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Nathan Bendeich
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Mark Wilcox wrote:

I was thinking the other day how silly this game is getting when your kennels are full and you have to bring the next lot in you have to move some on so instead of moving the slower ones on you have to sell the ones that can run a bit because no one wants to buy the slower ones anymore even if they can win races .With the breeding dropping off and the rehoming taking forever the powers to be have to do something to move dogs on quicker and stop bowing to the anties start making some hard decisions otherwise we are finished.

Said it a hundred times and ages ago , close the country tracks and the ones that are open pay them nothing ,add to this a grading system that only caters for the elite dog as no consistent weekly options for the slow chasers , that bottle necks 70% of the industry and how it should flow in a unified cycle !

Heres the alternate way Ive said .

Cut top end prize money , funnel it into lower grade / provincial / country tracks , have an annual or even two time event carnival per each area for the Poeple who have actually taken the top end give aways which will then involve more towns and Poeple back into the sport , meaning more pets rehomed privately ( less strain on GAP ) and a larger person person pool reached across the country as a whole !

There needs to be a day every week at every track where all the 5th grade runners who still chase but are a clear 10 lengths slower need to be catered for ! No questions or debates about it ! Instead you have these same dogs either put up in 4th/5th grade used up !! Its incredibly unjust and as an industry amateur at best !

If this doesnt happen the game will be gone at my guess by 5-7 years

Theres in no cycle and viablitly, yet the top end are fine ???

As I always say , enjoy the top end while it last coz it wont be around forever



Mark Wilcox
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Nathan you have some good ideas but you still need good money at the top end that is why people strive to get that good one ,but my point is in the end whether the dogs are good or not we can not keep them all some have to be moved on that is why it should be up to the connections not GWIC or GRNSW ,I know that will not happen but they will have to work something better than what we have now .


Mark Staines
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If the strategically placed Anti's are not disposed of ASAP all of the above is totally irrelevant !

Unfortunately i can't see that happening any time soon !

The industry is withering on the Vine !

Enjoy the time left with your beloved Hounds !

The end is near !




Nathan Bendeich
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Mark Wilcox ,u do need good money at the top end .. 6k to $300 week in week out for country works at 5% from the other obviously isnt it !!

Plus feature events every 8-12 weeks with a 1.5 million dollar night as a cherry on top is insane !

If it was as balanced as you could be implying ??? Why are we where we are !

Instead of further protecting the already nourished , look at whos leaving and ask yourself why !

A tree doesnt flourish from watering its top leaves , include and look after the whole industry , a larger inclusion of personal under the same breeding numbers at current equals more homes and a cycle within the industry thats constant and LASTS .

No one is going to join the sport to watch their dog be graded out or win $100 at country level !

Said it for the last time .

Mark stains , your a tool


Mark Staines
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Nathan you have shown your true form again !

If being a realist makes me a TOOL you must be a DELUSIONAL IMBECILE !




Mark William Claxton
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Races like MDC are just a bandaid solution to the industries troubles. As with all this current level of prizemoney, why aren't the breeding numbers "up?". As Peter Davis wrote recently, 'the tsunami is coming'. Ie BIG shortage of race dogs. Also adding to the low numbers, I am hearing breakers can only get on average 6 out of 10 to chase. Less dogs = less turnover = less prizemoney $$.



Nathan Bendeich
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Mark Staines wrote:

Nathan you have shown your true form again !

If being a realist makes me a TOOL you must be a DELUSIONAL IMBECILE !

Youve thrown your hat in the ring , so leave ! Doomsday posts with no input are as useless as tits on a bull .

What you know about me would fit on the end of a budgies dick ! Smart arse


Mark Staines
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"What you know about me would fit on the end of a budgies dick ! Smart arse"

That's all i need to know to conclude that you're a DELUSIONAL IMBECILE !

SOLDIER ON DUD !


Mark Donohue
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Mark Staines wrote:

Enjoy the time left with your beloved Hounds !

The end is near !

Nathan Bendeich wrote:

If this doesnt happen the game will be gone at my guess by 5-7 years

I hope you are both wrong.


Mark Donohue
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1 July 2023 (from page 88)

Looking forward and into the not-too-distant future, if I'm reading the room correctly and of course only my opinion, I feel that Richmond will become our premier track when our lease expires at WP, with one City Meeting per week along with Provincial Meetings, and the Centre of Excellence when it's built at Orange will be operated by the GBOTA with a City Meeting and perhaps Provincial Meetings per week.

P.S. It wasn't hard to figure out. Appin will pay for it. However, I reckon it is 5-7 years away.



Paul Ballantine
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Mark Donohue wrote:

1 July 2023 (from page 88)

Looking forward and into the not-too-distant future, if I'm reading the room correctly and of course only my opinion, I feel that Richmond will become our premier track when our lease expires at WP, with one City Meeting per week along with Provincial Meetings, and the Centre of Excellence when it's built at Orange will be operated by the GBOTA with a City Meeting and perhaps Provincial Meetings per week.

P.S. It wasn't hard to figure out. Appin will pay for it. However, I reckon it is 5-7 years away.


Im hoping it isnt unless they fix that 520 meter start if they rip it all down and redo I wouldnt have a problem. I dont want wenty to go there is a lot of history there



Sandro Bechini
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The 520m start at Richmond is an abomination and whoever allowed it to be installed from GRNSW should be sacked

And revert it back at least 10 metres to a 530m start



Nathan Bendeich
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Sandro Bechini wrote:

The 520m start at Richmond is an abomination and whoever allowed it to be installed from GRNSW should be sacked

And revert it back at least 10 metres to a 530m start

Or leave it where it was and have 2 winning posts

And Ive heard the excuse of electronically it cant be done , wake up to yourselves , anything can be done and stop spewing regurgitated shyte !

App when I argued about this problem I was the only one who had and every other trainer in Richmond liked it !

Crock of shyte and ya get no where at all no matter how stupid it is or right you are !

Ps. 10 min after that waste of lies and crap convo they closed the track due to many dogs ripping their pads and nails off with split webbing and pins and hocks being done and said trial at own risk for remaining trials !

Lol she really made sense with our conversation didnt she ?

Point is , we hobbies are all along for the ride , and that ride doesnt include Appin app , another nail in the hobbies coffin hey !

And some one is trying to tell me nsw is placed really really well ?

Whole thing is laughable

Pss Attention all hobbies . Better off starting to hand applications out for a kennel hand job to one of the Magnificent 8 top trainers in nsw , by the time all the tracks are closed and 1000 pups being bred , theyll be the only ones left in the game !

Heres my application,
Positives can do everything !
Negatives. There is none , Im better then you !

Keep bringing it


Paul Ballantine
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Nathan Bendeich wrote:

Sandro Bechini wrote:

The 520m start at Richmond is an abomination and whoever allowed it to be installed from GRNSW should be sacked

And revert it back at least 10 metres to a 530m start

Or leave it where it was and have 2 winning posts
And Ive heard the excuse of electronically it cant be done , wake up to yourselves , anything can be done and stop spewing regurgitated shyte !

App when I argued about this problem I was the only one who had and every other trainer in Richmond liked it !

Crock of shyte and ya get no where at all no matter how stupid it is or right you are !

Richmond is my local track and I agree with both of you about the 520 meter start. The thing is I dont know of anyone who approves of it. I know the close locals may approve but I belive its only about the money on offer is the reason why they are racing there. Go back to 2 k and see how many races they get.. and they cant compare welfare between the 535 and 520 as its not the same sand being used on each track and it took them a while to get that right.


Mark Wilcox
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I think if we are out of w/park by 2027 Richmond would be ideal that is if they knock everything down track kennels all the buildings all down to nothing then spend what ever it takes to make it first class .I no the GBOTA would not be happy but you would save all that rent money been paid at wenty and you would not have to buy land somewhere ,you could have a club like Sandown and that would generate money as well you have to move forward not backwards you need everything in one spot .


Mark Donohue
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Peter Davis Comments in Greyhound Recorder on 24 March 2024 relating to greyhound racing at non-TAB tracks..

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BYGONE ERA

For an extended period, Greyhound Racing NSW has rightfully considered non-TAB racing to be an expensive remnant from a bygone era.

In the 90's, Moss Vale, Queanbeyan, Appin, Wyong, Griffith, Narrabri, Forbes, Cowra, Young, Gunnedah, Tamworth, Armidale, Coonabarabran, Coonamble, Tweed Heads, Kempsey, Taree, Wauchope, Albury, Orange, Muswellbrook, Potts Park, Broken Hill and Moree raced regularly but how things have changed.

Muswellbrook, Gunnedah, Taree and Broken Hill continue with TAB coverage with only Potts Park, Coonamble and Moree otherwise in play.

And the logic around keeping non-TAB racing alive is hard to fathom.

Moree raced on Saturday with only 37 dogs drawn in six races, there were four scratchings and only 12 trainers were represented.

Total prize money for the 6-race card was a mere $4550 yet the cost to industry was significant (a vet, stewards, track/kennel staff etc).

And the impact it had on TAB meetings Dubbo and Gunnedah is tangible.

Dubbo raced on Saturday and conducted just 10 TAB races which is uncommon while Gunnedah's Thursday meeting was also restricted to 10 events.

No doubt the Coonamble Carnival brings a lot of money into the town yet its future surely must be in doubt.

These are troubling times and breeding numbers in NSW are diving at a rate of knots and sustaining non-TAB racing in NSW makes no sense at all.

End Quote

Fewer tracks means fewer opportunities to race slower non-TAB dogs therefore they are retired early because not many trainers are keen to keep them in their kennels many owners are not returning to buy another because theyre struggling to rehome their current dogs which on average is taking more than 12 months to do so.

Dubbo, Gunnedah, Maitland and even WP have occasional ten race programs.. most tracks do. Moree will be having its carnival this weekend. I suggest Peter go and have a look. We can afford to race at non-TAB tracks because it doesnt take much to operate them I wont go over and over the ways to save some money or spread it in different places.

Meanwhile horse racing is amazingly huge and attractive and not one horse track in NSW has been closed.


Mark Donohue
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The last 3 races last Friday night at Wentworth Park ( 2nd Level City Meeting! all 288m racing). If they cut Country meetings out FIRST where are these dogs going to materialise from?

Most Dogs (Pups) are bred & reared in the Country. Not all Breeders/Rearers have their own meat supply? Knackery meat is around $7 per/kilo and rising, along with Kibble, Milk, Fuel, Vitamins, Bedding & Vet bills are soaring. P/M at Provincial & Country tracks need a desperate infusion ASAP (Stop Trainers leaving) City P/M is good.

GRNSW needs to STOP adding extra Group races worth huge P/M and STOP trying to compete with both Vic & Qld.

Mr. Davis lauded the upcoming Auction series at Richmond stating this will provide Incentives to Breeders! YES just ONE - the WINNER!

Has Mr. Davis noticed there are little to no more Country Carnivals, like bygone years? No more major Country Cups? Does he remember the Bull n Barley?

Cut of the Grass Roots and you begin to starve and kill off your product.. it applies to any Business model. When was the last time Mr Davis owned a dog and how well did it do?

I rang GRNSW Friday n today as I needed to ask a clarifying question about re-homing. I left my name and number. Im still waiting for a reply. Heres a tip. Dont press the number to speak with someone in the re-homing section. On the other hand a call to GWIC and you get a prompt response. Every time !



Valerie Glover
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Guys all or most of this discussion is very well put together, But there is it shows a common problem ? The government of all kinds for a number of years have aloud the ANTIS to completly pull down /ruin /close many businesses /industries/ through hungry pollies looking for the greens/ vote . We have week governments of all kind s and look at our country position we are in POOR and going further down the shute?


Sandro Bechini
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Valerie Glover wrote:

Guys all or most of this discussion is very well put together, But there is it shows a common problem ? The government of all kinds for a number of years have aloud the ANTIS to completly pull down /ruin /close many businesses /industries/ through hungry pollies looking for the greens/ vote . We have week governments of all kind s and look at our country position we are in POOR and going further down the shute?

EXTERNAL LINK

At last the Labor Party is working out that the Greens are not a party to be trusted



Mark Staines
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The Greens are representing the "WHY ME GENERATION" and putting there own SPIN ON IT !

Professional Hypocrites IMO !

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