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Maurice Organ Ireland (Verified User) Posts 74 Dogs 0 / Races 0 14 Jun 2017 07:02
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Clonmel Track Supporters Club (C.T.S.C) Assets frozen
An EGM of Clonmel track supporters club was held at the Clonmel Park Hotel on 30thMay last. This EGM was called as a matter of urgency due to a dispute with the directors of Clonmel greyhound stadium. The board of directors have stopped the supporters club from sponsoring any stakes at the stadium and our very successful members night has also been cancelled. The supporters club was set up over 10 years ago with the prime purpose to source potential sponsors and assist the sponsors with contributions towards sweepstakes. In that time the supporters club have contributed over 400,000 to prize money at the track. In the past financial year alone we have sourced 25 sponsors with a total prize fund of 47,000 including a contribution of almost 20,000 from the supporters club. The supporters club is a voluntary committee who raise money by membership and a weekly lotto. The track directors are now insisting that they give the track 50% of the money collected and are looking for a contribution of 1,250 a month (15,000 P.A) from the supporters clubs funds. As the rules of our licence do not allow us to pay for day to day running of the track, the track supporters club have offered to pay for extra sand and maintenance of the track which will benefit to the welfare of the dogs, We have already given over 11,000 -2016 for sand, maintenance, resurfacing the bends, RMS etc.
Because of this impasse and because the CTSC have declined to make this contribution the track directors have refused to allow any sponsoring of stakes to go ahead and regretfully we have had to turn down potential sponsors. In a letter from the track directors they requested that the supporters club pay for the cost of advertising- sporting press, cost of complimentary tickets to sponsors and cost of complimentary tickets to volunteers of the supporters club committee to carry out the lotto on a Friday night. This request was for the sum totalling 9200.
There was a lot of heated discussion at the EGM with some of the track directors in attendance. Several proposals were put forward but the directors insisted that if the money requests were not forthcoming they would not allow the supporters club to sponsor at the track.
The Committee of the CTSC was very disappointed with the Clonmel board in the way the CTSC have been treated, after all the CTSC is totally voluntary and have always worked for the betterment of Clonmel Greyhound Stadium.
It was agreed unanimously in a show of hands that a mediator should be brought in to solve the impasse. It was also agreed that Clonmel track supporters club would be put on hold and the assets frozen until a solution is found.
On behalf of the track supporters club I would like to sincerely thank all our sponsors for your support. And to everyone who supported our weekly lotto. Your support is greatly appreciated by the committee of the Clonmel track supporters club.
Yours in Sport
Committee of the CTSC
ps if anyone has any questions about this matter please contact me on 0872493983
Dean Townsend United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 2104 Dogs 19 / Races 0 14 Jun 2017 07:37
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Unbelievable, these guys in suits are destroying our sport all around the country. Need more tracks like Drumbo not run by these fools. Supporters run tracks or something
Karin Milling Denmark (Verified User) Posts 290 Dogs 68 / Races 15 14 Jun 2017 09:07
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Speechless !!!
The CTSC is there to support owners and trainers, and to sponsor races NOT to finance the running of the track !!!!!
That they help pay for the maintenance of the track is already outside their purpose.
The Directors of the Clonmel Track should be ashamed.
Maurice Organ Ireland (Verified User) Posts 74 Dogs 0 / Races 0 14 Jun 2017 09:41
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this statement was sent to the sporting press and it was not published in the way it was sent in.instead the directors of the track were aloud to make little of our statement. if anyone has any questions about the matters in their part of the article in the sporting press as I would now call it please don't hesitate to contact me on 087 2493983
Maurice Mullaney Ireland (Verified User) Posts 376 Dogs 0 / Races 0 14 Jun 2017 10:13
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TYPICAL ICC.
They also put Two fingers up to Owners by not Sponsoring the Oaks.
Could have been run at Galway/Limerick/Newbridge.
CEO still on OVer 60k a year imm sure while Trial Stake winners still take home the same pot for the Last 10 years
Lynda Bonner United Kingdom (Team Member) Posts 6240 Dogs 77 / Races 15 14 Jun 2017 11:41
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maurice organ wrote:
this statement was sent to the sporting press and it was not published in the way it was sent in.instead the directors of the track were aloud to make little of our statement. if anyone has any questions about the matters in their part of the article in the sporting press as I would now call it please don't hesitate to contact me on 087 2493983
The statement is being discussed on social media. As someone said earlier...this situation leaves me speechless!
Maurice Organ Ireland (Verified User) Posts 74 Dogs 0 / Races 0 14 Jun 2017 12:45
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I would like to thank the people who have posted their views on this issue. therefor I would like to ask any other people who view this page to please give their views on this issue as it may be a help in solving the same your help and comments are greatly appreciated.
track supporters clubs are not set up to pay the running cost and bad financial management of the track. Clonmel has the best supporters club in the country and only for them Clonmel would be gone a long time ago. It is disgraceful the way the track directors have treated them. This is so wrong and insulting to those that have put so much unpaid work and commitment to keep the track going.
Frank Hickey Ireland (Verified User) Posts 98 Dogs 11 / Races 0 15 Jun 2017 07:43
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The track supporters club won't be much good if the track is closed. The tsc might not have been set up to financially support the running of the track but when the situations change should it not adapt in some way to keep things open. Only an opinion on the function of a tsc, and I would have to say that the ctsc is a well run club and has done great work. Hopefully this can be sorted.
The track supporters club won't be much good if the track is closed. The tsc might not have been set up to financially support the running of the track but when the situations change should it not adapt in some way to keep things open. Only an opinion on the function of a tsc, and I would have to say that the ctsc is a well run club and has done great work. Hopefully this can be sorted.
It's the function of the IGB to keep the track and all other tracks open. Now maybe people will see the wood from the trees as to the efforts of the DGOBA and what they were trying to achieve. New Board Please !!!!
The track supporters club won't be much good if the track is closed. The tsc might not have been set up to financially support the running of the track but when the situations change should it not adapt in some way to keep things open. Only an opinion on the function of a tsc, and I would have to say that the ctsc is a well run club and has done great work. Hopefully this can be sorted.
Yet again the small dog man gets the blame. Its upto mamagement to manage...not sit on arses and ask for handouts!
The IGB are given 16 million to help with that side of things where are they
Frank Hickey Ireland (Verified User) Posts 98 Dogs 11 / Races 0 15 Jun 2017 10:14
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Yvonne Harrington wrote:
frank hickey wrote:
The track supporters club won't be much good if the track is closed. The tsc might not have been set up to financially support the running of the track but when the situations change should it not adapt in some way to keep things open. Only an opinion on the function of a tsc, and I would have to say that the ctsc is a well run club and has done great work. Hopefully this can be sorted.
Yet again the small dog man gets the blame. Its upto mamagement to manage...not sit on arses and ask for handouts!
The IGB are given 16 million to help with that side of things where are they
Mabye I'm reading this wrong Yvonne but is this not a local issue between management of clonmel track and clonmel track supporters club, I know in the present environment it is popular to blame the igb board for everthing, but when I pay my membership to clonmel tsc or buy a lotto ticket I would like to think my few bob would go towards the track in some for or another, Maurice organ asked for people's opinions and I gave mine on what I taught was a local issue and not another igb board bashing issue.
Clonmel Track Supporters Club (C.T.S.C) Assets frozen
The track directors are now insisting that they give the track 50% of the money collected and are looking for a contribution of 1,250 a month (15,000 P.A) from the supporters clubs funds. ps if anyone has any questions about this matter please contact me on 0872493983
As you can see Frank the problem is with the Directors who answer to the IGB. Have you got the picture now ? Have you watched the PAC meetings with the same IGB ? Did you hear about the number of Executives who are paid over 1.1 million per annum from the "kitty" ? Did you hear about Board members claiming expenses including for travel/dining/flowers for attending funerals ?? And now they are "insisting", if you don't mind, that Track Supporters Clubs pay for this !!
New Board Please !!
Frank Hickey Ireland (Verified User) Posts 98 Dogs 11 / Races 0 15 Jun 2017 12:33
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Miceal the directors at clonmel answer to the share holders of clonmel track and are elected by the share holders and not by the igb and as far as I am aware there is no igb rep on the board, stand corrected on that. Got the picture miceal, local issue and for your info clonmel track hold a agm every year and the management are answerable to the shareholders of the track.
Maurice Organ Ireland (Verified User) Posts 74 Dogs 0 / Races 0 15 Jun 2017 13:40
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frank the problem in clonmel is not so simple to solve because the TSC is governed by the charitys commissioner and the track is run by a public limited company so the TSC can not fund a plc under the terms and laws of their licence .I hope this info answers the reason why we cannot help the track in the way you suggested.
Frank Hickey Ireland (Verified User) Posts 98 Dogs 11 / Races 0 15 Jun 2017 13:58
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maurice organ wrote:
frank the problem in clonmel is not so simple to solve because the TSC is governed by the charitys commissioner and the track is run by a public limited company so the TSC can not fund a plc under the terms and laws of their licence .I hope this
Thanks Maurice, hope a solution can be found.
Maurice Organ Ireland (Verified User) Posts 74 Dogs 0 / Races 0 15 Jun 2017 14:16
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hopefully we can frank,you mentioned something in your answer to Michael which was the share holders as you said the directors answer to them so why do the directors not go to the share holders for help after all it is their company. ps I did mension this to them at our EGM and got no comments back tks for your views all the same
Frank Hickey Ireland (Verified User) Posts 98 Dogs 11 / Races 0 15 Jun 2017 14:40
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It is definitely a option Maurice
Chris Robertson Ireland (Verified User) Posts 1043 Dogs 28 / Races 0 15 Jun 2017 20:53
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I don't understand why the management think they can tell the supporters club how and where to spend the money they work so hard at raising
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