out of interest also i see the pool and wash bays are not used when the whippets race and most have to sit out in the sun so will the whippet get access to the kennels and wash bay in the future or do they still stand outside in the sun and weather with dogs barking and getting stirred up each time the lure goes around ..

What is Sandowns plan to help these guys continue racing ..


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guys the section along the back of the sandown can only be a slipping track as to motorize it cannot be done due to council rules that state it must be approx 15 mt from the fence ,property border.
The first bullring was completed just recently at sale and now things can move forwards in that area


Michael Floyd
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I'll try and be brief -

A straight run along Lightwood Road maxes out at about 180m even if taking part of the car park. And that's assuming that we find a solution to the utilities access, drainage and access roads that are currently there.

No one said anything about putting race dogs in the competition runs.

There's a whole bunch of council requirements for pretty much everything we do or want to do. That's the world we live in.

Not sure of the timeline for the pool permit, but we got it rushed through and still took months.

Re the whippets - we don't charge them to use the venue (other than to cover staff costs) and help put on their end of year event. They're welcome to use the wash bays, but the kennel block is not available.



Kevin Wright
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Michael Floyd wrote:

I'll try and be brief -

A straight run along Lightwood Road maxes out at about 180m even if taking part of the car park. And that's assuming that we find a solution to the utilities access, drainage and access roads that are currently there.

No one said anything about putting race dogs in the competition runs.

There's a whole bunch of council requirements for pretty much everything we do or want to do. That's the world we live in.

Not sure of the timeline for the pool permit, but we got it rushed through and still took months.

Re the whippets - we don't charge them to use the venue (other than to cover staff costs) and help put on their end of year event. They're welcome to use the wash bays, but the kennel block is not available.


I feel Mick that Sandown are missing out on something important that will help protect our racing industry and you have pro anti racing people there racing whippets and other breeds so why not use that fully and take advantage of the fact you are drawing in a Larger wider crowd who would not normally set foot on a race track .
I feel you should try and expand into other larger Canine events you have a brilliant facilities there already and you have a big empty space in the middle that could be utilised for other canine events and shows ..

Build it and they will come so you have built it now share it around let non greyhound people in to share in what we offer and to me and i could be wrong but i think this encourages people who never thought racing a Canine could be so much fun and ANTI racing people get to see how well we really do look after Greyhounds because most of them show other breeds or do other Canine related activities .




Ian Bradshaw
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Attilio Imperatori wrote:

Any news on this proposal for a training centre?
It's been almost 2 years since it was announced and still no idea if it will actually go ahead.
Eg: is there a competition run, bullring and a long straight track area for galloping that has been proposed?
Thanks

Are there enough greyhounds trained in the local area to make a training centre viable at Sandown? Many years ago, seeing greyhounds being walked around the streets of Springvale and Noble Park, was the norm. Today it is extremely rare. Has Sandown done their homework, and found the numbers don't stack up ??



Peter Bryce
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Kevin
I put a concept to Administrators several years ago
for A Greyhound Expo at the Meadows
The idea was for a All Breeds Dog Show on a Friday
A Greyhound Expo (Hydrobaths, Floats, Kennel enclosures, Nutrition, Veterinarians, Technology, etc) of Displays and events Friday through to Sunday
A Magic Millions type Greyhound Auction on the Saturday with a Magic Millions type event on Saturday night
Greyhounds purchased the previous year to compete for a Group Event
Sunday was a flow through Auction and Expo

I did highlight that the event would be in the Car park or surrounds and that Canine wouldn't enter the Race Complex
Sometimes things are just TOO HARD

You won't guess what the objection was
PARVO and similar diseases brought onto the complex by Canine other than Greyhounds

It couldn't work???
Ask Gerry Harvey and John Singleton

Are Administrators TOO OLD TOO LAZY??



Richard Gray
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Mick Floyds reply was more than reasonable. (regardless of the usual and expected reply's from the recent cereal pest of all sites greyhounds)Sandown is limited on size and council "crap" just makes things harder. Country tracks have more room and scope to put in place "Full training facilities". I see that Bendigo is progressing well along this path. The more country tracks follow this lead, the better for the game overall.


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