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John Staines Australia (Verified User) Posts 3490 Dogs 945 / Races 0 07 Jul 2016 08:59
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thanks George we all have to ban together and get rid of the minister of sport the liberals and the greens they find some bad apples and we all pay for it can some one tell me how they came to a number of twenty percent I would love to know. or was that a kick back for some one to tarnish the greyhound industry more lies I cannot believe the government could swop so lowe and make honest people pay for a few bad apples twenty percent what bull s t.
John Little Australia (Verified User) Posts 56 Dogs 5 / Races 0 07 Jul 2016 09:07
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Greyhound trainers/owners/breeders commit to provide care within the standards laid out by the authorities of the industry. They hold themselves responsible for the continued care of their much loved greyhounds & meet the standards already set. It is not appreciated when they are branded as irresponsible all due to a few who choose to break the required standard level & act illegally in using live bating to enhance their results. In the issues that have come to the fore in the greyhound industry, I personally believe that the waters have been muddied due to the irresponsible decisions made by authorities to ban greyhound industry in NSW. Surely none of this would have eventuated if the governing greyhound body of authority had done its job in monitoring that all trainers/owners/breeders were abiding by the rules & standards of the industry. The outcome is grossly unfair with many responsible people having their livelihoods taken from them in spite of doing the right thing. Legal action maybe the only recourse if the stakes are high enough. NSW government having cut off a huge revenue stream, will they now sell off venues to pay compensation.
yes we have to stay together but screw it.i am angry.a select few greyhound people asked for this inquiry.hang your heads in shame.you were told not to do it yet here we are.
Dan McDonald Australia (Verified User) Posts 402 Dogs 9 / Races 0 07 Jul 2016 09:21
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Sean O'Donnell wrote:
I fronted the Project again with one statement!
Australia wide, unite!
Yes I wore a tie this time!
Well done Sean for having a go, you looked a lot better this time!
John Quarman Australia (Verified User) Posts 236 Dogs 0 / Races 0 07 Jul 2016 09:23
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A Green Maggot in a blue shirt he will die a political death
yes we have to stay together but screw it.i am angry.a select few greyhound people asked for this inquiry.hang your heads in shame.you were told not to do it yet here we are.
Well im in the dark on that one.Didnt know it was a few greyhound people that asked for this inquiry! You dead set twats, hope you feel good.God I would live to give them a mouthful...
Mrs Marien Joy Sullivan Australia (Verified User) Posts 45 Dogs 0 / Races 0 07 Jul 2016 09:37
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Question why did live baiting come out just before election, then just after election this !!! end to greyhound racing, all politics We should make a greyhound racing party. Can ALL CANCEL TAB ACCOUNTS AND CANCEL FOXTELL
Graham Moscow Australia (Verified User) Posts 1186 Dogs 0 / Races 0 07 Jul 2016 09:40
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End of Greyhound racing NSW is devastating enough to all those involved but the compensation of $500 per dog is spiteful, vindictive. I don't believe they haven't done a cost model for trainers they know the true costs. If your a pro trainer that owns or buying there home / property my compensation figure is way higher than $500, I'm no accountant but 25-30k per dog would be a maybe break even compensation. This decision by Cok Hd will not only wreck many good people's lives but it will cost the NSW tax payer big time if justice is achieved.
Sean O'Donnell Australia (Verified User) Posts 4262 Dogs 64 / Races 54 07 Jul 2016 09:42
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Dan McDonald wrote:
Sean O'Donnell wrote:
I fronted the Project again with one statement!
Australia wide, unite!
Yes I wore a tie this time!
Well done Sean for having a go, you looked a lot better this time!
I was at work had more time and paid $50 for a cab to drop off clothes to work and had 15 minutes to change after working 12 hours because I will stand with everyone and fight because it is more than me it is about all of us!
Personal likes or dislikes or agendas are now over!
We should stand as one!
I'm up for the fight!
David Blench Australia (Verified User) Posts 237 Dogs 11 / Races 0 07 Jul 2016 09:45
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Just doing some maths......
If 10,000 pups/racedogs/broodies were surrended and owners given compensation at $500 each that would be $5 million, 10,000 pups/racedogs/broodies were surrended at $1000 each that would be $10 million, 10,000 pups/racedogs/broodies were surrended at $1500 each that would be $15 million,
If 20,000 pups/racedogs/broodies were surrended at $500 each that would be $10 million, 10,000 pups/racedogs/broodies were surrended at $1000 each that would be $20 million, 10,000 pups/racedogs/broodies were surrended at $1500 each that would be $30 million......
How much will the Baird government want to pay in compensation.......I'd say close to $0.00. Add to this greyhound racing in NSW is entitled to 13% TAB turnover for 99 years. Where will this 13% now go? Or will the itercode agreement be convieniently rewritten now? Hypocritical it couldn't be rewritten while greyhound racing was contributing close to 20% of turnover.
Tom Richards Australia (Verified User) Posts 1003 Dogs 0 / Races 0 07 Jul 2016 09:46
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what is 1 wk of not racing supposed to achieve? to me it just gives the system without greyhounds a free hit. EG If TAB revenue is unchanged, it is a huge hit.
Andrew Plasier Australia (Verified User) Posts 1279 Dogs 0 / Races 16 07 Jul 2016 09:48
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I doubt a m8 of mine will accept $500ea,he just spent 20k on a brett lee straw & got 4 pups,theyd b worth closer to 10k ea cause the mum has produced already,their kidding if they think ppl will take that pissy amount.
Kevin Wright Australia (Verified User) Posts 5708 Dogs 1 / Races 1 07 Jul 2016 09:48
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john little wrote:
Greyhound trainers/owners/breeders commit to provide care within the standards laid out by the authorities of the industry. They hold themselves responsible for the continued care of their much loved greyhounds & meet the standards already set. It is not appreciated when they are branded as irresponsible all due to a few who choose to break the required standard level & act illegally in using live bating to enhance their results. In the issues that have come to the fore in the greyhound industry, I personally believe that the waters have been muddied due to the irresponsible decisions made by authorities to ban greyhound industry in NSW. Surely none of this would have eventuated if the governing greyhound body of authority had done its job in monitoring that all trainers/owners/breeders were abiding by the rules & standards of the industry. The outcome is grossly unfair with many responsible people having their livelihoods taken from them in spite of doing the right thing. Legal action maybe the only recourse if the stakes are high enough. NSW government having cut off a huge revenue stream, will they now sell off venues to pay compensation.
Question why did live baiting come out just before election, then just after election this !!! end to greyhound racing, all politics We should make a greyhound racing party. Can ALL CANCEL TAB ACCOUNTS AND CANCEL FOXTELL
The government receive money from the punter .... I stated earlier pools weren't being shown as a cover up on a trend that was clearly happening ... Now only hours after all this hypocritical nonsense ... Nsw pools are back on the rise Hang your heads in shame ... It should sicken you to even consider handing over another dollar to these bastards !!! 1 week no racing !!! Laughable Everyone should nominate to closest borders up or down for a month while unification takes place and legal action takes place for slander !!! Stop betting Nom north and south of the border for as long as it takes If u turn up to nsw track on their accord ... Your a desperate!!!
Ronald George Hunter Australia (Verified User) Posts 4319 Dogs 0 / Races 0 07 Jul 2016 10:14
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Now we know why the report was postponed each time. Because if it was released before the election, the liberals and greenies would have suffered a complete and utter wipeout. Preferences will flow readily now between these two parties. The tracks will be sold off to pay a paltry compensation, and the chinese investments will fund other projects! Yet both parties claim to govern for the people! Bullshit!!! What about the given lies, with the regulations and further cost of kennel constructions etc!
Michael Bowerman Australia (Verified User) Posts 4615 Dogs 11 / Races 0 07 Jul 2016 10:35
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greyhounds born december 2008 to december 2009.
9897 born that year, i say breeding would be at it peak then,
going on those figures , i wont include 2016,
over the past 12 years there where in nsw 118,764 born pups.
minus 68,000 pups put to sleep by the report,
leave 50764 pups made racing,
that leaves 4230 pups to race per year,
with 23 tracks in nsw, times that by twelve races per meeting by 8 dogs per race, thats 276 races, per week, that 2208 dogs a week, so there 2022 sitting at home in the kennels, or spread out over australia. this figure of 68,000 is inpossible, that have been put to sleep over the last twelve years. i reckon they included the rspca figure of dogs that the rspca have put to sleep, rember these pups born each month over the year have to be reared,
Interesting theory put forward tonight. Greyhound racing takes away from gambling in casinos as well. Asians love to bet on the dogs, a thought that just maybe the dogs are in the way of extra funds for someone's major casino development. Very disillusioned with all pollies now. This family has voted Lib for years, no more, wouldn't waste my time voting now, Baird may have won so far, but the biggest loser is democracy. $500 for a dog??? That amount is an insult to the majority of participants. Sit down and add up everything your dogs have cost - it is staggering and as a friend said to me tonight, vets will have to charge a hell of a lot for others treatments if g/h vets because there won't be any to treat. Whatever the reason, I do think that there are wheels within wheels and because there was no leadership Aust. wide, NSW has paid the price.
Anthony Jeffress Australia (Verified User) Posts 3669 Dogs 54 / Races 10 07 Jul 2016 10:43
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Bravo to Sky News (Channel 601) Journalist Paul Murray, for calling Baird out & seeing today's decision for what it is: a shameful grab for land assets; money; & political favour / vote from the Animal Justice nutter in Nsw State Parliament. Will try to find & post it...
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