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Benjamin Lee Miller Australia (Verified User) Posts 103 Dogs 11 / Races 0 30 Jun 2016 00:17
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I agree whole heartedly with the prize money gaps between distances. The average punter or pro punter doesn't want to bet on races that take 17 seconds to be over and if you win the box rise you win far too often. There is far more excitement in longer races and watching the dog you had your hard earned on come from behind in the straight to win. Short course dogs are still receiving the same or more prize money than they were before. I feel like at the moment it is a real buyers market. Prize money is up, pup prices are very reasonable and i have seen some people offering rearing as cheap as $40 p/w (how this can be done effectively I do not know). Buying a pup and getting it to racing age seems great value at the moment. I would suggest the risk is now higher of getting your pup to the track as the rate of dogs not chasing at break in must be higher than it has ever been. Although we are currently going through very tough times as an industry it is nice that there are at least some positives out there for the average punter to get in the game now. There are probably less positives for breeders and rearers as there is a shortage of pups to rear and pup prices in my opinion seem very low, but in the near future will they improve with a shortage of current pups and increased prizemoney? I guess only time will tell.
Is now the time to invest heavily and breed as much quality as we can?
A very rich man once said be fearful when others are greedy and be greedy when others are fearful.
James Saunders Australia (Verified User) Posts 4644 Dogs 3 / Races 3 30 Jun 2016 00:50
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its a positive move no doubt...
Mark Donohue Australia (Verified User) Posts 3236 Dogs 6 / Races 0 30 Jun 2016 03:10
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I just voted for the party who I think will support greyhound racing at the national level as I know they do in NSW. . Great n interesting ideas from Chris n Ben. Your views are respectfully provocative n debatable.
I heard we may be finally getting the tax cut money we are due a few days after the election....I really hope this mail is correct.
This could be a game changer for racing in NSW if it comes and increases prize money.
Mark Staines Australia (Verified User) Posts 4497 Dogs 70 / Races 14 02 Jul 2016 06:01
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BENJAMIN LEE MILLER wrote:
I agree whole heartedly with the prize money gaps between distances. The average punter or pro punter doesn't want to bet on races that take 17 seconds to be over and if you win the box rise you win far too often. There is far more excitement in longer races and watching the dog you had your hard earned on come from behind in the straight to win. Short course dogs are still receiving the same or more prize money than they were before. I feel like at the moment it is a real buyers market. Prize money is up, pup prices are very reasonable and i have seen some people offering rearing as cheap as $40 p/w (how this can be done effectively I do not know). Buying a pup and getting it to racing age seems great value at the moment. I would suggest the risk is now higher of getting your pup to the track as the rate of dogs not chasing at break in must be higher than it has ever been. Although we are currently going through very tough times as an industry it is nice that there are at least some positives out there for the average punter to get in the game now. There are probably less positives for breeders and rearers as there is a shortage of pups to rear and pup prices in my opinion seem very low, but in the near future will they improve with a shortage of current pups and increased prizemoney? I guess only time will tell.
Is now the time to invest heavily and breed as much quality as we can?
A very rich man once said be fearful when others are greedy and be greedy when others are fearful.
The very rich Man that you quoted is Warren Buffett.
Mark Donohue Australia (Verified User) Posts 3236 Dogs 6 / Races 0 10 Jul 2016 11:06
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Jack Gatty wrote:
18/12/15 - It's blatantly obvious that the government (led by the thoroughbred lobby, V'landys etc) have done a job on the greyhound industry. The ICA and tax parity have been a money grab by the horses. It's always the money trail that tells the story. If this hasn't been a stich up and collusion between V'landys and the NSW government, I'll go hopping to hell.
. We were onto it even before the 18 December 2015. Well done Jack
Mark Donohue Australia (Verified User) Posts 3236 Dogs 6 / Races 0 10 Jul 2016 11:12
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Sandro Bechini wrote:
Mark Donohue wrote:
18/12/15 Yes Allen, Aren't we all ? What a pity we can't be united because we are being assaulted left, right and centre, and Jack would suggest from the rear end as well. I've never seen an industry like it. Last Saturday (arvo) an Albury Tab meeting was like the charge of the Light Brigade because there were that many horses in the race ! They've been doubling up their meetings on a Saturday for awhile now. It's full steam ahead for them as they are well led, driven, supported and ridden. . Sandro, That's right. We've really had no or very little consultation in the models until now. I still think mass changes will be the wrong option n I cynically write it would suit the thoroughbreds if we close many tracks because I feel they will never reopen again. . We are trading at 20% so we should be growing, yet we are closing down tracks and it's not political ? . I have to clarify my support for a model I.e. The Hub and Racing Spoke Model.
To be fair to them Mark
With the pressure of the Special Commission of Inquiry bearing down on them, its not like they have been given a huge amount of time to come up with options to restructure and save this industry
I think the JWG have done a great job so far in identifying the major changes required in the industry in NSW
I just hope that instead of whinging that they get the support of participants
As the Duke said on The Catching Pen, if we don;t restructure and get the framework right now and make all the relevant changes then there won't be a greyhound industry in NSW in 2 years
. It's funny what we write. We've reformed and copped it to the end ! Let's see how we go together and 'come from behind' !
Mark Donohue Australia (Verified User) Posts 3236 Dogs 6 / Races 0 12 Jul 2016 01:51
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Yesterday's (Monday, 11/7/16) interview on 2GB between Ray Hadley and Mr Robert Borsak. Can anyone find the link for me ?? I'll `have a go' later. . EXTERNAL LINK
Mark Donohue Australia (Verified User) Posts 3236 Dogs 6 / Races 0 13 Jul 2016 03:02
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They've just closed non-TAB tracks (12/7/16)for safety reasons. What garbage ! This is political interference at its highest ! . They've had a staff member in there specifically for the task, for about 12 months. So, what has he being doing ? One track not being up to scratch doesn't mean they all aren't ! Sounds familiar ? They've been racing weeks on end without complaint from the authority. . So, all TAB tracks are perfect and all non-TAB have safety issues. What a coincidence ! An administrator is to be appointed so the closing-down of the industry starts in the country. Is it fraud ? Obtaining a Benefit by Deception ? You decide. . This is retribution because we are trying to defend ourselves. They're flexing their muscles. I have No Confidence in the GRNSW n LNP just like before. I told you they are not our leaders - just our regulators. It's disgraceful ! . I wonder if I ever did meet them would they say, "Please to meet you, I hope you get my name. What's puzzling you is the nature of my game."
Mark Donohue Australia (Verified User) Posts 3236 Dogs 6 / Races 0 15 Jul 2016 01:53
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You don't hear or read much about whether the Animals Justice Party has sided with the LNP to push through the council amalgamations and in return, close down the greyhound industry ? . Wenty Park used to be multi-functional with the soccer being played there, the Sydney Roosters training there, etc. It must be worth millions in terms of usage (both inner and outer Wenty Park) other than for greyhound racing. They've been looking for land to extend the fish markets and develop Black Wattle Bay along Pyrmont Bridge Road foreshore for awhile.
Mark Donohue Australia (Verified User) Posts 3236 Dogs 6 / Races 0 30 Sep 2016 06:07
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You've gotta laugh, I just found a picture of our Sports and Racing and Police Minister, Boo Boo Grant on page 23 of today's (Friday) SMH. He's our Arts Minister as well ! . Part of the article had a spokesperson for the Minister say, "Cultural institutions, like other government organisations such as health, education and transport, are required to meet modest efficiency targets to ensure they continue to provide value to the taxpayer." . Well, why does the Minister continue to prop up the T'Bred Industry ? He's a BS Artist and should just stick to the Arts portfolio.
Mark Donohue Australia (Verified User) Posts 3236 Dogs 6 / Races 0 06 Oct 2016 05:44
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Mark Donohue wrote:
Sandro, The government is wrong to shackle the industry when it has clearly out-performed the other two codes in TAB Turnover. I have given my support to the JWG with a degree of caution because they have an agenda that doesn't include correcting the ICA n that tax harmonisation tax reduction piece of legislation that are unfair. Do you think it's fair ? . There is nothing wrong with debating subjects when clearly there is something wrong. I don't call it whinging. You might, but I don't.
. We didn't even get any monies from the Tax Harmonisation Bill. What a rort and an insult. That's right, we are supposedly dumb and expected to roll over when we are kicked in the guts many times. . CAN THE BAN and GIVE US OUR FAIR SHARE !
Mark Donohue Australia (Verified User) Posts 3236 Dogs 6 / Races 0 08 Oct 2016 02:18
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Strong fields on the non-TAB tracks today (Saturday), especially Gunnedah. This on the back of another successful Coonamble Carnival, albeit not as well advertised like the previous year. . These are National Party areas. . CAN THE BAN and GIVE THEM THE FLICK !
Mark Donohue Australia (Verified User) Posts 3236 Dogs 6 / Races 0 10 Oct 2016 23:28
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The NSW Gov't is already dictating to OUR industry what they want to happen as the BAN is overturned. . I've written it before and will write it again, we are growing better than the other two codes. There is no talk about the ICA and Tax Harmonisation documents that would have had us thriving with proper enforcement and rules and regulations. Even though the past 18 months were a massive change to the industry and three years of reform that included knowing where OUR dogs were located, it was the result of forcing the regulators (GRNSW) to appreciate what we wanted that brought it to a head because frankly, they were only doing `half a job'.
Mark Donohue Australia (Verified User) Posts 3236 Dogs 6 / Races 0 11 Oct 2016 01:06
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Yogi Baird and Boo Boo Grant are currently at a press conference trying to sell their reasons for overturning the BAN. Baird stated that he got it wrong !! Baaaaaaa ! He's a career politician born into it.
Andrew Plasier Australia (Verified User) Posts 1279 Dogs 0 / Races 16 11 Oct 2016 01:07
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see some idiot got caught for cruelty yesterday in sydney,some ppl need to be rubbed out,that is just outright stupidity.
Mark Donohue Australia (Verified User) Posts 3236 Dogs 6 / Races 0 11 Oct 2016 01:16
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They are not going to repeal the BAN immediately. Baird is claiming that we have changed our minds and are desperate for change as per the advice of Keniry. We've been changing for three years - it's just that we haven't had strong leadership within the regulatory body and Grant seized the moment. Baird continues to claim that animal cruelty is systemic yet, there aren't many successful criminal matters or even many that have been brought before court.
Andrew Plasier Australia (Verified User) Posts 1279 Dogs 0 / Races 16 11 Oct 2016 01:24
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yeah & its all about welfare,so they say,looks like dogs are the only animals that race,because they don't seem to care what happens too any other animals that race.
Mark Donohue Australia (Verified User) Posts 3236 Dogs 6 / Races 0 11 Oct 2016 04:34
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Today is an unforgettable moment in history ! . They have provided a lame excuse for overturning the decision. They claimed that they got it wrong, for not listening to their constituents. . Bring on the Bi-Election. They might listen a little better after the result.
Mick Thompson Australia (Verified User) Posts 634 Dogs 15 / Races 8 11 Oct 2016 04:47
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Mark Donohue wrote:
Today is an unforgettable moment in history ! . They have provided a lame excuse for overturning the decision. They claimed that they got it wrong, for not listening to their constituents. . Bring on the Bi-Election. They might listen a little better after the result.
They both have to Go Grant first he is the racing minister & has been threw this & had it all wrong looking after his mates the horses industry.
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