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Mark Donohue Australia (Verified User) Posts 3236 Dogs 6 / Races 0 22 Jan 2018 08:28
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TJ, My advice is dont bet on them. What was the injury level ? Horses dont get 10 days if they scratch and Winx trialled at Rosehill without a problem.
I heard The Gardens is a basket case, but I would like the authority to come out with a media release with a full blown explanation as to why our monies, estimated at over $160k were spent on the track and what went wrong with it in the first and/or second instances.
Steve Bennie Australia (Verified User) Posts 697 Dogs 11 / Races 2 22 Jan 2018 23:52
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Maitland and The GOAT TRACK (GARDENS) have destroyed greyhound racing in the hunter valley, Maitlnd is built on a flood area and the Gardens is on a swamp? now the last thing sand needs is water and that is why they have so many problems with it, sand is a maintenance problem when used in the wrong areas. Who made the biggest desision to change from grass AND HOW MANY MILLIONS DID IT COST and no one will tell you the truth. THE SECRET SERVICE is costing the greyhounds more than you would dream of. We only need a smart person at the top to listen to people who have been there and done it but that would be a embarrassment and they just keep making the same mistakes because they have know Ba??s
Mark Donohue Australia (Verified User) Posts 3236 Dogs 6 / Races 0 23 Jan 2018 00:27
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I heard contractor from a select few then sub-contractors n more sub-contractors buggered TG n no contractor or organisation will take responsibility. Same old, same old.
Apparently, (allegedly) it was the same contractor who had problems at Gosford. Thats unconfirmed. Will the contractor get the next job ? Watch out, whether you want it or not, the capital works could be coming to your track really soon. Rated M, Comedy.
Mark Donohue Australia (Verified User) Posts 3236 Dogs 6 / Races 0 23 Jan 2018 21:32
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The Head Contractor should always take the praise / criticism and if the principals representative was present throughout the entire process, then both should be asked to account for the monumental stuff up. It appears they will all get paid again !
If the new CEOs want accountability and integrity just concentrate on TG and youll find a whole lot wrong with the joint and things will start to unravel. Im not suggesting that staff dont work hard and participants dont like the place, but GRNSW needs to dig a little deeper to unearth the entrenched problems.
GRNSW has an immediate conflict of interest because they are owners and regulators. How they overcome that issue on a weekly basis needs urgent attention as well as addressing corporate governance. Some readers know what Im talking about and some know more than me.
If the new CEOs dont get on top of this big issue, it will remain entrenched in the system and psyche forever! We pay about $850k p.a. for these guys so you would think our monies have bought something good. I did hear they are focussed on integrity, so lets see what you are worth.
Mark Donohue Australia (Verified User) Posts 3236 Dogs 6 / Races 0 24 Jan 2018 05:47
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At the moment, The Gardens is like a ghost town, allegedly with no remedial work being conducted. Is there any urgency to get it fixed ? Who is really running the show ?
Geoffrey Monish Australia (Verified User) Posts 61 Dogs 0 / Races 0 24 Jan 2018 07:41
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Dry sand will never work you make no sence
Mark Donohue Australia (Verified User) Posts 3236 Dogs 6 / Races 0 24 Jan 2018 08:02
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I think youre only half right; the first part of course. I dont ever recall suggesting that dry sand is good.
I think youre referring to Steves comment and I think he was referring to the mosh pit effect when there is too much water during flooding.
Do we get rent from the joint ? Its like opening pandoras box !
Steve Bennie Australia (Verified User) Posts 697 Dogs 11 / Races 2 27 Jan 2018 03:15
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geoffrey monish wrote:
Dry sand will never work you make no sence
Geoff there are flood gates on the hunter river leading to the swamp were the gardens track is built, they were closed for along time until they realised it was a breeding ground for the hunter river prawns so they had to open them again now when we get a lot of rain up the valley it flows to newcastle and when the high tide comes in the rest is history or should i say nightmare.
Bruce Teague Australia (Verified User) Posts 2092 Dogs 0 / Races 0 27 Jan 2018 23:16
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I can't remember that affecting Beaumont Park. It could be weather affected in heavy rain but not flood affected as such. And how does Broadmeadows fare?
Mark Donohue Australia (Verified User) Posts 3236 Dogs 6 / Races 0 28 Jan 2018 00:20
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Bruce, Beaumont Park was at Broadmeadow next to the race track and not on swamp. The Gardens is at Birmingham Gardens (hint about the name) about five kms away and is on swamp land.
Steve Bennie Australia (Verified User) Posts 697 Dogs 11 / Races 2 28 Jan 2018 01:22
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Mark Donohue wrote:
Bruce, Beaumont Park was at Broadmeadow next to the race track and not on swamp. The Gardens is at Birmingham Gardens (hint about the name) about five kms away and is on swamp land.
Mark you can take the cows to the water but you can't make them drink ?, the gardens and the sand are a disaster. I forgot to mention that the Gardens would also be the closest greyhound track in the world to a set of flood gates,i wonder who the governments advisers names are! who give it the OK.
Mark Donohue Australia (Verified User) Posts 3236 Dogs 6 / Races 0 28 Jan 2018 03:19
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Apparently, someone wants business people to continue to run the show, ba ha.
Mark Donohue Australia (Verified User) Posts 3236 Dogs 6 / Races 0 07 Feb 2018 23:47
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I heard Brian Barrington has been assisting at TG after remedial work proved unsatisfactory. I heard GRNSW went for some cheaper sand instead of bungendore. So, a couple of issues on top of some other issues.
Are they going to trial before racing ?
Gary Brown Australia (Verified User) Posts 227 Dogs 0 / Races 0 08 Feb 2018 00:15
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Mark Donohue wrote:
I heard Brian Barrington has been assisting at TG after remedial work proved unsatisfactory. I heard GRNSW went for some cheaper sand instead of bungendore. So, a couple of issues on top of some other issues.
Are they going to trial before racing ?
I'm about improving things, so lets try this;
Blaming the sand will depend on who issues the Purchase Order with the Specifications of what sand mix is required (GRNSW/Club) and whether the supplier of the sand is NATA certified and whether each load is accompanied by a delivery docket which certifies compliances with EPA regulations and purchase order specifications, upon arrival the appropriately demonstrated competent person, signs and accept the load as complying with the specifications of the purchase order!
Who has the Delivery Dockets confirming what was ordered, who by and where from was delivered?
There is the ULTIMATE EVIDENCE OF BLAME ! Lesson 102 of Quality Assurance!
Mark Donohue Australia (Verified User) Posts 3236 Dogs 6 / Races 0 08 Feb 2018 01:15
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Gary, Two things.
Whos signed up for Quality Assurance ?
The sand might be the problem and maybe there are issues either stemming from the type of sand used or separate from it.
Mark Donohue Australia (Verified User) Posts 3236 Dogs 6 / Races 0 08 Feb 2018 01:57
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Mark Donohue wrote:
I heard Brian Barrington has been assisting at TG after remedial work proved unsatisfactory. I heard GRNSW went for some cheaper sand instead of bungendore. So, a couple of issues on top of some other issues.
Are they going to trial before racing ?
Nope, BB hasnt been assisting. He was going to be asked to help, but is elsewhere. Hes unavailable. Meanwhile, Mr Wilson will be up there on Monday and its unknown when the work will be completed.
Bill Deguara Australia (Verified User) Posts 215 Dogs 2 / Races 0 08 Feb 2018 03:53
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Mark Donohue wrote:
Mark Donohue wrote:
I heard Brian Barrington has been assisting at TG after remedial work proved unsatisfactory. I heard GRNSW went for some cheaper sand instead of bungendore. So, a couple of issues on top of some other issues.
Are they going to trial before racing ?
Nope, BB hasnt been assisting. He was going to be asked to help, but is elsewhere. Hes unavailable. Meanwhile, Mr Wilson will be up there on Monday and its unknown when the work will be completed.
When a business ,any business is run by IDIOTS, the result will always be the same. CATASTROPHIC end of story,Get rid of the IDIOTS and we will flourish keep them on and we are as good as DEAD.
Gary Brown Australia (Verified User) Posts 227 Dogs 0 / Races 0 08 Feb 2018 05:29
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Mark Donohue wrote:
Gary, Two things.
Whos signed up for Quality Assurance ?
The sand might be the problem and maybe there are issues either stemming from the type of sand used or separate from it.
Mark
No one signs up for Quality Assurance.
However Industries with Corpprate Strategies which reference Worlds Best Practice ADOPT Quality Management paradigms.
Would it not be a classic for our industry to have an audit able decision making process that is transparent and widely communicated?
Mark Donohue Australia (Verified User) Posts 3236 Dogs 6 / Races 0 08 Feb 2018 06:29
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Yes, CQI through TQM. Businesses endorse it, therefore sign up for it. Thats why I asked because they mightnt have a clue what we are discussing. Like a wrote somewhere, the days of fairy floss n swings at events are not attracting the customer.
Mark Donohue Australia (Verified User) Posts 3236 Dogs 6 / Races 0 08 Feb 2018 22:29
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EXTERNAL LINK Another urgent talk with the GBOTA. Impose fines and costs associated with abandoned meetings and/or find someone who can do the job consistently right.
It was four days between a good track and an abandoned track. It seems to me it wasnt the fault of the weather or was it ? I dont think you can blame the good weather on this occasion.
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