kevin gordon wrote:

Hello Anthony The Alliance was put together within 24hrs of The Governments anouncement that they intended to close our industry. The Alliance had only one mission and that was to fight the Government and have the decision reversed. When The Premier made the statement "we got it wrong" our job was basically done. The Premier also at the time put together a Reform Panel headed by former Labor Premier Morris Iemma to put together with industry consultation recommendations for new legislation to replace existing. The Alliance has no power or controll over that group or GRNSW. We have however put forward a lengthy response to The Racing Minister Paul Toole regarding the Reform Panel's recommendations as I hope most partisapants have. Kevin

Labor Premier Morris Iemma to put together with industry consultation recommendations for new legislation to replace existing

The Alliance has no power or controll over that group or GRNSW.

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With industry consultation ???

No controll over the group or GRNSW ???

Noel

The Government had full control at that point.

The legislation to ban was passed, it was their decision to leave the industry banned or to repeal.

They repealed but one of the conditions was to receive a report from the Panel that was set up.

They had the full power and discretion to decide who was or wasn't on the Panel.

I don't know whether the Alliance or GRNSW had any input at that point to nominate panel members, but it appears not.

Maybe they should have had more say on who the panel members should have been, but I guess the Government wanted it to be as an independent as possible.

I think we needed a recognized Greyhound Vet and a leading Greyhound breeder or trainer on the panel to balance it a bit.

It seems apparent that that this "decision" / agreement was - at least initially - suppressed from the industry; some Clubs; and - critically - many private DONORS who contributed in good faith toward the "advertised cause".

Am I imagining it, or wasn't one of - if not THE primary (and stated) purpose - of seeking funding, to contest the McHugh Report and its findings?

Has the BANNING of greyhound racing in NSW been officially repealed in Parliament, and we somehow missed it? (I think not).

Someone has mentioned to me in light of this: Perhaps the following may be a somewhat "interesting read"???

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Also interesting in another thread on here (magically updated after weeks of inactivity) that "The Alliance" presumably now thinks "their job is done". BUT, at the same time, defers some of the "ongoing issues" back to their "parent body" (which I can assume is the NSW GBOTA). Maybe no-one told the Government or media; who together - as far as I can tell - have continued to refer to "The Alliance" (note: NOT the NSWGBOTA) as the "industry representatives" ???

I'm no legal scholar, but should we be reminded of a quote from one W.Shakespeare, in "Hamlet" ...

"Something is rotten in the state of Denmark"...

Hmmmmmm ......

(Pawnote: I will now await the normal barrage of criticism from the usual suspects).

The ban will be repealed once Mr tool and the sucks on the committee put into place ALL their rules and regulations that they have thrown together,wont be much in it from the participants that have sent in emails,mark my words

Robert Borsak

If nobody has the guts to fix the unfair inter-code agreement, we want to see an extra $150m for the NSW Greyhound Racing Industry.

If Minister Paul Toole, John Barilaro and the National Party of Australia won't genuinely stand up for the industry - we will.

The greyhound racing industry must be financially viable if it is to continue long into the future.

Just repealing the ban but leaving them broke isn't good enough.

NSW politics: Crossbenchers warn $150m or we block dogs vote
Andrew Clennell, State Political Editor, The Daily Telegraph
March 8, 2017 12:00am
Subscriber only

MIRANDA DEVINE: Dog racing ban has been a terrible mistake
Federal Court challenge to overturn Baird Government ban

CROSSBENCHERS are threatening to block the greyhound racing ban reversal unless the Berejiklian government coughs up tens of millions of dollars to help the industry reform.

Shooters MPs Robert Brown and Robert Borsak say they and the Christian Democrats want the government to provide $30 million a year for five years for the reforms, including an integrity commission.

Without that money, the Shooters and Christian Democrats will block the reversal meaning the ban previously passed by parliament, would come into effect on July 1.
Mr Borsak has issued a threat that hell block the greyhound ban Bill. Hes pictured with an elephant he shot and killed in Africia.

The Shooters MPs issued the threat to Racing Minister Paul Toole in a recent meeting ahead of the governments response to the Iemma report setting out a way forward for the industry, including the planned establishment of a Greyhound Welfare and Integrity Commission.

Greyhound racing ban: Protesters slam Judas Bairds dog backflip

Should the Shooters and Christian Democrats refuse to pass the reversal laws, the government would then have to rely on either Labor who would also be likely to request financial support for the industry or the Greens and Animal Justice Party MP Mark Pearson, who oppose the ban being reversed.

The government is set to table its response to the Iemma report in the next few weeks. Former premier Morris Iemma and his panel recommended last month that a commission be set up and that increased penalties be put in place for live baiting and animal cruelty.

To keep the industry alive, the government must legislate before the last parliamentary sitting day of the financial year, June 22.

Editorial: No shame in greyhound ban compromise

Were insisting (there be) an extra $30 million on top of the welfare money to make sure the greyhound industry get through the restructure so it can still function, Mr Brown said, adding he had asked Mr Toole at their meeting to change the racing intercode agreement to give the greyhound racing industry more money but was told this could not happen.

In which case we said theyre going to need at least $30 million a year over three to five years, Mr Brown said.

Mr Borsak added: The industry needs $200 million of track upgrades, saying the government should assist with that funding because it was clear the design of some tracks was causing dog injuries.

The pair said if the industry was not provided with more money to make the changes required by the government, the outcome would be a stitch-up.

Christian Democrat Fred Nile agreed, saying he and the Shooters would move amendments because he believed the industry had been given a path forward that it could not afford.

Mr Toole said in a statement: The panels report has canvassed a number of options to ensure the greyhound industry is financially self-sustaining.

These matters, along with the reports other recommendations, will be considered as the government develops its response.

As Minister for Racing, I am absolutely committed to the future of the greyhound industry.

TO THE ALLIANCE,Please take note this is how its done and should have been since day dot.Here are people that have a backbone and dont run SCARED,The sooner the ALLIANCE and the GBOTA are out of the picture the BETTER then maybe the industry can get back to some normality with the right people taking the lead.

GO THE FFS PARTY and their allies

take note Brenton scott. this is the approach needed, fight for us for gods sake.

Maybe, just maybe, that could be the "150 million dollar question", Terry ....

The biggest problem for all will be trying to TAKE BACK OUR INDUSTRY ...

This must happen at the grass roots LEVEL and we all seen just how powerful SOCIAL MEDIA swayed things in our favour...

We were all TOLD to REMAIN QUIET...
This approach has not worked and can never work and if we continue on believing that the big end of town has things covered .

The very same people who were here before live baiting are still all there today on all levels in our Industry and maybe these are the people we need REMOVED so then at least we get a fair and balanced representation throughout the whole INDUSTRY .

We are still being told LIE'S

We are still being treated like CRIMINALS..

We are still being DISCRIMINATED against .

We are still using Lies and deceit within the INDUSTRY and we all have many examples of the pathetic approach TPB now Take on so many levels to participants ...

Shannon Boyd Phillip I agree 1000% with what you's are trying to do and hope it works , Just hoping it don't back fire and leave the greyhound ban not reversed.
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Philip Donato
Philip Donato Hi Shannon,
We need to ensure that the industry is viable and sustainable otherwise the govt will try and kill the industry off by the starving of funding. Need to lobby the govt. we've meet with Mr Toole and expressed our position. Must keep up the pressure.

i,m hoping this don,t blow up in our face!
the government is trying to implement new gun laws.Is this the shooters and fishers way of getting these new gun laws off the table?
the way i see the Borsak vs Libs going
Libs-"How can we get your vote on the greyhound repeal ban if we don't give them any money"
Borsak-"We wont the new gun laws not to pass through parliament"
Libs-"DEAL"

Don't trust any politician they are only out to get what suits them.We are just a pawn in their game.

Trust me the government will not intervene in the TAB-INTERCODE agreement.
our only hope is to get more TAX income

Noel McCaskie wrote:

Mick Thompson wrote: Worth The Read Robert Borsak If nobody has the guts to fix the unfair inter-code agreement, we want to see an extra $150m for the NSW Greyhound Racing Industry. If Minister Paul Toole, John Barilaro and the National Party of Australia won't genuinely stand up for the industry - we will. The greyhound racing industry must be financially viable if it is to continue long into the future. Just repealing the ban but leaving them broke isn't good enough. NSW politics: Crossbenchers warn $150m or we block dogs vote Andrew Clennell, State Political Editor, The Daily Telegraph March 8, 2017 12:00am Subscriber only MIRANDA DEVINE: Dog racing ban has been a terrible mistake Federal Court challenge to overturn Baird Government ban CROSSBENCHERS are threatening to block the greyhound racing ban reversal unless the Berejiklian government coughs up tens of millions of dollars to help the industry reform. Shooters MPs Robert Brown and Robert Borsak say they and the Christian Democrats want the government to provide $30 million a year for five years for the reforms, including an integrity commission. Without that money, the Shooters and Christian Democrats will block the reversal meaning the ban previously passed by parliament, would come into effect on July 1. Mr Borsak has issued a threat that hell block the greyhound ban Bill. Hes pictured with an elephant he shot and killed in Africia. The Shooters MPs issued the threat to Racing Minister Paul Toole in a recent meeting ahead of the governments response to the Iemma report setting out a way forward for the industry, including the planned establishment of a Greyhound Welfare and Integrity Commission. Greyhound racing ban: Protesters slam Judas Bairds dog backflip Should the Shooters and Christian Democrats refuse to pass the reversal laws, the government would then have to rely on either Labor who would also be likely to request financial support for the industry or the Greens and Animal Justice Party MP Mark Pearson, who oppose the ban being reversed. The government is set to table its response to the Iemma report in the next few weeks. Former premier Morris Iemma and his panel recommended last month that a commission be set up and that increased penalties be put in place for live baiting and animal cruelty. To keep the industry alive, the government must legislate before the last parliamentary sitting day of the financial year, June 22. Editorial: No shame in greyhound ban compromise Were insisting (there be) an extra $30 million on top of the welfare money to make sure the greyhound industry get through the restructure so it can still function, Mr Brown said, adding he had asked Mr Toole at their meeting to change the racing intercode agreement to give the greyhound racing industry more money but was told this could not happen. In which case we said theyre going to need at least $30 million a year over three to five years, Mr Brown said. Mr Borsak added: The industry needs $200 million of track upgrades, saying the government should assist with that funding because it was clear the design of some tracks was causing dog injuries. The pair said if the industry was not provided with more money to make the changes required by the government, the outcome would be a stitch-up. Christian Democrat Fred Nile agreed, saying he and the Shooters would move amendments because he believed the industry had been given a path forward that it could not afford. Mr Toole said in a statement: The panels report has canvassed a number of options to ensure the greyhound industry is financially self-sustaining. These matters, along with the reports other recommendations, will be considered as the government develops its response. As Minister for Racing, I am absolutely committed to the future of the greyhound industry. TO THE ALLIANCE,Please take note this is how its done and should have been since day dot.Here are people that have a backbone and dont run SCARED,The sooner the ALLIANCE and the GBOTA are out of the picture the BETTER then maybe the industry can get back to some normality with the right people taking the lead. GO THE FFS PARTY and their allies

I will follow and trust those who fight for ALL OUR RIGHTS AS PARTICIPANTS,I will never suck up to those who try and lead me and others down the garden path,in the END we will see the right out come for the WHOLE INDUSTRY not just for the select FEW AS IT BE

listen to this mate.10.20 min mark on
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