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Kevin Wright
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10 Oct 2016 07:24


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simon moore wrote:

Kevin Wright wrote:

Mark Schlegel wrote:

andrew plasier wrote:

ray thinks pretty highly of him,not sure everyone would agree,but he's been ok in my book,he mite have jumped the gun on breeding amounts, but now he says 2-3000 a yr,prob need to be a bit higher than that I think.

Brenton Scott would sell the family silver and his soul, rather than actually fight for this industry!
He is doing more damage than good and needs to be muzzled!

Are you kidding me Mark and surely this kind of personal attack and disrespect is just not needed and is pointless and totally uncalled for .

If you are Talking about the Alliance as the whole Group then yes they have had some mayor failings but surely tell me one other person who has stood up and taken on this battle and not only has his Business and his Family had to endure these Months it would of taken a heavy toll on any persons health so i suggest we lay off the Sh1T fighting and if anyone needs a get out of Jail Card then it is Brenton Scott

The man has committed everything into this and when some have made plenty from the industry over the years i can tell you some have not but they have continued behind the scenes for years and maybe this is half of the problem so before we start ripping at BRENTON i urge you all to listen what he said on the RAY HADLEY SHOW ...

Mark didn't you sell up all your dogs and you had moved onto greener pastures many months ago so what is your game play now because from where i sit you are just here to start a sh1t fight ....
Not on Mark


Much of that is correct but the Alliance has to stop with this begging type attitude.

They should not be making guarantees without knowing if they are realistically achievable.

They are missing the whole point imo. We are being victimised unfairly and should be fighting for equality not allowing ourselves to be held on a pedestal way above and beyond other industries.

Tell me why we should?

We are being bullied and you have fight for what is right, not what others tell you is right.

It's acknowledged by most that the evidence and information in the McHugh report is wrong, bias and incorrect.

So why should we be forced to adhere to such strict conditions.

They will be HOLDING AN AXE OVER OUR HEADS and we will never know or see it coming when it comes down. And they will be looking for any remote reasons they can get their grubby hands on, that is a GUARANTEE YOU CAN BET YOUR LIFE ON.


Ok we should consider this
....
GAP Vic adopted almost 1000 dogs .....

GAP Nsw .....??????

The point is this and only this ......ZERO WASTAGE or as close to zero has be be achieved or all of us will be in the same Boat ...

You guy's are once again missing the point ...It is not only NSW who is reforming and wake up because every other State is not complaining and we are all trying to move on and continue to place 100% energy into rehoming and if you guys don't get that by now then i am wasting my time speaking .

The Whole of Australian Racing is under reform and remodeling so Boys best you all get on board or you may just be complaining again because if you guys think things are going to go back to the the way they were then you are all Farken crazy and deluded and I am wasting my time and energy trying to Preach to a bunch of knuckleheads who seem destined to end racing for all of Australia ....

Go about your drama's and once again lets all let the world see this all played out again just like Ground HOG DAY ...

What don't you guys get .....
Greyhound racing will never go back to the days of pure waist and we today are faced with the biggest battle and that is the rehoming of our Greyhounds and you People really need to understand that we need as many people on our side and we are a very very small minority Group so I suggest instead of looking back we look forward and it will be what it will be and its up to us all to make sure we can at least steer the ship along or i am sorry to say the ship will be like the Titanic if you don't all move on now .

Greyhound people all live in a giant BUBBLE and we are all blind to the real world and the truth from the outside because most of us are blind and the World today is a different time then it was just 5 years ago ...

We need Education and understanding and truth and we cannot continue to close our eyes and we must try to rehome every dog or we will be forced into a situation that we will not be able to pull ourselves out from ...




Jason Bolwell
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10 Oct 2016 07:46


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Kevin Wright wrote:

simon moore wrote:

Kevin Wright wrote:

Mark Schlegel wrote:

andrew plasier wrote:

ray thinks pretty highly of him,not sure everyone would agree,but he's been ok in my book,he mite have jumped the gun on breeding amounts, but now he says 2-3000 a yr,prob need to be a bit higher than that I think.

Brenton Scott would sell the family silver and his soul, rather than actually fight for this industry!
He is doing more damage than good and needs to be muzzled!

Are you kidding me Mark and surely this kind of personal attack and disrespect is just not needed and is pointless and totally uncalled for .

If you are Talking about the Alliance as the whole Group then yes they have had some mayor failings but surely tell me one other person who has stood up and taken on this battle and not only has his Business and his Family had to endure these Months it would of taken a heavy toll on any persons health so i suggest we lay off the Sh1T fighting and if anyone needs a get out of Jail Card then it is Brenton Scott

The man has committed everything into this and when some have made plenty from the industry over the years i can tell you some have not but they have continued behind the scenes for years and maybe this is half of the problem so before we start ripping at BRENTON i urge you all to listen what he said on the RAY HADLEY SHOW ...

Mark didn't you sell up all your dogs and you had moved onto greener pastures many months ago so what is your game play now because from where i sit you are just here to start a sh1t fight ....
Not on Mark


Much of that is correct but the Alliance has to stop with this begging type attitude.

They should not be making guarantees without knowing if they are realistically achievable.

They are missing the whole point imo. We are being victimised unfairly and should be fighting for equality not allowing ourselves to be held on a pedestal way above and beyond other industries.

Tell me why we should?

We are being bullied and you have fight for what is right, not what others tell you is right.

It's acknowledged by most that the evidence and information in the McHugh report is wrong, bias and incorrect.

So why should we be forced to adhere to such strict conditions.

They will be HOLDING AN AXE OVER OUR HEADS and we will never know or see it coming when it comes down. And they will be looking for any remote reasons they can get their grubby hands on, that is a GUARANTEE YOU CAN BET YOUR LIFE ON.


Ok we should consider this
....
GAP Vic adopted almost 1000 dogs .....

GAP Nsw .....??????

The point is this and only this ......ZERO WASTAGE or as close to zero has be be achieved or all of us will be in the same Boat ...

You guy's are once again missing the point ...It is not only NSW who is reforming and wake up because every other State is not complaining and we are all trying to move on and continue to place 100% energy into rehoming and if you guys don't get that by now then i am wasting my time speaking .

The Whole of Australian Racing is under reform and remodeling so Boys best you all get on board or you may just be complaining again because if you guys think things are going to go back to the the way they were then you are all Farken crazy and deluded and I am wasting my time and energy trying to Preach to a bunch of knuckleheads who seem destined to end racing for all of Australia ....

Go about your drama's and once again lets all let the world see this all played out again just like Ground HOG DAY ...

What don't you guys get .....
Greyhound racing will never go back to the days of pure waist and we today are faced with the biggest battle and that is the rehoming of our Greyhounds and you People really need to understand that we need as many people on our side and we are a very very small minority Group so I suggest instead of looking back we look forward and it will be what it will be and its up to us all to make sure we can at least steer the ship along or i am sorry to say the ship will be like the Titanic if you don't all move on now .

Greyhound people all live in a giant BUBBLE and we are all blind to the real world and the truth from the outside because most of us are blind and the World today is a different time then it was just 5 years ago ...

We need Education and understanding and truth and we cannot continue to close our eyes and we must try to rehome every dog or we will be forced into a situation that we will not be able to pull ourselves out from ...


Kevin,
You should get a job in politics


Simon Moore
Australia
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10 Oct 2016 08:14


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Kevin Wright wrote:

simon moore wrote:

Kevin Wright wrote:

Mark Schlegel wrote:

andrew plasier wrote:

ray thinks pretty highly of him,not sure everyone would agree,but he's been ok in my book,he mite have jumped the gun on breeding amounts, but now he says 2-3000 a yr,prob need to be a bit higher than that I think.

Brenton Scott would sell the family silver and his soul, rather than actually fight for this industry!
He is doing more damage than good and needs to be muzzled!

Are you kidding me Mark and surely this kind of personal attack and disrespect is just not needed and is pointless and totally uncalled for .

If you are Talking about the Alliance as the whole Group then yes they have had some mayor failings but surely tell me one other person who has stood up and taken on this battle and not only has his Business and his Family had to endure these Months it would of taken a heavy toll on any persons health so i suggest we lay off the Sh1T fighting and if anyone needs a get out of Jail Card then it is Brenton Scott

The man has committed everything into this and when some have made plenty from the industry over the years i can tell you some have not but they have continued behind the scenes for years and maybe this is half of the problem so before we start ripping at BRENTON i urge you all to listen what he said on the RAY HADLEY SHOW ...

Mark didn't you sell up all your dogs and you had moved onto greener pastures many months ago so what is your game play now because from where i sit you are just here to start a sh1t fight ....
Not on Mark


Much of that is correct but the Alliance has to stop with this begging type attitude.

They should not be making guarantees without knowing if they are realistically achievable.

They are missing the whole point imo. We are being victimised unfairly and should be fighting for equality not allowing ourselves to be held on a pedestal way above and beyond other industries.

Tell me why we should?

We are being bullied and you have fight for what is right, not what others tell you is right.

It's acknowledged by most that the evidence and information in the McHugh report is wrong, bias and incorrect.

So why should we be forced to adhere to such strict conditions.

They will be HOLDING AN AXE OVER OUR HEADS and we will never know or see it coming when it comes down. And they will be looking for any remote reasons they can get their grubby hands on, that is a GUARANTEE YOU CAN BET YOUR LIFE ON.


Ok we should consider this
....
GAP Vic adopted almost 1000 dogs .....

GAP Nsw .....??????

The point is this and only this ......ZERO WASTAGE or as close to zero has be be achieved or all of us will be in the same Boat ...

You guy's are once again missing the point ...It is not only NSW who is reforming and wake up because every other State is not complaining and we are all trying to move on and continue to place 100% energy into rehoming and if you guys don't get that by now then i am wasting my time speaking .

The Whole of Australian Racing is under reform and remodeling so Boys best you all get on board or you may just be complaining again because if you guys think things are going to go back to the the way they were then you are all Farken crazy and deluded and I am wasting my time and energy trying to Preach to a bunch of knuckleheads who seem destined to end racing for all of Australia ....

Go about your drama's and once again lets all let the world see this all played out again just like Ground HOG DAY ...

What don't you guys get .....
Greyhound racing will never go back to the days of pure waist and we today are faced with the biggest battle and that is the rehoming of our Greyhounds and you People really need to understand that we need as many people on our side and we are a very very small minority Group so I suggest instead of looking back we look forward and it will be what it will be and its up to us all to make sure we can at least steer the ship along or i am sorry to say the ship will be like the Titanic if you don't all move on now .

Greyhound people all live in a giant BUBBLE and we are all blind to the real world and the truth from the outside because most of us are blind and the World today is a different time then it was just 5 years ago ...

We need Education and understanding and truth and we cannot continue to close our eyes and we must try to rehome every dog or we will be forced into a situation that we will not be able to pull ourselves out from ...


You have just shown why I make a point of not having a discussion with you on anything.
Not worth wasting my energy :)



Kevin Wright
Australia
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10 Oct 2016 19:03


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simon moore wrote:

Kevin Wright wrote:

simon moore wrote:

Kevin Wright wrote:

Mark Schlegel wrote:

andrew plasier wrote:

ray thinks pretty highly of him,not sure everyone would agree,but he's been ok in my book,he mite have jumped the gun on breeding amounts, but now he says 2-3000 a yr,prob need to be a bit higher than that I think.

Brenton Scott would sell the family silver and his soul, rather than actually fight for this industry!
He is doing more damage than good and needs to be muzzled!

Are you kidding me Mark and surely this kind of personal attack and disrespect is just not needed and is pointless and totally uncalled for .

If you are Talking about the Alliance as the whole Group then yes they have had some mayor failings but surely tell me one other person who has stood up and taken on this battle and not only has his Business and his Family had to endure these Months it would of taken a heavy toll on any persons health so i suggest we lay off the Sh1T fighting and if anyone needs a get out of Jail Card then it is Brenton Scott

The man has committed everything into this and when some have made plenty from the industry over the years i can tell you some have not but they have continued behind the scenes for years and maybe this is half of the problem so before we start ripping at BRENTON i urge you all to listen what he said on the RAY HADLEY SHOW ...

Mark didn't you sell up all your dogs and you had moved onto greener pastures many months ago so what is your game play now because from where i sit you are just here to start a sh1t fight ....
Not on Mark


Much of that is correct but the Alliance has to stop with this begging type attitude.

They should not be making guarantees without knowing if they are realistically achievable.

They are missing the whole point imo. We are being victimised unfairly and should be fighting for equality not allowing ourselves to be held on a pedestal way above and beyond other industries.

Tell me why we should?

We are being bullied and you have fight for what is right, not what others tell you is right.

It's acknowledged by most that the evidence and information in the McHugh report is wrong, bias and incorrect.

So why should we be forced to adhere to such strict conditions.

They will be HOLDING AN AXE OVER OUR HEADS and we will never know or see it coming when it comes down. And they will be looking for any remote reasons they can get their grubby hands on, that is a GUARANTEE YOU CAN BET YOUR LIFE ON.


Ok we should consider this
....
GAP Vic adopted almost 1000 dogs .....

GAP Nsw .....??????

The point is this and only this ......ZERO WASTAGE or as close to zero has be be achieved or all of us will be in the same Boat ...

You guy's are once again missing the point ...It is not only NSW who is reforming and wake up because every other State is not complaining and we are all trying to move on and continue to place 100% energy into rehoming and if you guys don't get that by now then i am wasting my time speaking .

The Whole of Australian Racing is under reform and remodeling so Boys best you all get on board or you may just be complaining again because if you guys think things are going to go back to the the way they were then you are all Farken crazy and deluded and I am wasting my time and energy trying to Preach to a bunch of knuckleheads who seem destined to end racing for all of Australia ....

Go about your drama's and once again lets all let the world see this all played out again just like Ground HOG DAY ...

What don't you guys get .....
Greyhound racing will never go back to the days of pure waist and we today are faced with the biggest battle and that is the rehoming of our Greyhounds and you People really need to understand that we need as many people on our side and we are a very very small minority Group so I suggest instead of looking back we look forward and it will be what it will be and its up to us all to make sure we can at least steer the ship along or i am sorry to say the ship will be like the Titanic if you don't all move on now .

Greyhound people all live in a giant BUBBLE and we are all blind to the real world and the truth from the outside because most of us are blind and the World today is a different time then it was just 5 years ago ...

We need Education and understanding and truth and we cannot continue to close our eyes and we must try to rehome every dog or we will be forced into a situation that we will not be able to pull ourselves out from ...


You have just shown why I make a point of not having a discussion with you on anything.
Not worth wasting my energy :)

I say this to anyone who has a problem with me or my posts.....

Don't read my posts if it offends you ...

I don't read much from people who are Pests and Minions to the all mighty .

I dont read post from people i dont like..

This Forum is watched Day and night by many people so i suggest us all staying Positive and in topic so at least to the OUTSIDE WORLD we have harmony from within but we all know thats a LIE don't we ...




Tony Digiorgio
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10 Oct 2016 20:01


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"The Whole of Australian Racing is under reform and remodeling so Boys best you all get on board or you may just be complaining again because if you guys think things are going to go back to the the way they were then you are all Farken crazy and deluded and I am wasting my time and energy trying to Preach to a bunch of knuckleheads who seem destined to end racing for all of Australia ...."

Kevin,
Although I can't disagree with some of the points you have raised I have to disagree with the above one.
The implication that we(I assume you are referring to the people of NSW) will be the ones "destined to end racing for all of Australia" is a little below the belt. Baird's decision was based on animal cruelty shown in footage taken in other states of Australia. We just happened to be the guinea pigs that have had to fight on "everyone's" behalf to eliminate the decision being rolled out into other states. I do not need to quote who the culprits are as that has been well publicised.
How about we leave the I said, you said out of the conversation and see what the future holds going forward if Baird makes the announcement today.



Jamie Quinlivian
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10 Oct 2016 20:27


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Tony, we have all been fighting on your behalf also.

Good luck going forward to all.


Tony Digiorgio
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10 Oct 2016 21:56


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Jamie Quinlivian wrote:

Tony, we have all been fighting on your behalf also.

Good luck going forward to all.

Thanks Jamie. And to you as well.




Kevin Wright
Australia
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11 Oct 2016 00:54


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Tony Digiorgio wrote:

"The Whole of Australian Racing is under reform and remodeling so Boys best you all get on board or you may just be complaining again because if you guys think things are going to go back to the the way they were then you are all Farken crazy and deluded and I am wasting my time and energy trying to Preach to a bunch of knuckleheads who seem destined to end racing for all of Australia ...."

Kevin,
Although I can't disagree with some of the points you have raised I have to disagree with the above one.
The implication that we(I assume you are referring to the people of NSW) will be the ones "destined to end racing for all of Australia" is a little below the belt. Baird's decision was based on animal cruelty shown in footage taken in other states of Australia. We just happened to be the guinea pigs that have had to fight on "everyone's" behalf to eliminate the decision being rolled out into other states. I do not need to quote who the culprits are as that has been well publicised.
How about we leave the I said, you said out of the conversation and see what the future holds going forward if Baird makes the announcement today.


Yep Tony i agree
I through that one in for a bit of debate and conjecture ...
It's great to see an active participation from a lot of new Members on Data .
Let me add this to the mix .
Students and Teens aged from 10 to 21 who have now formed their own opinions and this is where we must ensure we have a greater education and Awareness into these age Groups because they are our Future .
In Schools today there is Debate in regards to Greyhounds and Greyhound racing .
Mostly it's all bad ..

We must ensure we have 100% accountability from Birth to Death and this is number one regardless what some people say this is our only way forward once all the bullsh1t has settled and everyone has had their say ..

I am still waiting for our so called leaders in each State to step up and demand we must change our way of thinking RIGHT NOW ...
I feel we are letting ourselves down if we don't all try to rehome and once again this will stabilise our Industry but this must happen NOW not in 3 months or 6 months time and we do our it to ourselves to ensure we have a future for our Kids as well in the Greyhound industry and if we let this one slip we will all be looking at new direction something that we will not be able to control ..because it will be too late ..




David Grindley
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11 Oct 2016 02:03


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Chris Smith talking with Brenton Scott just now

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David Grindley
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11 Oct 2016 03:06


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Kevin
Your suggestion on education reminds me of 30 odd years ago when I was asked by a friend to bring a couple of racing dogs to her school and have a chat with the kids , from this one visit I ended up visiting nearly every Primary School in the Yarra Valley with numerous requests for retired dogs . Maybe that is something authorities from all States could look at doing from an educational point of view but the way these schools are run at the moment it might be a hard task



Steven Martin
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11 Oct 2016 04:11


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The greyhound ban has officially been reversed

Chris speaks with the CEO of the Greyhound Breeders, Owners and Trainers Association, Brenton Scott ---> EXTERNAL LINK



Steven Martin
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11 Oct 2016 04:12


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Mike Baird on NOW 2GB



Mick Thompson
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steven martin wrote:

Mike Baird on NOW 2GB

Ben Fordham is a dead set fkn lowlife grub.




Kevin Wright
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David Grindley wrote:

Kevin
Your suggestion on education reminds me of 30 odd years ago when I was asked by a friend to bring a couple of racing dogs to her school and have a chat with the kids , from this one visit I ended up visiting nearly every Primary School in the Yarra Valley with numerous requests for retired dogs . Maybe that is something authorities from all States could look at doing from an educational point of view but the way these schools are run at the moment it might be a hard task

David Yes this is what we need to do now ...
We need to work with adoption groups and foster groups and we need to do this right now and people need to start talking about this and EACH CLUB can play an active role in this so i suggest and URGE to every Clubs committee to discuss this at your next meetings .

We cannot all sit back now and it is up to everyone to make sure we have a viable future and it is through EDUCATION that we can achieve the maximum results .



Steven Martin
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11 Oct 2016 19:48


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Tuesday October 11, 2016

Listen to Ross Greenwood - Greyhound Racing Ban Reversal
Ross Greenwood speaks to Luke Foley the NSW Opposition Leader about the greyhound racing ban reversal ---> EXTERNAL LINK





Steven Martin
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Tuesday October 11, 2016

Listen to Ben Fordham Mike Baird Reverses Greyhound Ban
Ben speaks to the NSW Premier ---> EXTERNAL LINK



Steven Martin
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11 Oct 2016 19:51


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Tuesday October 11, 2016

Steve is joined by the Daily Telegraph's Andrew Clennell to talk about Mike Baird's greyhound backflip ---> EXTERNAL LINK



Steven Martin
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JUST A REMINDER....Alan Jones is in ORANGE now doing his show.

TO LISTEN LIVE ---> EXTERNAL LINK



Steven Martin
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Monday November 14, 2016

Listen to Alan Jones Phil Donato

Alan talks to the Shooters, Fishers and Farmers candidate about the massive swing against the NSW government in the Orange by-election ---> EXTERNAL LINK



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I love how Ray Hadley has a way with words!!

Listen to his assessment of the Nationals from the 3.00 minute mark!

I'm still laughing at the Broom head comments!

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