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James Saunders Australia (Verified User) Posts 4644 Dogs 3 / Races 3 01 Aug 2017 22:21
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maitland Thursday no reserves.Two seven dog fields.
Bruce Teague Australia (Verified User) Posts 2092 Dogs 0 / Races 0 03 Aug 2017 22:40
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Ryan, I recall that when a certain trainer threw the toys out of the cot and decamped from Qld to NSW he then stated that Maitland was the world's best ever track.
Why? Well, at the time he had a collection of really smart dogs which were very good beginners and liked races up to 450m. So they killed them at Maitland.
A good track is one where you can win - trainer or punter.
Second story. One of the most famous club managers in the country (called secretaries then) reacted to my query about the integrity of his track. "They will be alright if they nick out in front".
Third story. Out of the mouth of babes. I used to often sit next to a pretty sensible guy in the Clubtab. He did not really have a clue about greyhound racing but liked a bit of fun putting $2 bets on Exotic combinations - all based on the numbers. His question to me was about Ipswich 431m: "Why don't they do something about that start". It was the only trip that he refused to bet on.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder - and the bloke who places his dogs well.
Kev Galloway Australia (Verified User) Posts 2447 Dogs 5 / Races 0 04 Aug 2017 01:09
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Michael Geraghty wrote:
Terry Jordan wrote:
Michael Geraghty wrote:
Terry Jordan wrote:
Michael Geraghty wrote:
Albion Park Greyhounds will be no more unless God intervenes.
YOU CALLED ME MICHAEL! WHAT CAN I DO FOR YOU MY SON?
I want an ARK please. Enough room to house my doggies, enough food and beverages to last until the next life. I would like you to then open the skies and let it pour until the cleansing is complete. Then start again and GET IT RIGHT, because you stuffed up this chapter.
Oh, I forgot...can I please have 2 Thai princesses to have as company, please? An ark can be a lonely and confusing place sometimes.
GOD: Here Michael, Yes I apologise unreservedly for my mistakes. Firstly: The rib I used from Adam, was obviously Cancerous or Fractured. (See the results) Michael you need to build your own ARK! (Or use "Work for the Dole Participants") Good luck there. Now Michael over thousands of years, and thousands of Ark's being built. No ones Built one BIG enough for 2 "WOMEN TO CO-HABITATE HAPPILY". Scrap that idea! (Go with the Latex-Rubber alternative) Mal Cuneo will give you advise if you go that ROUTE! The Rains are coming.......Start The Building
Now RQ: Michael cant help you there! These people (RQ) Sold their Souls to the Devil many years ago. Full of Corruption, Graft, Collusion, now all engraved and endemic beyond even GOD! Beware of the Sale of Albion Park!(Akin to a Pack of Crocs ready to gnaw on the Arse of a Wildebeest)or Greyhound.
BTW. Please apologise to the good of people NSW as I never meant to Impregnate QLD with so many Champions. Lewis,Meninga,Lockyer,Langer,Myles,Smith,Cronk,Thurston,Scott,Slater,Shearer,Boyd,Beetson and 200 others Yes Michael I stuffed up! GOD
Funny guy, God. There is no reason to apologise for creating a perfect cockroach steamroller. Always wondered why Cuneo smelt like rubber...thought he was just a hoon.
I see Albion Weds have 6 races with no reserves and 2 races with just one. That's a little scary.
Albion Monday 4 races no reserve another 3 races with one and the same reserve.
Terry Jordan Australia (Verified User) Posts 6021 Dogs 0 / Races 0 04 Aug 2017 01:11
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Not quite Bruce! he decamped as a protest to the FOL. Still his dogs did come back and win feature races with another trainer. Love to race mine at Geelong (Outside track) 20hr trip e/way! Gotta take whats in front of us, unfortunately
Geoffrey Monish Australia (Verified User) Posts 61 Dogs 0 / Races 0 04 Aug 2017 03:39
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No shortage at The Gardens Friday 56 5th grade noms 400m 47 5th grade noms 515m Sat. 97 5th grade noms 400m 49 5th grade noms 515m
Steven Martin Australia (Verified User) Posts 7681 Dogs 180 / Races 66 04 Aug 2017 07:06
Steven Martin Australia (Verified User) Posts 7681 Dogs 180 / Races 66 04 Aug 2017 07:12
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Bulli Saturday 4 races - full fields - 2 reserves 3 races - full fields - 1 reserve 3 races - 7 starters - 2 are maidens - 2 already with scratching. No races for 3 Grade dogs plus.
Steven Martin Australia (Verified User) Posts 7681 Dogs 180 / Races 66 04 Aug 2017 07:18
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Bathurst Monday 3 races - full fields - 2 reserves. 2 races - full fields - 1 reserves. 6 races - no reserve. No races for 3 Grade dogs - plus.
Steven Martin Australia (Verified User) Posts 7681 Dogs 180 / Races 66 04 Aug 2017 07:22
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Nowra Monday 5 races - full fields - 2 reserves 1 race - full field - 1 reserve 5 races - full fields - no reserves. no races for 3 Grade dogs - plus
Steven Martin Australia (Verified User) Posts 7681 Dogs 180 / Races 66 04 Aug 2017 07:24
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Goulburn Tuesday. Every race full fields + reserves. No races for 3 Grade dogs - plus
Steven Martin Australia (Verified User) Posts 7681 Dogs 180 / Races 66 04 Aug 2017 07:25
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Grafton Monday. Every race full fields + reserves. No races for 3 Grade dogs - plus
Steven Martin Australia (Verified User) Posts 7681 Dogs 180 / Races 66 04 Aug 2017 07:32
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Lismore Tuesday 5 Full Fields - 2 reserves. 3 Full fields - no reserves. 2 Races - 7 starters. 1 420m N/G. No races over 520m for 3 Grade dogs - plus.
Steven Martin Australia (Verified User) Posts 7681 Dogs 180 / Races 66 04 Aug 2017 07:37
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Gosford Tuesday. 10 Full fields - 2 reserves 1 Full field - no reverse. No races over 515m for 4th Grades dogs PLUS.
Steven Martin Australia (Verified User) Posts 7681 Dogs 180 / Races 66 04 Aug 2017 07:45
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Good time to own a GREYHOUND in NSW, that has gone through the Grades & is now a 3rd Grader or higher.
The grading system needs a major tweak.....especially with the lack of greyhounds whelped over the last 24 months.
Steven Martin Australia (Verified User) Posts 7681 Dogs 180 / Races 66 04 Aug 2017 08:03
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steven martin wrote:
Good time to own a GREYHOUND in NSW, that has gone through the Grades & is now a 3rd Grader or higher.
The grading system needs a major tweak.....especially with the lack of greyhounds whelped over the last 24 months.
There's 4 country race meeting on Saturday - Lithgow Cowra Wauchope Broken Hill
Not ONE Top Grade race over 506m, 453m, 457m distances. 4th Grade best value.
Good time to own a good dog that's 3rd grade or higher.
Darryn McGreevy United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 245 Dogs 0 / Races 0 04 Aug 2017 19:44
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Bruce Teague wrote:
Ryan, I recall that when a certain trainer threw the toys out of the cot and decamped from Qld to NSW he then stated that Maitland was the world's best ever track.
Why? Well, at the time he had a collection of really smart dogs which were very good beginners and liked races up to 450m. So they killed them at Maitland.
A good track is one where you can win - trainer or punter. I remember well the firs time I went to moss vale to bet a dog and saw that the dogs started on the downhill slope near enough a corner, it was completely new to me compared to what I was used of in scotland
Second story. One of the most famous club managers in the country (called secretaries then) reacted to my query about the integrity of his track. "They will be alright if they nick out in front".
Third story. Out of the mouth of babes. I used to often sit next to a pretty sensible guy in the Clubtab. He did not really have a clue about greyhound racing but liked a bit of fun putting $2 bets on Exotic combinations - all based on the numbers. His question to me was about Ipswich 431m: "Why don't they do something about that start". It was the only trip that he refused to bet on.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder - and the bloke who places his dogs well.
Bruce Teague Australia (Verified User) Posts 2092 Dogs 0 / Races 0 05 Aug 2017 00:45
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Darryn,
Moss Vale track was almost unique (more so than Casino) because it had absolutely no straight at all. Some dogs liked it, some did not. Plenty of bookies, though.
For many years they failed to install supergrass in front of the boxes. When they eventually did, times were lowered by half a second.
The great (?) Darryn Flindell (later Hong Kong and Randwick) was the caller then. A deckchair on a sunny day was the way to go.
Dead and buried now (local council)!
Bruce Teague Australia (Verified User) Posts 2092 Dogs 0 / Races 0 05 Aug 2017 01:17
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Steven, As we speak the WPK score is .. 1 x 5 3 x 6 3 x 7 3 x 8
6 races had no reserves to start with.
The fact is that this pattern has been going on for years. It is not recent, although it may have got even worse. IF you look more closely, an even worse situation would have emerged if authorities had not started programming Maidens, Novices and short races at city tracks. All of which then affected the provincials, and so on and so on. If you go back, the source of all that was the introduction of two weekly "provincial" standard meetings in Melbourne some 15 years ago. The rest just snowballed.
Part of the cause is the addition of extra meetings across the nation - eg more 12-race meetings in the hope of increasing revenue. Another is the concentration on presenting any old race, irrespective of quality. Part of that is the various grading systems which all favour low standard races and dogs (there are good and bad aspects of that). Note WA had to ease its interstate qualifications in order to attract more higher grade dogs to fill their normal races.
Above all, administrations have not been doing their sums.
Allied with that is the nonsensical findings of all three state reviews that over-breeding is the big problem. They are still saying that today. Hard to believe!
A solution would be to complete recast grading and programming to (a) match the demand and (b) establish marketing ventures to encourage more public support - thereby raising revenue per race (to replace any deleted races/meetings).
While we are at it, virtually no-one outside a few bureaucrats can tell us what revenue per race we are achieving - because the corporate cash is unknown at that stage. Consequently, published material (ie the tote) contains distorted information and is full of overbet favourites, thereby discouraging more punters. It's a vicious cycle.
Anthony Jeffress Australia (Verified User) Posts 3669 Dogs 54 / Races 10 05 Aug 2017 11:22
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steven martin wrote:
Bathurst Monday 3 races - full fields - 2 reserves. 2 races - full fields - 1 reserves. 6 races - no reserve. No races for 3 Grade dogs - plus.
... and they didn't get enough noms for a Grade 5 over the 520m ...
Tony Digiorgio Australia (Verified User) Posts 1008 Dogs 25 / Races 0 05 Aug 2017 21:18
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Bruce Teague wrote:
Darryn,
Moss Vale track was almost unique (more so than Casino) because it had absolutely no straight at all. Some dogs liked it, some did not. Plenty of bookies, though.
For many years they failed to install supergrass in front of the boxes. When they eventually did, times were lowered by half a second.
The great (?) Darryn Flindell (later Hong Kong and Randwick) was the caller then. A deckchair on a sunny day was the way to go.
Dead and buried now (local council)!
Caller was the late Graham Tonkin(god rest his soul).