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John Marriott United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 581 Dogs 24 / Races 4 21 Aug 2017 11:11
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Carole Brown wrote:
Dogs are get sick and tired of chasing flying rags and getting no reward. It's only going to get worse.
Carole, My main paddock/field is full of bits of old rags, they started out as old jumpers or pairs of jeans, kids teddy bears etc and ended up getting torn into 100's of pieces.Old rags are the incentive, it's all fun to them.
IMO the main problem in Australia is the choice of bitch to breed from. My own research (amongst our own stud books) shows that when people breed from disqualified, awkward, or non chasers (they are all not chasing really), that only 1 in every 3 greyhounds actually make it to the track.
For this reason, I PERSONALLY only ever breed from bitches who are both fast enough, AND SUPER KEEN. I can give any of my broods a lure with a squeaker in it, go away for 10 minutes, and when I come back they will still be playing with it ragging and making it squeak.
In the last 8/9 years, EVERY pup that I have reared here has made the track unless they were injured (broken hock etc).
The TRAINING for the pups starts at just 4/5 weeks old, and is a must before 7 weeks old. My pups do not need 'teasing' to chase, they want to do it.
Until people realise that by breeding from 'problem' bitches (or using stud dogs that aren't quite at it) they are only adding to the problem - not solving it. IT WON'T CHANGE OVERNIGHT but long term you will see a real difference.
Don't kid yourself that you can 'straighten them out'.
In short, Keen bitch keen dog good rearing happy days.
Anthony Jeffress Australia (Verified User) Posts 3669 Dogs 54 / Races 10 23 Aug 2017 00:49
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Race 7 Nowra Monday night. A big run from the 7 dog. That was until ... :
Michael Geraghty Australia (Verified User) Posts 4138 Dogs 14 / Races 15 24 Aug 2017 11:56
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This is very disappointing...
From now on, Qld GAP now require ALL Greyhounds to undergo a Vet exam and behaviour assessment BEFORE entry.
I've been told it is quite comprehensive and the Vet will have to sign off on it. The cost of such an examination is anyone's guess, that's if you can find a Vet to put their name to a submission that becomes part of the intake.
It is a HUGE BACKWARD STEP and potentially halts the progress made by GAP in recent times, whereas in other states they are EXPANDING. I'm sure some owners will now consider GAP too hard and the large amount of staff may have a lot more time on their hands.
Whoever thought of this is heading in the wrong direction. They some time ago waived entry fees for owners and the response has been great, NOW they have decided to make it HARDER!
WHY?!?!?!?
"G.A.P. Bound" may soon be less relevant.
Steven Martin Australia (Verified User) Posts 7681 Dogs 180 / Races 66 31 Aug 2017 08:15
Didn't get done for marring Steve, Stewards said they bumped, I wish they had been at Wagga the night we got rubbed out for life a month ago. - Macwollie
Terry Jordan Australia (Verified User) Posts 6013 Dogs 0 / Races 0 04 Sep 2017 01:23
Didn't get done for marring Steve, Stewards said they bumped, I
wish they had been at Wagga the night we got rubbed out for life a month ago. - Macwollie Should of showed them your get outta jail free card! St. Kilda Membership. It makes everyone feel sympathetic and sorry. Huss
Peter Gurry Australia (Verified User) Posts 9248 Dogs 18 / Races 25 04 Sep 2017 03:18
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Oh well Huss Jordan there's always the next edition of the Ballina Bugle to look forward to Thursday. - Macwollie
Anthony Jeffress Australia (Verified User) Posts 3669 Dogs 54 / Races 10 07 Sep 2017 03:53
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The Meadows yesterday ... The "You Go First ... No, You go First" Stakes by the looks of this ...
Steven Martin Australia (Verified User) Posts 7681 Dogs 180 / Races 66 07 Sep 2017 04:19
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Really Ant or others....Is the BLUE coloured lure assisting dogs to chase better???
I know they've done studies etc & made the change some 12 months ago to this colour, but really.....BLUE????
Steven Martin Australia (Verified User) Posts 7681 Dogs 180 / Races 66 07 Sep 2017 19:42
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Box 3 down the back....chasing a tiny BLUE piece of nothing ---> EXTERNAL LINK
Carole Brown Australia (Verified User) Posts 32355 Dogs 185 / Races 2 07 Sep 2017 20:43
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Ridiculous, isn't it, Steven. No wonder there are so many dogs not interested. They were never meant to chase rags flying in the air.
Michael Geraghty Australia (Verified User) Posts 4138 Dogs 14 / Races 15 07 Sep 2017 21:08
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steven martin wrote:
Really Ant or others....Is the BLUE coloured lure assisting dogs to chase better???
I know they've done studies etc & made the change some 12 months ago to this colour, but really.....BLUE????
I have a few dogs in the kennel who I think are gay so I showed them a pink rag. Well bugger me dead they seem to like it, so I call on the clubs to show sexual equality, damn it! Let's have Blue and PINK flapping pieces of rotten synthetics in the name of fairness for the gender bender dogs out there. With the current issues of same sex marriage and squatting male dogs and confused bitches who think they are male boxers, we should demand pink AND blue lures in the name of fairness and work place equality.
Carole Brown Australia (Verified User) Posts 32355 Dogs 185 / Races 2 07 Sep 2017 21:13
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Good one, Michael !!
Raymond Peter Fewings Australia (Verified User) Posts 248 Dogs 0 / Races 0 07 Sep 2017 22:39
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We like to think we are the world leader in greyhound racing but the Irish lure running along at ground level, altering course and twitching tail is so much more natural. There would not be many dogs who would not chase it. Agreed they have it too far in front but that is due to outside lure. Only lunatic dogs will chase a mid-air towel for very long. Lure should look like a hard and run low down like a hard.
Raymond Peter Fewings Australia (Verified User) Posts 248 Dogs 0 / Races 0 07 Sep 2017 22:40
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We like to think we are the world leader in greyhound racing but the Irish lure running along at ground level, altering course and twitching tail is so much more natural. There would not be many dogs who would not chase it. Agreed they have it too far in front but that is due to outside lure. Only lunatic dogs will chase a mid-air towel for very long. Lure should look like a hare and run low down like a hare.
Carole Brown Australia (Verified User) Posts 32355 Dogs 185 / Races 2 07 Sep 2017 22:57
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The New Zealanders do a great job with their finish on lure for their dogs. I cannot see any reason why we cannot do the same thing here. Their dogs seem to CHASE very well and love their REWARD.
Michael Geraghty Australia (Verified User) Posts 4138 Dogs 14 / Races 15 07 Sep 2017 22:59
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Raymond Peter Fewings wrote:
We like to think we are the world leader in greyhound racing but the Irish lure running along at ground level, altering course and twitching tail is so much more natural. There would not be many dogs who would not chase it. Agreed they have it too far in front but that is due to outside lure. Only lunatic dogs will chase a mid-air towel for very long. Lure should look like a hard(on) and run low down like a hard(on).
My gay boys would like that. For the safe sex conscious dogs we could maybe have a condom on the lure too...preferably PINK.
Dogs are get sick and tired of chasing flying rags and getting no reward. It's only going to get worse.
Carole, My main paddock/field is full of bits of old rags, they started out as old jumpers or pairs of jeans, kids teddy bears etc and ended up getting torn into 100's of pieces.Old rags are the incentive, it's all fun to them.
IMO the main problem in Australia is the choice of bitch to breed from. My own research (amongst our own stud books) shows that when people breed from disqualified, awkward, or non chasers (they are all not chasing really), that only 1 in every 3 greyhounds actually make it to the track.
For this reason, I PERSONALLY only ever breed from bitches who are both fast enough, AND SUPER KEEN. I can give any of my broods a lure with a squeaker in it, go away for 10 minutes, and when I come back they will still be playing with it ragging and making it squeak.
In the last 8/9 years, EVERY pup that I have reared here has made the track unless they were injured (broken hock etc).
The TRAINING for the pups starts at just 4/5 weeks old, and is a must before 7 weeks old. My pups do not need 'teasing' to chase, they want to do it.
Until people realise that by breeding from 'problem' bitches (or using stud dogs that aren't quite at it) they are only adding to the problem - not solving it. IT WON'T CHANGE OVERNIGHT but long term you will see a real difference.
Don't kid yourself that you can 'straighten them out'.
In short, Keen bitch keen dog good rearing happy days.
I love your blue print John
Steven Martin Australia (Verified User) Posts 7681 Dogs 180 / Races 66 08 Sep 2017 01:35
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Michael Geraghty wrote:
I have a few dogs in the kennel who I think are gay so I showed them a pink rag. Well bugger me dead they seem to like it, so I call on the clubs to show sexual equality, damn it! Let's have Blue and PINK flapping pieces of rotten synthetics in the name of fairness for the gender bender dogs out there. With the current issues of same sex marriage and squatting male dogs and confused bitches who think they are male boxers, we should demand pink AND blue lures in the name of fairness and work place equality.
You totally crack me up Michael. Lol.
As funny as that is, it's probably only a rainbow cloud around the corner.
But why stop there. Why don't we add some glitter to the PINK flapping pieces of rotten synthetics. What about a chain instead of rope that suspends the "Bitza of this..Bitza off that" off the ground, for that really gay I want to chase look. And maybe a bag full of custard as a reward for the first dog that stick his nose in.
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