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Ray Brown
Australia
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Posts 5006
Dogs 8 / Races 5

13 Jul 2017 22:46


I heard it said on the radio in the early hours this morning that the powers that be are are preposing to eliminate circle tracks altogether and 8 dog fields iin favour of STRAIGHT TRACK RACING n attempt to reduce the number of injuries and fatalities to greyhoundsMisery!!!

Surely they are either joking or it the last and ultimate clandestine move to 'finish off' greyhound racing in Australia!!!

Now I must confess that I was half asleep at the time this was broadcast, so I cannot confirm whether it was a STATE based campaign or NATIONAL, either way it would be the rock that starts the catastrophic landslide...anyone else have any concrete evidence of this???


Michael Peter Martin
New Zealand
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Posts 4
Dogs 0 / Races 0

13 Jul 2017 22:50


RAY BROWN wrote:

I heard it said on the radio in the early hours this morning that the powers that be are are preposing to eliminate circle tracks altogether and 8 dog fields iin favour of STRAIGHT TRACK RACING n attempt to reduce the number of injuries and fatalities to greyhoundsMisery!!!

Surely they are either joking or it the last and ultimate clandestine move to 'finish off' greyhound racing in Australia!!!

Now I must confess that I was half asleep at the time this was broadcast, so I cannot confirm whether it was a STATE based campaign or NATIONAL, either way it would be the rock hat starts the landslide...anyone else have any concrete evidence of this.

Even worse in NZ where we have a prominent trainer who is also president of one of the tracks trying to go down a similar path



Sandro Bechini
Australia
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Posts 16697
Dogs 13631 / Races 1779

14 Jul 2017 00:50


Ray

Don't jump to conclusions. It's only a recommendation from a report.

The rest of the world race on two turns and we are on a straight track.

I bet it won't be happening.

What is more likely is that track configurations regarding shape and cambers and bend starts for sprints will start to be eliminated.

In saying that, NSW has been starved of decent straight track racing and there is a place for it.

I would love to see two straight tracks back in operation again as it was with Wyong and Appin.



Mark Staines
Australia
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Posts 2922
Dogs 68 / Races 13

14 Jul 2017 01:22


RAY BROWN wrote:

I heard it said on the radio in the early hours this morning that the powers that be are are preposing to eliminate circle tracks altogether and 8 dog fields iin favour of STRAIGHT TRACK RACING n attempt to reduce the number of injuries and fatalities to greyhoundsMisery!!!

Surely they are either joking or it the last and ultimate clandestine move to 'finish off' greyhound racing in Australia!!!

Now I must confess that I was half asleep at the time this was broadcast, so I cannot confirm whether it was a STATE based campaign or NATIONAL, either way it would be the rock that starts the catastrophic landslide...anyone else have any concrete evidence of this???

The GWG recommended 6 Dog fields here in N.S.W. months a go.



Ryan Vanderwert
Australia
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Posts 3169
Dogs 3 / Races 0

14 Jul 2017 02:43


Michael Peter Martin wrote:

Even worse in NZ where we have a prominent trainer who is also president of one of the tracks trying to go down a similar path

know the feeling, they stuff the sport !



Andrew Plasier
Australia
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Posts 1134
Dogs 0 / Races 16

14 Jul 2017 04:16


Why dont they fix the tracks where the problems are,make longer straights into a wider larger turn,there's a story in syd tele & they say tamworth had the worst stats for injuries,fix the bloody corners,i heard appin mite re open which is a good thing & yes a cpl of straight tracks would be good & tab covered would also be good,but there's no way straight track only will survive long.



Steven Martin
Australia
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Posts 5421
Dogs 163 / Races 66

14 Jul 2017 06:10


Regarding SAFE RACING...

The problem is.....when they closed Wyong back in 1998/99, those that were around at the time & can still remember, were all jumping up & down saying NO YOU CAN'T.

The same thing happened with APPIN when they tried a couple of times to close it down before finally nailing the coffin shut.

The same again with Cessnock & Singleton which were BIG MASSIVE safe sweeping tracks...We yelled YOU CAN'T SHUT THEM DOWN.

"Corner starts" we all hate, especially the ones that start on the beginning of a bend....but our LEADERS would not listen once again.

WE HAVE BEEN CRYING OUT FOR BETTER CONDITIONS FOR YEARS.....But they don't give a rats & have been running us into the ground & taking our money that's been created through TAXES.

Something had to give.

Now THEY know we WON'T GO AWAY & that our vote IS important....& all of a sudden they want to fix what we've been SHOUTING OUT for for bl00dy years.

Go Figure.

I hope the horse hasn't bolted.


Craig Andrews
Australia
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Posts 1984
Dogs 15 / Races 2

14 Jul 2017 09:06


The recommendation was 6 dog fields, removal of corner starts, and a return of straight track racing. All positives for me.


Simon Milgate
Australia
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Posts 1016
Dogs 2 / Races 0

14 Jul 2017 09:35


What's the longest straight track in Aus ? And has any of the existing tracks got room to extend track to 500-600+?



Tor Janes
Australia
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Posts 8030
Dogs 16 / Races 0

14 Jul 2017 10:44


Not unless they have big oblong shapes of land, if theres only 6 dogs in a field does that mean we lose the turnover from first 4 and trifectas, if so what affect that would have on overall income?



Nathan Trigg
Australia
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Posts 333
Dogs 9 / Races 0

14 Jul 2017 11:19


What was the theory behind designing tracks with corner starts in the first place ?



Robynne Black
Australia
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Posts 1307
Dogs 18 / Races 0

14 Jul 2017 11:34


Craig Andrews wrote:

The recommendation was 6 dog fields, removal of corner starts, and a return of straight track racing. All positives for me.

Agree


Shane Kleinhans
Australia
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Posts 17
Dogs 1 / Races 0

14 Jul 2017 13:06


The problem is we built tracks on pre built facilities inside trotting tracks and on 1/4 mile Showgrounds. We need to start on a blank canvas and make tracks to suit greyhounds long run to first bend



Steven Martin
Australia
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Posts 5421
Dogs 163 / Races 66

14 Jul 2017 13:13


Nathan Trigg wrote:

What was the theory behind designing tracks with corner starts in the first place ?

From my experience in the industry Nathan most tracks were built in the 60's or 70's and originally had 2 turns (310m, 520m, 720m) or 1 turn (400m, 457m, 732m) or something similar.

Corner starts were mostly "Add-ons" after the fact.....A cheap alternative to accommodate dogs on 2 turn tracks over 400+ meters.

Victoria & WA are the only States to go forward in track designs over the last 15 years. Hobart & NSW have had some up grades mainly to TAB tracks only. Country track have mostly been ignored.

Qld have not built a new track since the inception of Albion Park in early 1993......24 years ago.


James Weise
Australia
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Posts 107
Dogs 1 / Races 0

14 Jul 2017 23:30


Nathan Trigg wrote:

What was the theory behind designing tracks with corner starts in the first place ?

Totally agree. NO ONE in greyhound racing likes corner starts. Not good for safety or racing. Everyone wants starts into long straights.

I bit of listening to participants would go a long way. A few TAB meeting on straight tracks won't hurt though, but cannot be purely straight racing.


Shane Kleinhans
Australia
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Posts 17
Dogs 1 / Races 0

15 Jul 2017 04:27


James Weise wrote:

Nathan Trigg wrote:

What was the theory behind designing tracks with corner starts in the first place ?

Totally agree. NO ONE in greyhound racing likes corner starts. Not good for safety or racing. Everyone wants starts into long straights.

I bit of listening to participants would go a long way. A few TAB meeting on straight tracks won't hurt though, but cannot be purely straight racing.


Straight track racing is specialty not all dogs handle it and you will still get interference from dogs going left from box 8 going right from box 1. We may very well end up like Britain 6 dogs and preferential box draw


Lawrence Parker
Australia
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Posts 1333
Dogs 3 / Races 0

15 Jul 2017 05:10


Here in Victoria we have sales 520m start on a bend & while their 440m start has a good run to first turn the camber is such that dogs from out wide come down to fence hard causing major interference to rest of field. Also, what annoys me greatly is Traralgon where the track was closed for ages for major track reconstruction but we still finished up with the 395m start on a bend. Further back we built a track from scratch at the meadows & finished up with the the 525m start with a less than ideal length of run to first turn. WHY????? Will be interested to see what they do with the current reco of the Horsham track.


Mark Staines
Australia
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Posts 2922
Dogs 68 / Races 13

15 Jul 2017 07:58


Shane Kleinhans wrote:

James Weise wrote:

Nathan Trigg wrote:

What was the theory behind designing tracks with corner starts in the first place ?

Totally agree. NO ONE in greyhound racing likes corner starts. Not good for safety or racing. Everyone wants starts into long straights.

I bit of listening to participants would go a long way. A few TAB meeting on straight tracks won't hurt though, but cannot be purely straight racing.


Straight track racing is specialty not all dogs handle it and you will still get interference from dogs going left from box 8 going right from box 1. We may very well end up like Britain 6 dogs and preferential box draw

Preferential Box Draw should have been trialled before 6 Dog Fields were recommended here in N.S.W.


Michael Barry
Australia
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Posts 6335
Dogs 26 / Races 9

15 Jul 2017 09:24


here it is
EXTERNAL LINK


Mark Staines
Australia
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Posts 2922
Dogs 68 / Races 13

15 Jul 2017 09:28


University Students roflmao


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