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GRNSW's Strategic Planpage  1 2 3 

Carly Absalom
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Terry, I have asked them what it means.

In my draft I have got the question as; "What does align prize money with racing and welfare outcomes mean? Racing outcomes I get, first place gets more than second etc but I don't know what prizemoney in relation to welfare outcomes entails. I cannot provide feedback unless there is some detail attached to it."

I dread to think how much it cost. I don't get why they have to keep employing more staff when they seem to outsource everything.


Terry Jordan
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03 Jun 2018 07:53


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Carly Absalom wrote:

Terry, I have asked them what it means.

In my draft I have got the question as; "What does align prize money with racing and welfare outcomes mean? Racing outcomes I get, first place gets more than second etc but I don't know what prizemoney in relation to welfare outcomes entails. I cannot provide feedback unless there is some detail attached to it."

I dread to think how much it cost. I don't get why they have to keep employing more staff when they seem to outsource everything.


Thanks Carly:
How can we GRNSW achieve "Worlds Best Practices" When we FAIL dismally behind Victoria in our own Country!

How much has already been spent on Studies to both WDA, and UTS?

Will guarantee they achieve the MOST SPENDING on Rehoming, not necessarily the most Dogs rehomed! Alas



Michael Barry
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03 Jun 2018 09:48


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looks like they are starting to get the picture , mayb a few more trips are needed , lol

In other animal welfare news, last month GRV was pleased to spend time with a team from GRNSW led by its CEO, Tony Mestrov, who visited GAP at Seymour and met with GRVs senior management to discuss more interstate co-operation in developing re-homing strategies. And this month, GAP will host another major adoption event at Seymour on 15-16 June.

Looking ahead, we have the Bendigo Cup heats on 1 July and the exciting news that this years TAB Melbourne Cup Carnival will now offer $1 million in prizemoney and more events on the night of the final. You can find out more about this and what else is coming down the track in this edition of Greyhound Monthly Victoria.


Graeme Beasley
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03 Jun 2018 10:13


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Carly Absalom wrote:

Graeme,

My understanding is that incorporating it just meant making it more accessible to get from Wentworth Park to other areas in the Bays Precinct (eg closing roads or building walkways to make it easier to walk from fish markets to Wentworth Park).

I was also of the understanding that including Wentworth Park in there was a win for us because Wentworth Park is classified as green space and it meant they had enough green space in the precinct then. This meant that Mike Baird couldnt just sell it off to developers because it would have to remain as green space. (I think it allowed apartments to be built somewhere else in the precinct so still a win for developers.)

Nicholas,

I agree with what you said but I think we still need to put in feedback. If we dont they will say we consulted and they didnt complain. My feedback will mostly consist of pointing out why I cant provide feedback. eg on implement our community engagement plan I am writing something like, I cant find the community engagement plan. I did check the website. I cant provide feedback on something I havent seen.

I know you're usually as suspicious as I am Carly but I'd be wary of trusting those in charge, at all. I don't see anything about greyhound racing here EXTERNAL LINK but I do see a football ground in WP's future. It's in fact an 'immediate priority'.


Gary Brown
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03 Jun 2018 11:14


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Graeme may I preface by saying I am on your side

However I am concerned that on the home page the latest news has not been updated since 25 July 2017!

EXTERNAL LINK


Bill Deguara
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03 Jun 2018 12:55


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Gary Brown wrote:

Graeme may I preface by saying I am on your side

However I am concerned that on the home page the latest news has not been updated since 25 July 2017!

EXTERNAL LINK

maybe now would be a good time for GRNSW to make a deal with the state government about vacating WP at a price and then we can move on to another project.


Gary Brown
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bill deguara wrote:

Gary Brown wrote:

Graeme may I preface by saying I am on your side

However I am concerned that on the home page the latest news has not been updated since 25 July 2017!

EXTERNAL LINK

maybe now would be a good time for GRNSW to make a deal with the state government about vacating WP at a price and then we can move on to another project.

Bill it is "rumoured" the GBOTA want another 7 year lease for WP!



Gary Brown
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bill deguara wrote:

Gary Brown wrote:

Graeme may I preface by saying I am on your side

However I am concerned that on the home page the latest news has not been updated since 25 July 2017!

EXTERNAL LINK

Bill it is "rumoured" the GBOTA want another 7 year lease for WP!
maybe now would be a good time for GRNSW to make a deal with the state government about vacating WP at a price and then we can move on to another project.





Terry Jordan
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03 Jun 2018 22:57


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Gary Brown wrote:

bill deguara wrote:

Gary Brown wrote:

Graeme may I preface by saying I am on your side

However I am concerned that on the home page the latest news has not been updated since 25 July 2017!

EXTERNAL LINK

Bill it is "rumoured" the GBOTA want another 7 year lease for WP!
maybe now would be a good time for GRNSW to make a deal with the state government about vacating WP at a price and then we can move on to another project.


It's a good time now for GRNSW to approach Gladys for "Infrastructure Funding" while she is spending Money madly shoring up votes for the next election. After all we are a
Government funded entity.


Mark Staines
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03 Jun 2018 23:31


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It was $41,000,000, over five years and there will be no more if i remember correctly !


James Saunders
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04 Jun 2018 00:20


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That figure was accepted and rejoiced by the alliance.The same group that were only looking after there own pay packets.


Terry Jordan
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Mark Staines wrote:

It was $41,000,000, over five years and there will be no more if i remember correctly !

Yes Mark: Westconnex project was $10 Billion!! now estimated to cost $45 Billion!!! Always room to negotiate with Governments, when elections are imminent. (Don't ask, you'll get nothing)


Bruce Teague
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04 Jun 2018 03:45


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Graeme,

Wenty is already football friendly - the centre of the track and the soccer grounds outside.

I would discount any possibility of a Parramatta Stadium style deal as it would never satisfy parking needs alone - even if you bulldozed the track and blew down the grandstand - never mind community and Greenie objections to noise, traffic, park damage and alienation of green space.



Mark Donohue
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04 Jun 2018 04:04


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Mark Staines wrote:

It was $41,000,000, over five years and there will be no more if i remember correctly !

Correct Mark. Gone in about three (3) years at the current rate of employing people at GRNSW and GWIC.

$30 million to GRNSW and $11 million to GWIC

Isn't funny that the first track to have major work done to it was the GRNSW owned The Gardens (if it wasn't Gosford), followed by the GBOTA operated Gosford then Gunnedah.

Why has it cost so much to re-build all of them ? Is it for their rationalisation process where track numbers will go from 33 down to 14 ??




Mark Staines
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Lol yes Mark the GBOTA has always put the GBOTA first !


Mark Donohue
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Responsible, Competitive, Sustainable

I won't waste too much of your time. So I'll comment on page one.

Leaders.
Comment: All I can write is that most of us have been responsible participants, but for a small number of persons who have been penalised. Some of them, most probably should've challenged the B12 offences.

Safe Tracks.
Comment: We have been crying out for the past twenty to thirty years for safer tracks through design and starting points, so we don't have to re-invent the wheel to achieve good results.

The whole of life cycle.
Comment: It has been happening for at least three and half years so no big invention there. GAP NSW Ltd is interesting ! Who from GRNSW is operating it ??

Prize money ?
Comment: Long overdue. Give us 20 x $50k races, not one $1 million dollar race ! Bring back Country Championships or Regional Championships. Use the KISS method.
Revenue growth ?
Comment: Let's see what they can do.

Optimise Race Track Portfolio.
Comment: That sounds like racing regularly on the same track which means they are likely to drop the number of tracks from 33 to 14 (as mentioned in McHugh Rpt). Good luck if your dog doesn't race well at your nearest track. Pack some clothes and say goodbye to your family as you won't be home for a day or so.

Most registered clubs operate efficiently.
Comment: I'll write no more on this subject as some are much better than others.

Racing creates social, economic benefits in the communities t/out NSW.
Comment: Well it won't be spread across the entire State if the number of tracks are going to be reduced to 14 and travelling to and from tracks will be longer.





Grant Dunphy
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04 Jun 2018 23:52


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This is not a STRATEGIC PLAN-It is a WISH LIST hastily thrown together by GRNSW when they realised they are required to have a Strategic Plan in place by July.

This is a work related matter they can actually be judged on by the Board if it is not done.

A STRATEGIC PLAN is a document that lists GOALS that must be Achievable/Show Costings/Have an Action Commencement Date & a Projected Achievement(Completion) Date.



Carly Absalom
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Agree with you Grant. Though I don't think GRNSW even put it together. Seems when they remembered they had to do it they have paid PricewaterhouseCoopers to hastily throw something together.

I have put my feedback in. 4 pages (longer than their plan) that mostly consists of asking what things actually mean (eg "host Australia's largest race" is that richest, longest series, largest number of nominations, is it an existing race or a new race) and asking for a lot more detail in most areas.




Trevor Hagney
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05 Jun 2018 06:45


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This draft has been in the making for 10 months.There is probably a lot more detail than has been released.
MLC Borsack commented he will lobby for release of more detailed information.


Mark Donohue
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The GRNSW recently advised participants of its Three Year Strategic Plan as per the legislation. It is in draft form and its superficial. However, one issue that is being discussed is that they want to host the `largest greyhound race'. I don't understand what is meant by it. However, it is rumoured that it is a One Million Dollar Race. This idea is really in conflict with some if not most participants love of racing, as it isn't sharing our wealth and there is only one winner. We already have races with big prize money at Wenty Park !

GRNSW should be reinstating the Country Championships or creating Regional Championships for our dogs domiciled here in NSW. They have to be domiciled consistently here for at least six months and in one region, prior to the Series commencing. It would be Heats, Semi-Finals, Final in Regional Areas. The Heats and Semi-Finals could be at non-TAB Tracks and Final at the nearest TAB Track in their Region. Consolation Final could be at the next non-TAB track meeting within the region for $5,000 or at the nearest TAB Track.

Regions could be South/South-West, West, North/North-West, Mid-North Coast.

Prize money could be $2,500 to Heat Winners, $7,500 to Semi-Final Winners, and $15,000 to the Regional Championship Winner. Winner and R/Up in each Region could then contest the NSW Country Regional Championship Series Final at Wenty Park for $30,000.

You could have two of them each year and in each region and of course, at the same time.

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