GRNSW made a lawful and reasonable decision on a long established subject. To do less would be to leave themselves open to charges of dereliction of duty. To say nothing of providing ammunition to anti-racing groups in their efforts to close down the industry.

Wheeler pleaded guilty.

Emotional objections to the decision are not only silly but paint a picture of a group not to be trusted in the future.

It will not help irrational COP provisions (as just announced in Vic) to be countered by good arguments. Ditto for puppy bonds and the like.

If you don't like the export policy, then campaign against the rule - with good evidence - and get the rule changed.

Pmsl would you just shut your doors when it's makes mega bucks? Right or wrong PAW will just pay the fine or fight the charge. The fine is pittance for someone who's dogs turn over Millions n millions each year.

NOTHING WILL CHANGE Wheelers will still breed race there dogs.

Bruce,campaign to WHO ???? Dont you think participants have tried all the CRAP you are rambling on about over the past couple of years,the PTB dont want to listen and will NOT listen.IMO we are up the creek with out a paddle thanks to those who went in to bat for US and then crawled into a whole when the pressure was on.What we have to do now is ride the storm out for NOW till the next elections and HOPE AND PRAY some political party comes to our rescue,If you have all these great ideas Bruce and you think they may work,get the ball rolling and im SURE you will have many jump on board.

Cheers Noel

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Starts at the 20 second mark to the 2 minutes 30

This is the single biggest rubbish statement I have ever seen on this website.

I went to some trouble to answer that query in another thread.

As part of that I said we have done nothing but "moan and groan" so we need to get organised.

I offered a similar answer when people ranted and raved about trialling with skins but people are listening only to those who agree with their beliefs.

Bureaucrats eat moans and groans for breakfast, especially when they do not contain reasoned arguments.

It's not my fault that the GBOTA is of no use or that NCA suicided and that there is nothing else available. It's your fault. Nothing personal intended but this rubbish has been going on for years and years and has got nowhere. I warned Gordon that he had to get to GRNSW before worrying about the Gardens. He disagreed. I warned Scott & co that they needed a sharper pencil about a few matters (mostly legal). He declined. Alliance said it would attack the Canberra threat. It hasn't.

I was right and they were wrong but it doesn't help much does it?

You have a concrete stake in the industry - I don't, except emotionally. But I hate seeing injustice - and I offer reasons. And I have put a case for reform to every Minister in the country - repeatedly. But one man rarely wins, numbers do. Just ask Carly for a drink of water.

And there are two reasons why you should not wait for the next election. First, action is needed now as more regulations and fees will be put in place long before then. Second, there is no guarantee that a different party in power (you mean Labor) will be of any help. Anyway, if I had to bet now it would be on Libs/Nats retaining power, perhaps with a reduced majority. (Check your local bookie).

My latest tip - don't try for a change in the export policy. You would lose, hands down, guarantee it. Other subjects - different story.

Agree 1000%.

Terry the one thing this industry doesn't need is a one man band. I'm a massive fan of PAW but for our industry to thrive it needs more owners-breeders not PAW to breed more.

Who provides the prizemoney Huss?
Geez its not that hard to understand.
I read a few years ago that Wheeler supplied 2% of dogs and won 7% of prizemoney.
So if he does pull out, and I dont care if he goes or stays, it won't have the impact that you and your mates believe.
And yes, me and Langers are doing our part by breeding litters.

I would think there would be a huge impact but more a loss to the industry through a participant who has taken it to another level. I thought after witnessing the 2011 Melbourne Cup that a feat like this may never be repeated, and am positive it wont as Control Boards continue to bring the industry to its knees. Paw stated he would pull out if NSW banned the industry, luckily it didn't happen as it would have been a huge loss, not just through the numbers he supplies but all those who seek his advice.

I addressed the export subject earlier but it's hard to believe that people would complain about what the Wheeler dynasty has done in general (father and son, don't forget).

Even to a mug like me it is obvious that it developed the greatest damline in the history of Australian greyhound racing. So good was it that it needed a long string of professional trainers to handle the output and make their way to the winning post and their banks.

That did not happen overnight and it had its ups and downs, hence the introduction of USA and other fresh blood. But it always returned to a consistent upward graph line over time.

I am aware that many do not like what they see as a domination of the industry by a minority. To which I say - tough! Nothing is to stop anyone else doing the same thing on a small or large scale.

The Wheelers have set a standard which anyone can follow. It is also unique in racing as it does not apply, as such, to the other two codes - ie to an owner/breeder who leads the industry. It happened despite lots of regulatory hassles and it was not without judgment problems (I would criticise a lack of attention to drug use down the line).

To his credit, PAW tried to improve the industry when he joined the NSW GRA board some years back (along with England and Ahrens). Alas, unknown circumstances forced the three to resign, which tells us more about how GRA operated than about the worth of the new members. Of course, that was also a time when one of the worst Ministers we have ever had (Richard Face - later convicted) mandated that all deliberations must be confidential.

Heaven knows how or why PAW busted the export rules but nobody is perfect and it is now history. Meantime, at half speed or not, the Wheeler dynasty has added hugely to the value of the Australian industry and, by osmosis, to the fortunes of owners, breeders and trainers everywhere. Count your blessings.

The major challenge now is to convince all Australian administrations to adopt the same way of thinking. Look for long term winners.

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We will never know what really transpired behind the scenes but two things I want to comment on is,

1. PAW being banned from living at his family home. In Victoria, VCAT has already made a precedence that no registered person can be put out of there family home if disqualified (Mallia-Magri) set that tone and the recent Jason Thompson disqual example.

2. The fine $22,000, seems like a lot and I am not judging it either way, just seeing it from another perspective that it is 4 Fernando Bale straws.

When participants break the rules all hell breaks loose, but when authority employee's break the rules it gets banished into the ether.

NSW people know what I am talking about, where is the media release on that one?