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Steven Martin
Australia
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26 Jul 2017 12:34


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With the current banning of any kind of incentives that may keep the greyhound focused on chasing 100%.....things such as a dirty old sheep skin, god forbid a chicken carcass or even something as simply a bone or a feather, even a sausage (no sauce thx may swab), some races are becoming a joke.

The list of greyhounds that "Fail to Chase" during race conditions is GROWING by the week.....& the trend is adding to the shortage of greyhounds bred over the last 2 years.

Something needs to done ASAP to help encourage & reverse the ever increasing NON-CHASER.

Here's some recent races.

3 pulls up & 2 says hello ---> EXTERNAL LINK

4 & 2 ---> EXTERNAL LINK

3 ---> EXTERNAL LINK
8 ---> EXTERNAL LINK
5 ---> EXTERNAL LINK

Take your pick ---> EXTERNAL LINK

If you notice a race that shows evidence of NON-CHASING, copy the WWW-Address, & post it here.

Please note that all races chosen are in no way personal towards any owner or trainer, but are purely randomly based on recent video evidence available.


Wayne Verrall
Australia
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26 Jul 2017 22:24


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Steven, some one like u that stands up and puts ur point across, I applaud u, I have been saying for a while now with so many pathway races , there is more non chasers around than ever before ,why would a punter do the form then punt in these races


Trevor John Rhodes
Australia
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27 Jul 2017 00:41


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EXTERNAL LINK



Andrew Plasier
Australia
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27 Jul 2017 03:26


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Jeez u would not be happy if u backed the 3! it had it won then had a play,thats wat these green softies want playfull little pets,mite as well race poodles!



Steven Martin
Australia
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27 Jul 2017 04:03


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wayne verrall wrote:

Steven, some one like u that stands up and puts ur point across, I applaud u, I have been saying for a while now with so many pathway races , there is more non chasers around than ever before ,why would a punter do the form then punt in these races


10 years ago Wayne, if somebody had of exposed a NON-CHASE via the net, they would have been shot down in a flash & accused of having an agenda or the like.

Well the only agenda I've got...is to prove the agenda that the boffins have recently orchestrated is working.

They tried to close the industry down with a stroke of the pen in 1 State, but it backfired.....so their doing it by default & over regulation of the industry is the theme.

We need a NATIONAL BODY who will stand up to these argy-bargy tactics, but I'm afraid by the time it happens, it'll be all to late.

We've tried the avenue of raising money to fight the cause, & we did so to the tune of Half a million dollars. What a GREAT EFFORT. But it's achieved nothing (well I haven't seen any proof) & we're going DOWN THE HILL quicker then a truck with no brakes.

Anyway.....Post your DVD's as they happen like Trevor has done. What a ripper but who I really feel sorry for is the owners as AS the current rules stand, their hands are tied if they (us) can't provide "Food rewards" when training, like they do when training dogs to run through hoops & play fetch.

It's a joke.


Mark Staines
Australia
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Dogs 68 / Races 14

27 Jul 2017 04:36


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WE HAVE "ANTI GREYHOUNDS AUSTRALASIA"/OXYGEN THIEFS.


Michael Geraghty
Australia
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27 Jul 2017 04:51


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You're probably going to get a little flak from sensitive owners/breeders for this, Steve.
I'm with you 100% on what you trying to prove though.

It is nothing more than a joke and promotes early retirement and immense strain on depleting race pools and GAP.



Mark Schlegel
Australia
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27 Jul 2017 04:59


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The "no carcass" rules are DIRECTLY responsible for hundreds, if not thousands of dogs being prematurely retired or not ever making it to the track in the first place.

It is the MOST anti-welfare action ever undertaken......and it was introduced by the very people that proclaim to be the guardians of our industry.

Unfortunately, the irony is lost on them!





Steven Martin
Australia
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27 Jul 2017 05:07


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I totally understand Michael, but the thread is not about Sires or Damlines or Owners or Trainers. If that's brought into the equation, I'll personal report the post.

It's about what's happening to the chase in our sport.
I've never seen it so bad & it's thanks to those that think they know best....But it goes deep than that.



Dan Hollywood
Australia
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27 Jul 2017 09:18


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Mark Schlegel wrote:

The "no carcass" rules are DIRECTLY responsible for hundreds, if not thousands of dogs being prematurely retired or not ever making it to the track in the first place.

It is the MOST anti-welfare action ever undertaken......and it was introduced by the very people that proclaim to be the guardians of our industry.

Unfortunately, the irony is lost on them!

I reckon you could put more blame on the Control Boards as they seem to be more interested in appeasing the activists and members of political parties.


Mark Staines
Australia
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27 Jul 2017 09:47


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The GBOTA / Scott have a Remedy, straight racing only with 6 Dog fields, what hope does this industry have in N.S.W. ???


Kevin Murnane
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27 Jul 2017 13:44


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Hi Dan you are spot on with your comments that's why there is so much pathway racing pay us trainers and owners shit prize money while the governing bodies get paid or over paid I should say way to much for what they do we as paticipants who provide the product are getting shit on from great heights the word appeasing will bring us all down I got off the subject a bit but it all comes under the one umbrella


Kev Galloway
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27 Jul 2017 23:36


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Dan Hollywood wrote:

Mark Schlegel wrote:

The "no carcass" rules are DIRECTLY responsible for hundreds, if not thousands of dogs being prematurely retired or not ever making it to the track in the first place.

It is the MOST anti-welfare action ever undertaken......and it was introduced by the very people that proclaim to be the guardians of our industry.

Unfortunately, the irony is lost on them!

I reckon you could put more blame on the Control Boards as they seem to be more interested in appeasing the activists and members of political parties.


NOTHING will change while the control boards are too gutless to rein in their Greyhounds Australasia Representatives,all states must share the blame.



Dan Hollywood
Australia
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31 Jul 2017 10:57


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Kev how can control boards justify their positons when they have set out to make it too difficult for many hobby breeders/owners and trainers to stay in the industry. Participants have been screeming for years to only be ignored and when it finally hits the fan the onus is directed at participants. I have not seen one State control board stand up in defence of the industry that pays them so well. Their support is directly opposed to the majority and what they believe is the best way to go forward.


Mark Staines
Australia
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31 Jul 2017 11:38


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The Boards are State Government appointed that's why!


Anthony Jeffress
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31 Jul 2017 12:04


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Race 6 Albion Park tonight ...

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Trevor John Rhodes
Australia
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31 Jul 2017 12:53


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EXTERNAL LINK


Patrick D'Arcy
Australia
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Dogs 3 / Races 0

31 Jul 2017 13:13


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Trevor John Rhodes wrote:

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Magic's future in racing looks sealed. By seriously, non chasers have been & will always be part of racing



Andrew Plasier
Australia
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01 Aug 2017 00:23


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True patrick,but not one in every meeting,at least!



Steven Martin
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01 Aug 2017 05:12


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Patrick D'Arcy wrote:

Trevor John Rhodes wrote:

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Magic's future in racing looks sealed. By seriously, non chasers have been & will always be part of racing


Trevor. That would have to be one of the worst I've ever seen.

Pat. Nonnie's will always be there TRUE.....But it's getting worse.

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