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Malcom,i would say there would be more people than not, who would be more than accepting of any further changes to protect the welfare of our greyhounds & the industry as a whole,even if this means higher rate of swabbing,at the end of the day mate,as I have said before,the changes that have been implemented & any further changes that would be put in place on strengthens our industry & is definitely for the betterment of greyhound racing 110% & if these implemaetations are what it takes to be enable a turn around on recent decisions,then I for one fully & totally support THOSE changes as would most without reservations,cheers mate.
Michael Bowerman Australia (Verified User) Posts 4615 Dogs 11 / Races 0 11 Jul 2016 21:34
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Dan Hollywood wrote:
As there are several threads on the topic, my apologies if already posted, but I think all NSW clubs should get something similar out there. From Face Book.
A snapshot of the industry from the small country town of Temora has been sent to me and I thought I would share it with you:
The Temora club employs and spends the following in the Temora area. Spend $250,000 locally per year Have 32 workers Buy from local business, all stock from petrol, groceries, tractors, lawn mowers, signs, vet, chemicals, electrical, computer services, hardware, Security Rates and water, recycled water The Club recycles paper, cardboard, aluminium, glass Traveling trainers use motels, petrol, food, clubs, pubs Trainers buy all their dogs equipment locally; food, meat, bedding, vitamins etc
Raise money for charities: o Cancer organisations 50,000 o Cystic Fibrosis 5,000 o Temora Hospital- Humidicrib 30,000 o Red Nose Day 2,000
The club runs: o Work For Dole- $100,000 plus o Community Corrections
In our area of 50 kilometres we have: 40 trainers 300 race dogs not counting, pets, puppies, retired greyhounds Also a breaking in centre with an average of 260 dogs at one time, who uses the track for break-ins and petrol and food
If the greyhound Industry closes it will affect the economy of not just Temora but surrounding communities and the lives of trainers, families and their friends.
The unemployment rate will rise in the community.
Business will suffer from the loss of revenue
well done dan this was what i susgested some pages back bbut it was a crap idea, all these revenue has to go to your llegal team, once it added all up it will be close to a billion ddollars, the goverment will loose,
Malcom,i would say there would be more people than not, who would be more than accepting of any further changes to protect the welfare of our greyhounds & the industry as a whole,even if this means higher rate of swabbing,at the end of the day mate,as I have said before,the changes that have been implemented & any further changes that would be put in place on strengthens our industry & is definitely for the betterment of greyhound racing 110% & if these implemaetations are what it takes to be enable a turn around on recent decisions,then I for one fully & totally support THOSE changes as would most without reservations,cheers mate.
Daryl, I would say more people then not, would rather no industry, then racing for ribbons and bows..cheers Mate
Michael Bowerman Australia (Verified User) Posts 4615 Dogs 11 / Races 0 12 Jul 2016 01:33
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Malcolm Smart wrote:
daryl barrett wrote:
Malcom,i would say there would be more people than not, who would be more than accepting of any further changes to protect the welfare of our greyhounds & the industry as a whole,even if this means higher rate of swabbing,at the end of the day mate,as I have said before,the changes that have been implemented & any further changes that would be put in place on strengthens our industry & is definitely for the betterment of greyhound racing 110% & if these implemaetations are what it takes to be enable a turn around on recent decisions,then I for one fully & totally support THOSE changes as would most without reservations,cheers mate.
Daryl, I would say more people then not, would rather no industry, then racing for ribbons and bows..cheers Mate
malcoml u just wont change will u
Mark Donohue Australia (Verified User) Posts 3237 Dogs 6 / Races 0 12 Jul 2016 02:14
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I think you're right, Malcolm. I don't think a lot of people race for ribbons and bows anymore.
Benjamin Lee Miller Australia (Verified User) Posts 103 Dogs 11 / Races 0 12 Jul 2016 02:25
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The people who would not save the industry for vastly reduced prize money are the ones we don't want in the game anyway. Some trainers with a 2% win rate would probably make more from selling participation ribbons anyway.
Mark Donohue Australia (Verified User) Posts 3237 Dogs 6 / Races 0 12 Jul 2016 02:35
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$30 million taken from the industry every year. Therefore, we've been taking a cut for many years. Let's see if the T'Breds will take a cut or race for ribbons n bows.
$30 million taken from the industry every year. Therefore, we've been taking a cut for many years. Let's see if the T'Breds will take a cut or race for ribbons n bows.
save your breath Mark, these johnny come lately's know everything...
Benjamin Lee Miller Australia (Verified User) Posts 103 Dogs 11 / Races 0 12 Jul 2016 02:58
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No these Johnny come lately's (which is my whole life. Third generation) want an industry of the future, not to try and argue for the days of old which are no longer accepted or viable. If we have to take a cut to put money into weeding out the people who want to run this industry the way it has been run in decades past then I say snip snip. Out with the old and in with the new, not just making it viable for years but generations.
How many NSW politicians have been brought before the ICAC or the law courts for criminal offences while in Office and found guilty. The answer is plenty. Therefore applying MR Baird's philosophy even if it is less than 1% (which it isn't) all politicians including himself should be sacked because of association with these people and a whole new parliament elected. Same rule different group of people.
Anthony Jeffress Australia (Verified User) Posts 3669 Dogs 54 / Races 10 12 Jul 2016 03:40
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BENJAMIN LEE MILLER wrote:
No these Johnny come lately's (which is my whole life. Third generation) want an industry of the future, not to try and argue for the days of old which are no longer accepted or viable. If we have to take a cut to put money into weeding out the people who want to run this industry the way it has been run in decades past then I say snip snip. Out with the old and in with the new, not just making it viable for years but generations.
I don't see the point / logic, Benjamin.
Why does it need to be "one or the other"?
As was pointed out, we have been "stiffed" to the tune of millions (per annum) for ages .... It's not a matter of "greed"; I see it being about fairness and justice.
We need to move on from the PERCEPTION of what's happened, as opposed to the REALITY (which as most of us know, is NOWHERE near as bad as the antis will try to have the blind followers believe).
Fair dinkum Malcom,get real mate,if I were you bud,i wouldn't be calling out for a poll on that,it's that sort of attitude( having a whinge about increasing swabs), that is actually detrimental to the cause & detrimental to our wonderful industry,& once again,i would say more people than not would tend to agree with that,maybe it's time to re-think your future mate,atfter all you wouldn't like to know that you have run 2nd to any dog who's trainer has been under hand in anyway,these are the people we don't want/need in this industry,no if's,no but's!Don't forget mate that it is also people like this who have got us into this bloody mess!
Benjamin Lee Miller Australia (Verified User) Posts 103 Dogs 11 / Races 0 12 Jul 2016 04:01
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I have no disagreement that the intercode agreement is unfairly crippling us. I am simply saying that people with the attitude of, if we have to take a cut to fight the fight to keep our industry and weed out those who threaten it being banned again due to bad behavior that tars us all, then why bother. Should do exactly that. Not bother. We need to steady our ship first before we try to fill it with bounty. The fact that the numbers may be vastly over exaggerated do not help, but finding the number is say 2000 per year instead of 4000 will still not be considered acceptable. We have to completely change our ways. It will however put doubt on Baird's competency on the matter which we do need.
Fair dinkum Malcom,get real mate,if I were you bud,i wouldn't be calling out for a poll on that,it's that sort of attitude( having a whinge about increasing swabs), that is actually detrimental to the cause & detrimental to our wonderful industry,& once again,i would say more people than not would tend to agree with that,maybe it's time to re-think your future mate,atfter all you wouldn't like to know that you have run 2nd to any dog who's trainer has been under hand in anyway,these are the people we don't want/need in this industry,no if's,no but's!Don't forget mate that it is also people like this who have got us into this bloody mess!
Daryl, get real maaaaate, I just said we don't need 2nd and 3rd swabbed as well, because this will come out of prizemoney,Our prizemoney is being taxed for all the extra's we need to do now cleaning up the industry , Swab as many WINNERS as you wish,
Fair dinkum Malcom,get real mate,if I were you bud,i wouldn't be calling out for a poll on that,it's that sort of attitude( having a whinge about increasing swabs), that is actually detrimental to the cause & detrimental to our wonderful industry,& once again,i would say more people than not would tend to agree with that,maybe it's time to re-think your future mate,atfter all you wouldn't like to know that you have run 2nd to any dog who's trainer has been under hand in anyway,these are the people we don't want/need in this industry,no if's,no but's!Don't forget mate that it is also people like this who have got us into this bloody mess!
Daryl, get real maaaaate, I just said we don't need 2nd and 3rd swabbed as well, because this will come out of prizemoney,Our prizemoney is being taxed for all the extra's we need to do now cleaning up the industry , Swab as many WINNERS as you wish,
Whats the agenda with extra swabbing at the moment? WHY have extra swabbingnow all of a sudden, whats the point? I dont trust any of these monkeys running us at the moment. I reckon their just trying to catch more trainers out to use it against us!!
John Watts Australia (Verified User) Posts 976 Dogs 7 / Races 6 12 Jul 2016 06:35
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The other thing that needs reinforcing and got Into the media is that every greyhound trainer nsw / Australia has been visited by state compliance officers and that the standards required for the keeping of racing greyhounds is the highest of any dog breed and these standards are being met. Also the training courses required to get licence
How many NSW politicians have been brought before the ICAC or the law courts for criminal offences while in Office and found guilty. The answer is plenty. Therefore applying MR Baird's philosophy even if it is less than 1% (which it isn't) all politicians including himself should be sacked because of association with these people and a whole new parliament elected. Same rule different group of people.
How many NSW National politicians will support the Greens and Animals Australia agenda with Troy Grant their unprincipled leader?not TOO many we hope.
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