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Terry Jordan
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Terry Jordan wrote:

simon moore wrote:

They obviously didnt learn from the greyhound racing disaster.

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This should give us great hope, and at least some optimism, if Gladys continues with her blindness over the Stadia. She looks uncertain and loses composure when questioned on this decision. Foley and others predict, it will be her downfall. (Baird's involved somewhere in all this IMO)

Bruce: Your backed another loser! Alan Jones and Moore Park! take of the Blinkers mate, and Smell the Roses, Gladys is on a slippery slope. Needs to stop backing Bairds proposals!


Mark Staines
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29 Mar 2018 07:25


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Troy Grant is running the show !


Mark Donohue
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29 Mar 2018 09:37


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Michael Photis / Lobby Group Company is very good friends with Gladys Berejiklian. Then, there are the others.

I see that Gladys has learned the backflip.


Bruce Teague
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29 Mar 2018 22:28


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Mark Staines wrote:

Troy Grant is running the show !

Really? After losing the Orange seat to SFF? I don't think so.

At the moment, there are a few facts at the top of the list.

First, some Lib/Nat pollies personally and publicly opposed the ban. That tells you that there is an underlying thread of support to work with. It's a start.

Second, SFF will help the cause by putting dogs on the agenda. That's good but it is not definitive of itself, even with a slight increase in parliamentary numbers. Remember that SFF has an array of campaigns on the go, some of which are strongly opposed - eg National Parks management. Currently, guns are not the flavour of the month.

Third, Labor dilly dallies from state to state depending on whatever it takes to get the numbers - witness the ACT and Batman elections and actions. Foley made a correct tactical decision to oppose the ban and gained a few brownie points. Any major reform is a different ball game entirely. We know the troops fell in beside Foley as they saw the potential for more votes across the state. What they will do when the chips are down is in the lap of the gods.

Fourth, Iemma is a former state Labor Premier and now chairman of GRNSW. Since all the changes and appointments were made, what has he said - about anything? Nothing. Only Mestrov is in public view. But Iemma presided over a Baird-inspired list of expensive new restrictions while running the tame Reform Panel.

Fifth, Minister Toole is obviously not a good bet since he spoke and voted in favour of the ban, despite coming from a strong-ish greyhound electorate (and adjacent to Orange). But bear in mind that anyone getting the racing gig is usually low on the totem pole (Grant, the ex-policeman, was an exception but only because he wanted to grab all the power he could).

Sixth, Gladys is the mystery bet. We have no idea which way she will push, or for what. The grass roots industry does not really know what it wants either but you can assume that both commercial and integrity arms at the top will be pushing ahead with what is already on the table - no more, no less. They are not about to change this side of the election.

Conclusion: no changes will occur this side of the next election. To bring about change after that it is necessary to (a) agree on what sort of change is required,(b) put up a wide-ranging and well-backed case to support it, and (c) put that case to anyone and everyone who might listen, and do it repeatedly. Never mind that you get only auto-replies etc, just keep doing it. Numbers will eventually win out. Rants will not.




Mark Donohue
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30 Mar 2018 05:07


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Bruce wrote,
First, some Lib/Nat pollies personally and publicly opposed the ban. That tells you that there is an underlying thread of support to work with. It's a start.

It tells me the majority favoured the Ban and voted that way. Youre referring to about four. Stop twisting the facts and figures to suit your support for the Lib/Nats. Its blatantly obvious.


Simon Moore
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30 Mar 2018 08:28


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I know how ridiculous hey.

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