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I have started this thread for the people who feel they cant comment on the save harolds cross thread. If you say anything that doesn't suit you are either ignored, attacked or post removed.
The picket on Spk is going on too long at this stage and no sign of an end.
The majority of the greyhound public backed the DGOBA Picket at the start, however i don't think anybody thought it would go on this long, there has been no statements from the DGOBA now in quite a while so everyone is in the dark and getting frustrated.
Has the board made any offers or any requests to meet DGOBA, who is making the call on any negotiations if they have, will another meeting be held for all stakeholders to discuss any offers being made?
I think it should be relaxed to allow some racing to go ahead, maybe one night per week or every second week. And also a plan made to target other locations with the picket as it's not having much effect at SPK.
Goin on far far to long its embarrassing to say the least 1 track in Dublin racing 4/5 nights is not to be sniffed at here in Belfast we had 2 tracks racing 6nights per week now we have none 1 track in lisburn racing 2nights per week for which we are grateful sort urselves out before we all end up flapping
Martin James Ireland (Verified User) Posts 1128 Dogs 5 / Races 0 25 Apr 2017 20:28
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There isn't anything to sit down and talk about Paul. It looks to me that a deal has been done "o n the nod"for HX and the IGB are committed to this hook line and sinker.
If HX were open there would be 1000 odd punter's there Fri next and the Oaks would be going ahead. The plan to crush and humiliate the HX followers has backfired. So reopen HX and apologise to the dog men and women and the IGB cash COWS can start rebalancing the books. Just to repeat the plan was to crush and humiliate the dog people whoever let that happen is to blame here.
Martin James Ireland (Verified User) Posts 1128 Dogs 5 / Races 0 25 Apr 2017 20:34
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Why don't you look for some money off the Bookmakers Thomas. They are raking it in in the shops RP TV and on line. UK tracks get money from the UK fund. Drumbo should get some of that surely? Betting on dogs on line etc is booming now.
There isn't anything to sit down and talk about Paul. It looks to me that a deal has been done "o n the nod"for HX and the IGB are committed to this hook line and sinker.
If HX were open there would be 1000 odd punter's there Fri next and the Oaks would be going ahead. The plan to crush and humiliate the HX followers has backfired. So reopen HX and apologise to the dog men and women and the IGB cash COWS can start rebalancing the books. Just to repeat the plan was to crush and humiliate the dog people whoever let that happen is to blame here.
Ok Martin so say they reopen Harolds Cross where is the money going to come from then to pay the bank debt?
Charlie Borg Ireland (Verified User) Posts 2016 Dogs 0 / Races 0 25 Apr 2017 20:48
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thomas light wrote:
Goin on far far to long its embarrassing to say the least 1 track in Dublin racing 4/5 nights is not to be sniffed at here in Belfast we had 2 tracks racing 6nights per week now we have none 1 track in lisburn racing 2nights per week for which we are grateful sort urselves out before we all end up flapping
If this board stay in power much longer things will be heading that way anyways Thomas ..........As far as i'm concerned if they can sell off a track in Dublin (which btw was making money) they aren't gonna think twice about selling another one in Lisburn , Lifford or anywhere else
There isn't anything to sit down and talk about Paul. It looks to me that a deal has been done "o n the nod"for HX and the IGB are committed to this hook line and sinker.
If HX were open there would be 1000 odd punter's there Fri next and the Oaks would be going ahead. The plan to crush and humiliate the HX followers has backfired. So reopen HX and apologise to the dog men and women and the IGB cash COWS can start rebalancing the books. Just to repeat the plan was to crush and humiliate the dog people whoever let that happen is to blame here.
Ok Martin so say they reopen Harolds Cross where is the money going to come from then to pay the bank debt?
I thought this was a Save Shelbourne Park thread.
But while I'm here ... Martin is exactly rite . Crush and Humiliate was the tactic and it went horribly wrong. This shows the true worth of this pathetic excuse for a board.They can't be trusted to get anything rite , WHY would you trust them with the sale of Harolds Cross or the funds ( millions) raised from such a sale. They have mishandled the whole industry for years now and it's time they removed.
Charlie sums it up very well also
Charlie Borg Ireland (Verified User) Posts 2016 Dogs 0 / Races 0 25 Apr 2017 20:54
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Paul Ronan wrote:
martin james wrote:
There isn't anything to sit down and talk about Paul. It looks to me that a deal has been done "o n the nod"for HX and the IGB are committed to this hook line and sinker.
If HX were open there would be 1000 odd punter's there Fri next and the Oaks would be going ahead. The plan to crush and humiliate the HX followers has backfired. So reopen HX and apologise to the dog men and women and the IGB cash COWS can start rebalancing the books. Just to repeat the plan was to crush and humiliate the dog people whoever let that happen is to blame here.
Ok Martin so say they reopen Harolds Cross where is the money going to come from then to pay the bank debt?
Have you not looked at Kieran Boles ideas ? or are you like the IGB not interested in anyones elses ideas ?
I believe a top Accountant and Pascal Taggett think they're worth a go and could work
There isn't anything to sit down and talk about Paul. It looks to me that a deal has been done "o n the nod"for HX and the IGB are committed to this hook line and sinker.
If HX were open there would be 1000 odd punter's there Fri next and the Oaks would be going ahead. The plan to crush and humiliate the HX followers has backfired. So reopen HX and apologise to the dog men and women and the IGB cash COWS can start rebalancing the books. Just to repeat the plan was to crush and humiliate the dog people whoever let that happen is to blame here.
Ok Martin so say they reopen Harolds Cross where is the money going to come from then to pay the bank debt?
I thought this was a Save Shelbourne Park thread.
But while I'm here ... Martin is exactly rite . Crush and Humiliate was the tactic and it went horribly wrong. This shows the true worth of this pathetic excuse for a board.They can't be trusted to get anything rite , WHY would you trust them with the sale of Harolds Cross or the funds ( millions) raised from such a sale. They have mishandled the whole industry for years now and it's time they removed.
Charlie sums it up very well also
So Brian is the Pickets objective to get the board removed or reopen harolds cross?
I don't think they can afford to reopen harolds cross or not sell it so I would have thought the deal would be to offer to lift the picket if board goes?
There isn't anything to sit down and talk about Paul. It looks to me that a deal has been done "o n the nod"for HX and the IGB are committed to this hook line and sinker.
If HX were open there would be 1000 odd punter's there Fri next and the Oaks would be going ahead. The plan to crush and humiliate the HX followers has backfired. So reopen HX and apologise to the dog men and women and the IGB cash COWS can start rebalancing the books. Just to repeat the plan was to crush and humiliate the dog people whoever let that happen is to blame here.
Ok Martin so say they reopen Harolds Cross where is the money going to come from then to pay the bank debt?
Have you not looked at Kieran Boles ideas ? or are you like the IGB not interested in anyones elses ideas ?
I believe a top Accountant and Pascal Taggett think they're worth a go and could work
I have looked at Kieran's plan and there is nothing in it that is going to immediately come up with the kind of money needed to save harolds cross, it may work but I think it will be years down the line, that plan will also have to contend with the damage that has been done over the past 10 weeks.
Charlie Borg Ireland (Verified User) Posts 2016 Dogs 0 / Races 0 25 Apr 2017 21:06
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Paul Ronan wrote:
charlie borg wrote:
Paul Ronan wrote:
martin james wrote:
There isn't anything to sit down and talk about Paul. It looks to me that a deal has been done "o n the nod"for HX and the IGB are committed to this hook line and sinker.
If HX were open there would be 1000 odd punter's there Fri next and the Oaks would be going ahead. The plan to crush and humiliate the HX followers has backfired. So reopen HX and apologise to the dog men and women and the IGB cash COWS can start rebalancing the books. Just to repeat the plan was to crush and humiliate the dog people whoever let that happen is to blame here.
Ok Martin so say they reopen Harolds Cross where is the money going to come from then to pay the bank debt?
Have you not looked at Kieran Boles ideas ? or are you like the IGB not interested in anyones elses ideas ?
I believe a top Accountant and Pascal Taggett think they're worth a go and could work
I have looked at Kieran's plan and there is nothing in it that is going to immediately come up with the kind of money needed to save harolds cross, it may work but I think it will be years down the line, that plan will also have to contend with the damage that has been done over the past 10 weeks.
But at least we'll all still be here in 10 years (well god willing) HX cross doesn't need "saving" it was paying for itself and helping other less fortunate tracks(by making a profit year in and year out).....well i say it doesn't need saving for all we know it could already be sold and we don't know about it . Then the chit will really hit the fan if that's the case
There isn't anything to sit down and talk about Paul. It looks to me that a deal has been done "o n the nod"for HX and the IGB are committed to this hook line and sinker.
If HX were open there would be 1000 odd punter's there Fri next and the Oaks would be going ahead. The plan to crush and humiliate the HX followers has backfired. So reopen HX and apologise to the dog men and women and the IGB cash COWS can start rebalancing the books. Just to repeat the plan was to crush and humiliate the dog people whoever let that happen is to blame here.
Ok Martin so say they reopen Harolds Cross where is the money going to come from then to pay the bank debt?
Have you not looked at Kieran Boles ideas ? or are you like the IGB not interested in anyones elses ideas ?
I believe a top Accountant and Pascal Taggett think they're worth a go and could work
I have looked at Kieran's plan and there is nothing in it that is going to immediately come up with the kind of money needed to save harolds cross, it may work but I think it will be years down the line, that plan will also have to contend with the damage that has been done over the past 10 weeks.
But at least we'll all still be here in 10 years (well god willing) HX cross doesn't need "saving" it was paying for itself and helping other less fortunate tracks(by making a profit year in and year out).....well i say it doesn't need saving for all we know it could already be sold and we don't know about it . Then the chit will really hit the fan if that's the case
How much was it making? Would it have been making enough to cover the interest only on its value? Circa 12 million?
There isn't anything to sit down and talk about Paul. It looks to me that a deal has been done "o n the nod"for HX and the IGB are committed to this hook line and sinker.
If HX were open there would be 1000 odd punter's there Fri next and the Oaks would be going ahead. The plan to crush and humiliate the HX followers has backfired. So reopen HX and apologise to the dog men and women and the IGB cash COWS can start rebalancing the books. Just to repeat the plan was to crush and humiliate the dog people whoever let that happen is to blame here.
Ok Martin so say they reopen Harolds Cross where is the money going to come from then to pay the bank debt?
I thought this was a Save Shelbourne Park thread.
But while I'm here ... Martin is exactly rite . Crush and Humiliate was the tactic and it went horribly wrong. This shows the true worth of this pathetic excuse for a board.They can't be trusted to get anything rite , WHY would you trust them with the sale of Harolds Cross or the funds ( millions) raised from such a sale. They have mishandled the whole industry for years now and it's time they removed.
Charlie sums it up very well also
So Brian is the Pickets objective to get the board removed or reopen harolds cross?
I don't think they can afford to reopen harolds cross or not sell it so I would have thought the deal would be to offer to lift the picket if board goes?
That's the best outcome I can see coming of this.
Paul they say they are loosing 30,000 a week so really they can't afford not to open the Cross and resume racing in Dublin. I have looked at the proposals or plans put forward by Paschal and Kieran Boles and while I'm no accountant they look like they could work a whole lot better than the " five year plan" .
There isn't anything to sit down and talk about Paul. It looks to me that a deal has been done "o n the nod"for HX and the IGB are committed to this hook line and sinker.
If HX were open there would be 1000 odd punter's there Fri next and the Oaks would be going ahead. The plan to crush and humiliate the HX followers has backfired. So reopen HX and apologise to the dog men and women and the IGB cash COWS can start rebalancing the books. Just to repeat the plan was to crush and humiliate the dog people whoever let that happen is to blame here.
Ok Martin so say they reopen Harolds Cross where is the money going to come from then to pay the bank debt?
I thought this was a Save Shelbourne Park thread.
But while I'm here ... Martin is exactly rite . Crush and Humiliate was the tactic and it went horribly wrong. This shows the true worth of this pathetic excuse for a board.They can't be trusted to get anything rite , WHY would you trust them with the sale of Harolds Cross or the funds ( millions) raised from such a sale. They have mishandled the whole industry for years now and it's time they removed.
Charlie sums it up very well also
So Brian is the Pickets objective to get the board removed or reopen harolds cross?
I don't think they can afford to reopen harolds cross or not sell it so I would have thought the deal would be to offer to lift the picket if board goes?
That's the best outcome I can see coming of this.
Paul they say they are loosing 30,000 a week so really they can't afford not to open the Cross and resume racing in Dublin. I have looked at the proposals or plans put forward by Paschal and Kieran Boles and while I'm no accountant they look like they could work a whole lot better than the " five year plan" .
I'd imagine even if the board decided to reopen it that the bank would just put in a receiver and they would sell it, be no use picketing Spk then.
Charlie Borg Ireland (Verified User) Posts 2016 Dogs 0 / Races 0 25 Apr 2017 21:16
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Paul Ronan wrote:
charlie borg wrote:
Paul Ronan wrote:
charlie borg wrote:
Paul Ronan wrote:
martin james wrote:
There isn't anything to sit down and talk about Paul. It looks to me that a deal has been done "o n the nod"for HX and the IGB are committed to this hook line and sinker.
If HX were open there would be 1000 odd punter's there Fri next and the Oaks would be going ahead. The plan to crush and humiliate the HX followers has backfired. So reopen HX and apologise to the dog men and women and the IGB cash COWS can start rebalancing the books. Just to repeat the plan was to crush and humiliate the dog people whoever let that happen is to blame here.
Ok Martin so say they reopen Harolds Cross where is the money going to come from then to pay the bank debt?
Have you not looked at Kieran Boles ideas ? or are you like the IGB not interested in anyones elses ideas ?
I believe a top Accountant and Pascal Taggett think they're worth a go and could work
I have looked at Kieran's plan and there is nothing in it that is going to immediately come up with the kind of money needed to save harolds cross, it may work but I think it will be years down the line, that plan will also have to contend with the damage that has been done over the past 10 weeks.
But at least we'll all still be here in 10 years (well god willing) HX cross doesn't need "saving" it was paying for itself and helping other less fortunate tracks(by making a profit year in and year out).....well i say it doesn't need saving for all we know it could already be sold and we don't know about it . Then the chit will really hit the fan if that's the case
How much was it making? Would it have been making enough to cover the interest only on its value? Circa 12 million?
I honestly could tell you amounts Paul , but the figures are out there i just don't know where too look , but i do know it's wasn't losing money along with Shelbourne and i think Cork was the other one in profit since the recession started (though i could be wrong on Cork)
There isn't anything to sit down and talk about Paul. It looks to me that a deal has been done "o n the nod"for HX and the IGB are committed to this hook line and sinker.
If HX were open there would be 1000 odd punter's there Fri next and the Oaks would be going ahead. The plan to crush and humiliate the HX followers has backfired. So reopen HX and apologise to the dog men and women and the IGB cash COWS can start rebalancing the books. Just to repeat the plan was to crush and humiliate the dog people whoever let that happen is to blame here.
Ok Martin so say they reopen Harolds Cross where is the money going to come from then to pay the bank debt?
Have you not looked at Kieran Boles ideas ? or are you like the IGB not interested in anyones elses ideas ?
I believe a top Accountant and Pascal Taggett think they're worth a go and could work
I have looked at Kieran's plan and there is nothing in it that is going to immediately come up with the kind of money needed to save harolds cross, it may work but I think it will be years down the line, that plan will also have to contend with the damage that has been done over the past 10 weeks.
But at least we'll all still be here in 10 years (well god willing) HX cross doesn't need "saving" it was paying for itself and helping other less fortunate tracks(by making a profit year in and year out).....well i say it doesn't need saving for all we know it could already be sold and we don't know about it . Then the chit will really hit the fan if that's the case
How much was it making? Would it have been making enough to cover the interest only on its value? Circa 12 million?
I honestly could tell you amounts Paul , but the figures are out there i just don't know where too look , but i do know it's wasn't losing money along with Shelbourne and i think Cork was the other one in profit since the recession started (though i could be wrong on Cork)
I can't remember myself Charlie but remember thinking although it was a profit it was very little. Interest on approx 12m will be some saving along with some of the business transferring over to Spk.
There isn't anything to sit down and talk about Paul. It looks to me that a deal has been done "o n the nod"for HX and the IGB are committed to this hook line and sinker.
If HX were open there would be 1000 odd punter's there Fri next and the Oaks would be going ahead. The plan to crush and humiliate the HX followers has backfired. So reopen HX and apologise to the dog men and women and the IGB cash COWS can start rebalancing the books. Just to repeat the plan was to crush and humiliate the dog people whoever let that happen is to blame here.
Ok Martin so say they reopen Harolds Cross where is the money going to come from then to pay the bank debt?
I thought this was a Save Shelbourne Park thread.
But while I'm here ... Martin is exactly rite . Crush and Humiliate was the tactic and it went horribly wrong. This shows the true worth of this pathetic excuse for a board.They can't be trusted to get anything rite , WHY would you trust them with the sale of Harolds Cross or the funds ( millions) raised from such a sale. They have mishandled the whole industry for years now and it's time they removed.
Charlie sums it up very well also
So Brian is the Pickets objective to get the board removed or reopen harolds cross?
I don't think they can afford to reopen harolds cross or not sell it so I would have thought the deal would be to offer to lift the picket if board goes?
That's the best outcome I can see coming of this.
Paul they say they are loosing 30,000 a week so really they can't afford not to open the Cross and resume racing in Dublin. I have looked at the proposals or plans put forward by Paschal and Kieran Boles and while I'm no accountant they look like they could work a whole lot better than the " five year plan" .
I'd imagine even if the board decided to reopen it that the bank would just put in a receiver and they would sell it, be no use picketing Spk then.
If you can "imagine " the bank putting in a receiver . WHY can't you " imagine " Kierad Boles plan being productive ? Facts and figures can be manipulated to look good or better than they are but this board can't even do that correctly. If the receiver had been called in and closed Harolds Cross then Shelbourne would still be racing . It was the WAY in which it was closed that stured the rising of the general greyhound people.
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