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Malcolm Smart Australia (Verified User) Posts 12802 Dogs 19 / Races 34 16 Jan 2018 04:37
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why does it have to be the track's fault for injuries , couldn't it be unfit dog's , injured dog's going into the race or just plain bad luck..???
Mark Donohue Australia (Verified User) Posts 3236 Dogs 6 / Races 0 16 Jan 2018 04:54
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Why is The Gardens again going to be repaired ?
To answer your question, I dont think Jason Mackays dog would be unfit (won Newcastle Cup) or injured going into the race, and the increase in strains to dogs legs was noted.
Malcolm Smart Australia (Verified User) Posts 12802 Dogs 19 / Races 34 16 Jan 2018 05:02
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Mark Donohue wrote:
Why is The Gardens again going to be repaired ?
To answer your question, I dont think Jason Mackays dog would be unfit (won Newcastle Cup) or injured going into the race, and the increase in strains to dogs legs was noted.
so you automatically cancel out "just plain bad luck", its getting repaired because the grnsw have to look for an excuse for every injury... If the track was so bad, why are trainers nominating there, if there is a problem they all would have known, racing or trialing..
Mark Donohue Australia (Verified User) Posts 3236 Dogs 6 / Races 0 16 Jan 2018 05:32
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Im not eliminating bad luck but I dont think it fits in here. A few people stopped nominating n complaints were made. A lot just back up and hope that bad luck doesnt fall on them. They must have found something that caused concern. The trials after the repair work was limited.
I hope that GRNSW comes out and provides an answer to the reason why second repair work was required and what they did to remedy the problem this time. After all, its our funds going into the one track all of the time even though GRNSW owns it.
Malcolm Smart Australia (Verified User) Posts 12802 Dogs 19 / Races 34 16 Jan 2018 05:38
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there answer as always, "it's the track staff's fault"
Mark Donohue Australia (Verified User) Posts 3236 Dogs 6 / Races 0 16 Jan 2018 07:32
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Well, whos fault is it ? Isnt it just bad luck ?
Malcolm Smart Australia (Verified User) Posts 12802 Dogs 19 / Races 34 16 Jan 2018 08:15
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track staff are doing what there told, grnsw have to take some blame, if its not getting done the way they want, they should be overseeing it, not complaining after the fact..
Mark Donohue Australia (Verified User) Posts 3236 Dogs 6 / Races 0 16 Jan 2018 09:02
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They cant be be doing what theyre told, you know that. GRNSW turns up a few hours before a meeting to find there are problems with the track. So, you want GRNSW to watch / oversee all tracks most days of the week? Whats the use in having track curators?
Malcolm Smart Australia (Verified User) Posts 12802 Dogs 19 / Races 34 16 Jan 2018 09:16
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HELLO. !!! that's why they employed the guy, to teach/oversee track maintenance ..
Mark Donohue Australia (Verified User) Posts 3236 Dogs 6 / Races 0 16 Jan 2018 11:29
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Seems like we are agreeing in part, with each other, but he cant be at every track. Why arent some curators doing what theyve been asked to do ? Its back to that question again !
Why are there so many good curators and some average ? The good ones are being overseen too !
Malcolm Smart Australia (Verified User) Posts 12802 Dogs 19 / Races 34 16 Jan 2018 11:39
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Mark Donohue wrote:
Seems like we are agreeing in part, with each other, but he cant be at every track. Why arent some curators doing what theyve been asked to do ? Its back to that question again !
Why are there so many good curators and some average ? The good ones are being overseen too !
well if he done his job and taught them there job, we wouldn't have this problem..
Joe Baldacchino Australia (Verified User) Posts 561 Dogs 6 / Races 2 19 Jan 2018 05:08
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With 'The Gardens' situation being what it is, you'd think that it merited a more 'hands on' approach from the Head Curator during the remedial work. Did that Occur? Why is there a need for further work and what led to the problem not being fixed in the first place. Seems to me that a serious situation requires some serious oversight. Once again, we are being left in the dark as to what is actually going on and that's not good enough.
Mark Donohue Australia (Verified User) Posts 3236 Dogs 6 / Races 0 19 Jan 2018 07:55
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Thanks Joe. It sounds like Ive just been partly repeated. Also, we dont know what contribution GRNSW has made in the past. Id like to know from the secret squirrels what went wrong.
Places like Casino, Grafton, Young, Bulli, Dapto, etc dont have the same consistent problems as TG, Maitland, Gosford and WP, but so far so good for Gosford, Maitland and WP. Yet, someone thinks its GRNSWs fault or its just bad luck.
Tor Janes Australia (Verified User) Posts 10022 Dogs 16 / Races 0 19 Jan 2018 09:57
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One by one, they need to go through every track, re do them if needed, write the procedures manual and check every track once a month, not rocket science, follow best practise, that is look at the safe tracks and repeat.
They have enough staff to do this, but do they have the knowledge and application to follow it through thats the issue.
You cant have different types of sand and bases for example at different tracks, why do that, just take the best and replicate.
Mark Donohue Australia (Verified User) Posts 3236 Dogs 6 / Races 0 19 Jan 2018 19:35
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Tor, Who knows, they probably do.
Yes, pick the best sand/loam and maintain it properly.
Brett Tooth Australia (Verified User) Posts 92 Dogs 10 / Races 0 19 Jan 2018 22:15
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Sounds like too much common sense. Not in GRNSW's dictionary. $160,000 track rebuild that was half funded by the gardens & ends up in a debacle. Too much of the looks good on paper, not enough on the ground knowledge. As it was my favourite track to race at it saddens me that the beuracrats have crucified the track surface. But as I'm now a retired trainer I don't have to worry about getting jerked around by these dictators. Spectator for me from now, much less frustrating
Mick Thompson Australia (Verified User) Posts 634 Dogs 15 / Races 8 20 Jan 2018 04:18
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Even this time around Loads of sand have been sent back Cause its shit get the right stuff & be done with it & let the curator do his job but with the right product. & there are alot of injury's out of Gosford & Maitland so its not Just the Gardens
Mark Donohue Australia (Verified User) Posts 3236 Dogs 6 / Races 0 20 Jan 2018 04:48
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Its unfortunate Brett that you live near the three tracks that have had a lot of trouble while the other 85% of tracks are doing well.
Mark Donohue Australia (Verified User) Posts 3236 Dogs 6 / Races 0 20 Jan 2018 22:09
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Maybe we should ask Kath Ernst of Australian Greyhound Racing to investigate the debacle.
Terry Jordan Australia (Verified User) Posts 6013 Dogs 0 / Races 0 22 Jan 2018 05:33
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Mark Donohue wrote:
Tor, Who knows, they probably do.
Yes, pick the best sand/loam and maintain it properly.
Not only the Dogs Mark having trouble with track surfaces. Randwick Saturday was a disgrace (Leader bias). Punters are clocking of early and keeping there hard earned in their pockets. Eagle Farm: Brisbane Winter Carnival was Diabolical. As was several meetings during the Melb Spring. Don't believe any of their curators were sacked? Sign of the times? Pandering to so few. Or are we getting soft and over sensitive?
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