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Joe O'rourke Ireland (Verified User) Posts 64 Dogs 0 / Races 0 07 Feb 2017 10:15
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Dr Brady's statement has been reposted on Talking Dogs this morning. Instead of talking he should take the timen to read the Act that governs his organisation and get a few facts straight. The opening line is "AN ACT TO PROVIDE FOR THE IMPROVEMENT AND DEVELOPMENT OF THE GREYHOUND INDUSTRY, GREYHOUND RACING AND COURSING AND FOR THE BETTER CONTROL OF GREYHOUND RACE TRACKS AND COURSING GROUNDS". When I went to school "improvement" meant to better something and "development" meant to make it grow and expand. How does closing HX or any other track meet this Statutory duty? If he's not improving (not just financially) and developing then he is in breach of his duty and should be made aware of this. As for the Board they should spend some of their legal fees on finding that the Indecon Report has no legal status and that their duty lies with the Greyhound Industry Act which limits their ability to sell property assets. In fact under Article 16 of the Act the Board are restricted as to how to spend their funds unless for the betterment of the industry - their expenditure for the rezoning application was therefore illegal as it was purely to repay debt and by no means for the purpose of developing greyhound racing. Indecon would never have looked at the intricate legalities of a semi state body in detail but purely at what a private enterprise would do and their recommendations reflect that - the Board should have known their legal constraints and have highlighted that flaw to the Minister immediately after Indecon published. The new CEO may have gone into private industries and forced through an agenda but a public body doesn't have shareholders who are happy to see their stock rising to make a killing, the shareholders here are in for the long haul and have no interest in cashing out, especially for a loss.
Martin James Ireland (Verified User) Posts 1128 Dogs 5 / Races 0 07 Feb 2017 10:29
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We're awash with money. This is an eye opener.I think someone made reference to a person smirking at a meeting. You would be smiling too if you were swimming in this pool.
Lynda Bonner United Kingdom (Team Member) Posts 6240 Dogs 77 / Races 15 07 Feb 2017 10:34
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joe o'rourke wrote:
Dr Brady's statement has been reposted on Talking Dogs this morning. Instead of talking he should take the timen to read the Act that governs his organisation and get a few facts straight. The opening line is "AN ACT TO PROVIDE FOR THE IMPROVEMENT AND DEVELOPMENT OF THE GREYHOUND INDUSTRY, GREYHOUND RACING AND COURSING AND FOR THE BETTER CONTROL OF GREYHOUND RACE TRACKS AND COURSING GROUNDS". When I went to school "improvement" meant to better something and "development" meant to make it grow and expand. How does closing HX or any other track meet this Statutory duty? If he's not improving (not just financially) and developing then he is in breach of his duty and should be made aware of this. As for the Board they should spend some of their legal fees on finding that the Indecon Report has no legal status and that their duty lies with the Greyhound Industry Act which limits their ability to sell property assets. In fact under Article 16 of the Act the Board are restricted as to how to spend their funds unless for the betterment of the industry - their expenditure for the rezoning application was therefore illegal as it was purely to repay debt and by no means for the purpose of developing greyhound racing. Indecon would never have looked at the intricate legalities of a semi state body in detail but purely at what a private enterprise would do and their recommendations reflect that - the Board should have known their legal constraints and have highlighted that flaw to the Minister immediately after Indecon published. The new CEO may have gone into private industries and forced through an agenda but a public body doesn't have shareholders who are happy to see their stock rising to make a killing, the shareholders here are in for the long haul and have no interest in cashing out, especially for a loss.
A very interesting post Joe.
Kieran O Brien Ireland (Verified User) Posts 206 Dogs 29 / Races 1 07 Feb 2017 13:37
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joe o'rourke wrote:
Dr Brady's statement has been reposted on Talking Dogs this morning. Instead of talking he should take the timen to read the Act that governs his organisation and get a few facts straight. The opening line is "AN ACT TO PROVIDE FOR THE IMPROVEMENT AND DEVELOPMENT OF THE GREYHOUND INDUSTRY, GREYHOUND RACING AND COURSING AND FOR THE BETTER CONTROL OF GREYHOUND RACE TRACKS AND COURSING GROUNDS". When I went to school "improvement" meant to better something and "development" meant to make it grow and expand. How does closing HX or any other track meet this Statutory duty? If he's not improving (not just financially) and developing then he is in breach of his duty and should be made aware of this. As for the Board they should spend some of their legal fees on finding that the Indecon Report has no legal status and that their duty lies with the Greyhound Industry Act which limits their ability to sell property assets. In fact under Article 16 of the Act the Board are restricted as to how to spend their funds unless for the betterment of the industry - their expenditure for the rezoning application was therefore illegal as it was purely to repay debt and by no means for the purpose of developing greyhound racing. Indecon would never have looked at the intricate legalities of a semi state body in detail but purely at what a private enterprise would do and their recommendations reflect that - the Board should have known their legal constraints and have highlighted that flaw to the Minister immediately after Indecon published. The new CEO may have gone into private industries and forced through an agenda but a public body doesn't have shareholders who are happy to see their stock rising to make a killing, the shareholders here are in for the long haul and have no interest in cashing out, especially for a loss.
Very accurate and fair comment.....even cancelling a meeting is refusal of income its insanity....further damaging the reputation of the sport....only thing it growing is more financial burden as all igb wages are to be paid with loss of revenue from a meeting...ridiculous
Alan, I'm not nit picking and want total unity within the the industry. BUT , the headline of this thread is "SAVE HX join the DGOBA PICKET on SP". Many decent people would never cross a PICKET line but would pass by a protest. I for one don't want the support for this movement to weaken so please don't call this uprising a protest . While I know the definition of a PICKET is usually , NO ONE SHALL PASS. I have no problem with stadium staff turning up for work.Bar staff etc. The more it costs the IGB to have NO racing the better.The people we want to ask not to cross are the owners and trainers. So are we having what the title of this thread suggests a PICKET or is it a protest ? In my opinion we have been protesting for too many years and this movement only has the momentum it has because it's a PICKET and not a protest. DON'T weaken now . When was the last time a Senator made contact with anyone in the industry to ask what is going on in the IGB ?
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It seems some may have misunderstood my last post. My post is for staff to turn up for work on Saturday afternoon, assuming the Stadium is open for Racing. I have had Members of SIPTU enquiring as to their position regards passing a picket. This is not a strike, it is a protest. A show of strength from the GOBAS and Owners, Breeders and Trainers. We want the Minister to see for himself the support this campaign has from the whole industry. I have encouraged the Board to open the Stadium on Saturday, that way we have a place to hold our protest and the Minister to witness the scenario. The more publicity we generate the sooner the Board will receive a strong message from the Minister. By closing the Stadium the Board are avoiding a lot of bad publicity. So they feel they are winning. As the CEO done last Saturday by closing the Stadium he prevented approximately 2000 people from showing the Public the strength of the campaign. The Board have two choices, Open and be dammed, Close and be dammed. The choice is theirs. SO PLEASE, NO SURRENDER. ONWARDS WE GO. SATURDAY NIGHT IS ON AS FAR AS FAR AS WE ARE CONCERNED. Watch this Space. Alan Redmond. PRO DGOBA,
Alan Redmond Ireland (Verified User) Posts 456 Dogs 0 / Races 0 07 Feb 2017 16:36
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Hi Liam, That's fits just fine. What we are having is a Picket placed on Shelbourne Park on Saturday. We await a decision from the CEO on next Saturday. Hopefully he wont do what he done last week, leave it to the last minute to cancel. I spoke to an elderly couple in Harolds Cross on Tuesday night, they had travelled from the Northside getting two buses to attend racing at Shelbourne Park. Only to find the stadium closed. If the CEO could announce his plans tomorrow or Thursday we can relay the news to the odd patron of both tracks at Harolds Cross on Friday night.
Richard Newell Ireland (Verified User) Posts 1268 Dogs 22 / Races 0 07 Feb 2017 17:14
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If the IGB deemed last week's protest as a welfare issue why would this Saturday's protest be any different? Surely it will be called off again. Anyone that now holds a protest including antis that protest at a dog track the IGB will call off the meeting on welfare grounds. Has a precedent been set?
Dave Cunningham Ireland (Verified User) Posts 2081 Dogs 0 / Races 0 07 Feb 2017 18:23
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The CEO has put himself in a very embarrassing situation due to his hurtful and uncalled for remarks regarding the welfare of our greys, as the above post states why would this Picket be different? Time for the CEO to play his Ace card or suffer more humiliation from the pack.
Lynda Bonner United Kingdom (Team Member) Posts 6240 Dogs 77 / Races 15 07 Feb 2017 18:50
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There are many folk wondering why Saturday night's card wasn't run on the next available race night i.e. Thursday
Barry Drake Ireland (Verified User) Posts 275 Dogs 39 / Races 0 07 Feb 2017 18:58
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Hopefully there will be racing on Saturday night.
Some disaster having no racing last week especially for people with greyhounds in the semi-final of the Best Car Parks Gold Cup.
Peter Crawford Ireland (Verified User) Posts 3169 Dogs 95 / Races 0 07 Feb 2017 19:05
Alan Redmond Ireland (Verified User) Posts 456 Dogs 0 / Races 0 08 Feb 2017 00:06
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DGOBA committee members held a meeting in Harolds Cross. Saturday Picket at Shelbourne Park discussed in great detail, outcome of discussions, meet at Shelbourne Park at 3pm next Saturday. During the week All members of the committee had been approached by both members and non members of the DGOBA regarding the CEO's most disgusting posting on Talking Dogs. There were reports from all over the Country complaining of the content of Dr. Brady's post. Many of these people believe Dr. Brady have has no understanding of the Greyhound Man and his Dogs. They feel they have been branded as thugs who would do harm to our beloved dogs. We call upon The Irish Greyhound Board to request Dr. Brady to submitt his resignation forthwith. Failure of him to do so should result in The Irish Greyhound Board dismissing him instantly. It is perfectly obvious that after only 23 days in the job this gentleman had formed a bad opinion of members of the industry with whom he was expected to work with. Based on this we feel there is no place at the head of our Industry for a gentleman with Dr. Brady's attitude. The DGOBA look forward to seeing you all on Saturday Next at Shelbourne Park.
Mark Anthony O Grady Ireland (Verified User) Posts 88 Dogs 0 / Races 0 08 Feb 2017 06:44
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I couldn't agree more, the first thing Dr. Brady should have done is to engage in "open dialogue" with the parties who are responsible for our industry,,,,,Yes that's us Mr. Brady, the owners & breeders!!
The IGB Board might be dismantling our sport from the top down ,,,,, just remember it is we who built it from the ground up.
Your comments Mr. Brady are a disgrace and show you are not fit for purpose, it's time for you to go.
Lynda Bonner United Kingdom (Team Member) Posts 6240 Dogs 77 / Races 15 08 Feb 2017 12:27
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Interesting to see a resurgence of the electronic Save Hx petition on FB. An electronic message about Saturdays picket had been sent out out to the 1,000 plus people who had signed it before the IGB's failed rezoning application of Hx about 9 months ago and without active promotion more people are signing it. Currently there are over 1,200 signatures. This topic on GD has almost 40,000 views now.
I hope that the relative silence from the IGB for the last few working days means they are working on a solution with the relevant stakeholders.
We are now midweek and Saturday will be upon us before we know it.
Martin James Ireland (Verified User) Posts 1128 Dogs 5 / Races 0 08 Feb 2017 12:57
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The only stake holders they want to sit down with are those with steak knives sitting across from them in the restaurants some might say.
Alan Quinn Ireland (Verified User) Posts 467 Dogs 1 / Races 0 08 Feb 2017 16:40
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I have no interest in seeing ministers , board members or the ceo. If our owners instruct their trainers management will have no choice but to call off again. We supply the tools to make this sport work no dogs no racing. The confusion this week has been cleared up and its quite clear we do not want anyone to pass picket. The top track in country without racing two weeks in a row is enough of a show of strength as the dogs coming to shel on a sat night are from the 4 corners of our country.That is a statementin itself. Those who do pass should know they will weaken our position and possibly extend the lenght of this dispute which will then cause division amongst the good people of our industry. The igb are playing hard ball we need to stay together.
Barry Drake Ireland (Verified User) Posts 275 Dogs 39 / Races 0 08 Feb 2017 19:39
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So do any of the people posting on here actually have a runner in Shelbourne Park on Saturday night?
Alan Redmond Ireland (Verified User) Posts 456 Dogs 0 / Races 0 08 Feb 2017 20:14
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The Board have requested through a third party that the DGOBA cancel the protest for the Awards ceremony. In return they would cancel the nights Racing. Unfortunately we are not in a position to adhere to their wishes as we have a commitment to our Members, Supporters and the Country Wide GOBAS who have committed to Support our cause. The time for discussion was last week in the Maudlings Hotel when we went to meet the new CEO. At that meeting Dr. Brady made it quite clear that he would close Harolds Cross, End of Story. We reported to our committee and it was a unanimous decision to fight to the end to save our Stadium. Based on that commitment we intend to continue to carry on with our campaign on behalf of Harolds Cross supporters. There will be no turning back, we will march on until the IGB have the wisdom to keep our Stadium OPEN for Greyhound Racing. There are plenty more sites for the Property Developers. I will keep you updated on proceedings. Yours in Sport. Alan Redmond. PRO.DGOBA Director. Harolds Cross Greyhound Stadium, (The Premier Stadium in Dublin 6w)
Dave Cunningham Ireland (Verified User) Posts 2081 Dogs 0 / Races 0 08 Feb 2017 20:37
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Alan, You are an Auctioneer, how much would Shelbourne park make tomorrow morning if it were put on the market?
Do you have questions about greyhound racing?
