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Johnathon Campbell Australia (Verified User) Posts 4635 Dogs 5 / Races 2 08 Dec 2016 22:46
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Firstly there are a lot of pups to be broken in going forward out of some very nice bitches but like anyone owning a Fernando pup you wait for those early reports and I've been told that some of the early pups have been chasing hard but not fast enough. Yes along way to go and he has to get something with the quality of bitches he's had but on a positive note I heard the My Bro Fabios are flying. It's all early days but that is what I've been told from a very good source.
Mark Mihailovic Australia (Verified User) Posts 698 Dogs 1 / Races 0 09 Dec 2016 02:39
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Heard the same thing about Fernando pups, apparently they're small too.
Definitely some Fabio's flying and doesn't surprise me, lets hope they go on to be quality race dogs like there dad!
Simon Moore Australia (Verified User) Posts 2366 Dogs 32 / Races 393 09 Dec 2016 03:05
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Johnathon campbell wrote:
Firstly there are a lot of pups to be broken in going forward out of some very nice bitches but like anyone owning a Fernando pup you wait for those early reports and I've been told that some of the early pups have been chasing hard but not fast enough. Yes along way to go and he has to get something with the quality of bitches he's had but on a positive note I heard the My Bro Fabios are flying. It's all early days but that is what I've been told from a very good source.
some of the early pups are not fast enough?
I don't know any sire that produces ALL fast ones.
Darren Langley Australia (Verified User) Posts 3159 Dogs 12 / Races 0 09 Dec 2016 03:36
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simon moore wrote:
Johnathon campbell wrote:
Firstly there are a lot of pups to be broken in going forward out of some very nice bitches but like anyone owning a Fernando pup you wait for those early reports and I've been told that some of the early pups have been chasing hard but not fast enough. Yes along way to go and he has to get something with the quality of bitches he's had but on a positive note I heard the My Bro Fabios are flying. It's all early days but that is what I've been told from a very good source.
some of the early pups are not fast enough?
I don't know any sire that produces ALL fast ones.
Lol that's funny.
A bit early to label a stud dog. Let's give him another 6-12 months before we dicide to sack him
Ben George (Verified User) Posts 716 Dogs 2 / Races 2 09 Dec 2016 03:48
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I got my fella home from the breakers today. Fernando x Scissor Queen. Extremely happy
Johnathon Campbell Australia (Verified User) Posts 4635 Dogs 5 / Races 2 09 Dec 2016 05:28
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Darren Langley wrote:
simon moore wrote:
Johnathon campbell wrote:
Firstly there are a lot of pups to be broken in going forward out of some very nice bitches but like anyone owning a Fernando pup you wait for those early reports and I've been told that some of the early pups have been chasing hard but not fast enough. Yes along way to go and he has to get something with the quality of bitches he's had but on a positive note I heard the My Bro Fabios are flying. It's all early days but that is what I've been told from a very good source.
some of the early pups are not fast enough?
I don't know any sire that produces ALL fast ones.
Lol that's funny.
A bit early to label a stud dog. Let's give him another 6-12 months before we dicide to sack him
Darren did you read were I said TWICE (a bit early to judge) and I don't think he has been labeled. I made a point to say (people want to hear good early reports). And Ben FB has had the cream so you will expect to see somthing going forward but if your a breaker and you have litter after litter of pups going through you get an early impression. Fernando chasing hard but times not flash. MBF pups going very well. Remember Bekim bale? Early reports were the foundation of his life as a stud dog. If Fernando can't throw a good one is be surprised and so you both know Darren, Ben I'd probably own more diffrent FB pups then the both of you together so I hope he produces but my favourite pup has been a MBF and from what I've heard Id buy more of them.
Ben George (Verified User) Posts 716 Dogs 2 / Races 2 09 Dec 2016 06:49
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I just mentioned mine thought is was the topic. I really don't care how many pups you have could not give a shit. Maybe you should have started another thread about MBF.
Johnathon Campbell Australia (Verified User) Posts 4635 Dogs 5 / Races 2 09 Dec 2016 07:02
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Ben George wrote:
I just mentioned mine thought is was the topic. I really don't care how many pups you have could not give a shit. Maybe you should have started another thread about MBF.
Sorry Ben I was answering Simons comment but through your name up by accident mate. Your bitch could never be counted as she'd throw to a Siberian husky she's that good a brood bitch. Similuar to Offspringer.
Darren Langley Australia (Verified User) Posts 3159 Dogs 12 / Races 0 09 Dec 2016 08:03
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Johnathon campbell wrote:
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Darren Langley wrote:
simon moore wrote:
Johnathon campbell wrote:
Firstly there are a lot of pups to be broken in going forward out of some very nice bitches but like anyone owning a Fernando pup you wait for those early reports and I've been told that some of the early pups have been chasing hard but not fast enough. Yes along way to go and he has to get something with the quality of bitches he's had but on a positive note I heard the My Bro Fabios are flying. It's all early days but that is what I've been told from a very good source.
some of the early pups are not fast enough?
I don't know any sire that produces ALL fast ones.
Lol that's funny.
A bit early to label a stud dog. Let's give him another 6-12 months before we dicide to sack him
Darren did you read were I said TWICE (a bit early to judge) and I don't think he has been labeled. I made a point to say (people want to hear good early reports). And Ben FB has had the cream so you will expect to see somthing going forward but if your a breaker and you have litter after litter of pups going through you get an early impression. Fernando chasing hard but times not flash. MBF pups going very well. Remember Bekim bale? Early reports were the foundation of his life as a stud dog. If Fernando can't throw a good one is be surprised and so you both know Darren, Ben I'd probably own more diffrent FB pups then the both of you together so I hope he produces but my favourite pup has been a MBF and from what I've heard Id buy more of them.
So how many have you had broken in??
I'm not sure why you are saying you have more than Ben and I put together when this threads about FB pups on the track.
I was haven't a go at you I just said let's give it 6-12 months before we start to bag another stud dog.
I agree this bloke has had the best broodies in the country and would be shocked if he doesn't get some runs a on the board.
Johnathon Campbell Australia (Verified User) Posts 4635 Dogs 5 / Races 2 09 Dec 2016 09:30
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The point of the thread is very simple and that is people always ask if people have heard anything about early pups broken in by new sires an obviously Fernando is being focused on. So what I mentioned and Dan is what is being swung around. The reason I said I probably have more FB pups then you both is VERY SIMPLE as well, I have more invested in FB being a top sire, so I'm not going to make up a bias opinion to appease myself. You said it's too early to BRAND a stud dog but clearly there was no indication in the topic the BRAND FB but only a early report on his pups.
Terry Jordan Australia (Verified User) Posts 6013 Dogs 0 / Races 0 09 Dec 2016 09:41
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They knocked the tripe out of Worth Doing, when he went to stud for a then World Record stud fee! Everyone said I wont pay that, then bagged him for 18 months. Pups started winning, breaking records Yep everyone then said told you so! History repeats itself. Mark M. Whats size got to do with fast dogs? How big was Brett Lee? Yep same as Fernando! Perhaps Mr. Campbell you can name the Breaker, and we can ALL check his capabilities? Gee give them some time!
Johnathon Campbell Australia (Verified User) Posts 4635 Dogs 5 / Races 2 09 Dec 2016 10:59
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Terry Jordan wrote:
They knocked the tripe out of Worth Doing, when he went to stud for a then World Record stud fee! Everyone said I wont pay that, then bagged him for 18 months. Pups started winning, breaking records Yep everyone then said told you so! History repeats itself. Mark M. Whats size got to do with fast dogs? How big was Brett Lee? Yep same as Fernando! Perhaps Mr. Campbell you can name the Breaker, and we can ALL check his capabilities? Gee give them some time!
Lol never heard anyone ask early reports on new sires pups Terry? The breaker? One of the best in the country who has and is breaking group dogs, also bred and owned a few as well. Maybe if he would like to comment just for you Terry he may as he reads this forum and has commented. It's hardly worth telling anyone anything in greyhounds because you have those special few that want to twist things into a negative light Mr Jordon.
Howard Moshinsky USA (Verified User) Posts 886 Dogs 3 / Races 0 09 Dec 2016 14:20
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Darren Langley Australia (Verified User) Posts 3159 Dogs 12 / Races 0 09 Dec 2016 19:01
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Johnathon campbell wrote:
Terry Jordan wrote:
They knocked the tripe out of Worth Doing, when he went to stud for a then World Record stud fee! Everyone said I wont pay that, then bagged him for 18 months. Pups started winning, breaking records Yep everyone then said told you so! History repeats itself. Mark M. Whats size got to do with fast dogs? How big was Brett Lee? Yep same as Fernando! Perhaps Mr. Campbell you can name the Breaker, and we can ALL check his capabilities? Gee give them some time!
Lol never heard anyone ask early reports on new sires pups Terry? The breaker? One of the best in the country who has and is breaking group dogs, also bred and owned a few as well. Maybe if he would like to comment just for you Terry he may as he reads this forum and has commented. It's hardly worth telling anyone anything in greyhounds because you have those special few that want to twist things into a negative light Mr Jordon.
Fair comment from Terry. It's a public forum your saying a breaker said there not that fast?? But you won't say which breaker?
How many FB pups has this breaker broke in? I would have thought not many would have gone to the breakers??
How many FB pups would be over 15minths old?? I wouldn't have thought many.
FB prob has over 1000 pups at a very rough guess and prob less than 5-10% have had any more than 4-5 goes at the breakers.
Terry Jordan Australia (Verified User) Posts 6013 Dogs 0 / Races 0 09 Dec 2016 19:34
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Johnathon campbell wrote:
Terry Jordan wrote:
They knocked the tripe out of Worth Doing, when he went to stud for a then World Record stud fee! Everyone said I wont pay that, then bagged him for 18 months. Pups started winning, breaking records Yep everyone then said told you so! History repeats itself. Mark M. Whats size got to do with fast dogs? How big was Brett Lee? Yep same as Fernando! Perhaps Mr. Campbell you can name the Breaker, and we can ALL check his capabilities? Gee give them some time!
Lol never heard anyone ask early reports on new sires pups Terry? The breaker? One of the best in the country who has and is breaking group dogs, also bred and owned a few as well. Maybe if he would like to comment just for you Terry he may as he reads this forum and has commented. It's hardly worth telling anyone anything in greyhounds because you have those special few that want to twist things into a negative light Mr Jordon.
Johnathon: Plenty of good stud dogs have suffered, because of NEGATIVE rubbish, like the stuff your peddling. He will prove what a dill you are!
Mark Mihailovic Australia (Verified User) Posts 698 Dogs 1 / Races 0 09 Dec 2016 19:37
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Terry Jordan wrote:
They knocked the tripe out of Worth Doing, when he went to stud for a then World Record stud fee! Everyone said I wont pay that, then bagged him for 18 months. Pups started winning, breaking records Yep everyone then said told you so! History repeats itself. Mark M. Whats size got to do with fast dogs? How big was Brett Lee? Yep same as Fernando! Perhaps Mr. Campbell you can name the Breaker, and we can ALL check his capabilities? Gee give them some time!
Size hasn't got anything to do with how fast a dog is Terry so not sure what what your saying. If you read the thread he was just trying to get a gauge of what people have heard or seen in regards to "early reports" and that's the general comment on both sires that I've heard/seen at this "early stage". Don't think anyone was writing the sire off just yet.
Terry Jordan Australia (Verified User) Posts 6013 Dogs 0 / Races 0 09 Dec 2016 19:54
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Mark Mihailovic wrote:
Terry Jordan wrote:
They knocked the tripe out of Worth Doing, when he went to stud for a then World Record stud fee! Everyone said I wont pay that, then bagged him for 18 months. Pups started winning, breaking records Yep everyone then said told you so! History repeats itself. Mark M. Whats size got to do with fast dogs? How big was Brett Lee? Yep same as Fernando! Perhaps Mr. Campbell you can name the Breaker, and we can ALL check his capabilities? Gee give them some time!
Size hasn't got anything to do with how fast a dog is Terry so not sure what what your saying. If you read the thread he was just trying to get a gauge of what people have heard or seen and that's the general comment on both sires that I've heard/seen at this early stage. Don't think anyone was writing the sire off just yet.
Mark: You stand a Sire, the last thing you want or need is bad publicity (unproven) Good manners dictate "if you have nothing good to say , say nothing" That's not aimed at you Mark, Generalisation
Johnathon Campbell Australia (Verified User) Posts 4635 Dogs 5 / Races 2 09 Dec 2016 20:07
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Terry Jordan wrote:
Mark Mihailovic wrote:
Terry Jordan wrote:
They knocked the tripe out of Worth Doing, when he went to stud for a then World Record stud fee! Everyone said I wont pay that, then bagged him for 18 months. Pups started winning, breaking records Yep everyone then said told you so! History repeats itself. Mark M. Whats size got to do with fast dogs? How big was Brett Lee? Yep same as Fernando! Perhaps Mr. Campbell you can name the Breaker, and we can ALL check his capabilities? Gee give them some time!
Size hasn't got anything to do with how fast a dog is Terry so not sure what what your saying. If you read the thread he was just trying to get a gauge of what people have heard or seen and that's the general comment on both sires that I've heard/seen at this early stage. Don't think anyone was writing the sire off just yet.
Mark: You stand a Sire, the last thing you want or need is bad publicity (unproven) Good manners dictate "if you have nothing good to say , say nothing" That's not aimed at you Mark, Generalisation
If a breaker tells you that the Fernandos he's broke in have been good chasers but fairly average on time you don't pipe up and say 'you dill' (maybe you would). People ask for early reports and WE have reported what has been said. Not really hard mate. AND I don't think that Westy or Paul care one bit about early reports nor do I at this stage because they have half a brain but early reports are early reports so relax no one here has decided his fate that I could see.
Terry Jordan Australia (Verified User) Posts 6013 Dogs 0 / Races 0 09 Dec 2016 20:56
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Mark Mihailovic wrote:
Terry Jordan wrote:
They knocked the tripe out of Worth Doing, when he went to stud for a then World Record stud fee! Everyone said I wont pay that, then bagged him for 18 months. Pups started winning, breaking records Yep everyone then said told you so! History repeats itself. Mark M. Whats size got to do with fast dogs? How big was Brett Lee? Yep same as Fernando! Perhaps Mr. Campbell you can name the Breaker, and we can ALL check his capabilities? Gee give them some time!
Size hasn't got anything to do with how fast a dog is Terry so not sure what what your saying. If you read the thread he was just trying to get a gauge of what people have heard or seen and that's the general comment on both sires that I've heard/seen at this early stage. Don't think anyone was writing the sire off just yet.
Mark: You stand a Sire, the last thing you want or need is bad publicity (unproven) Good manners dictate "if you have nothing good to say , say nothing"
Terry Jordan Australia (Verified User) Posts 6013 Dogs 0 / Races 0 09 Dec 2016 21:25
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Johnathon campbell wrote:
Terry Jordan wrote:
Mark Mihailovic wrote:
Terry Jordan wrote:
They knocked the tripe out of Worth Doing, when he went to stud for a then World Record stud fee! Everyone said I wont pay that, then bagged him for 18 months. Pups started winning, breaking records Yep everyone then said told you so! History repeats itself. Mark M. Whats size got to do with fast dogs? How big was Brett Lee? Yep same as Fernando! Perhaps Mr. Campbell you can name the Breaker, and we can ALL check his capabilities? Gee give them some time!
Size hasn't got anything to do with how fast a dog is Terry so not sure what what your saying. If you read the thread he was just trying to get a gauge of what people have heard or seen and that's the general comment on both sires that I've heard/seen at this early stage. Don't think anyone was writing the sire off just yet.
Mark: You stand a Sire, the last thing you want or need is bad publicity (unproven) Good manners dictate "if you have nothing good to say , say nothing" That's not aimed at you Mark, Generalisation
If a breaker tells you that the Fernandos he's broke in have been good chasers but fairly average on time you don't pipe up and say 'you dill' (maybe you would). People ask for early reports and WE have reported what has been said. Not really hard mate. AND I don't think that Westy or Paul care one bit about early reports nor do I at this stage because they have half a brain but early reports are early reports so relax no one here has decided his fate that I could see.
They have gone from "Not fast enough" to now "Fairly Average" You go by everything the Breaker says? Some Dogs improve many lengths AFTER break-in. (Yes I break in my own) And I suspect both Westy and Paul do give a shit about your comments!
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