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Peter Griffen Australia (Verified User) Posts 92 Dogs 21 / Races 0 19 Jul 2018 08:21
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Does anyone know how much we made out of it last financial year profit loss etc
Michael Barry Australia (Verified User) Posts 7402 Dogs 26 / Races 9 19 Jul 2018 09:11
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peter griffen wrote:
Does anyone know how much we made out of it last financial year profit loss etc
opened in march , so less than 90 trading days in the financial year what type of profit loss would you expect if it was your business operating for less than 90 days ????????????//
Peter Griffen Australia (Verified User) Posts 92 Dogs 21 / Races 0 19 Jul 2018 09:21
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A bussiness man like your self Mike would be able to tell me if we were meeting our daily costs and if it was growing you know profit and loss on the expenditure sheet
Michael Barry Australia (Verified User) Posts 7402 Dogs 26 / Races 9 19 Jul 2018 09:29
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peter griffen wrote:
A bussiness man like your self Mike would be able to tell me if we were meeting our daily costs and if it was growing you know profit and loss on the expenditure sheet
peter, i understand what your saying id say its not profitable at this stage , but we should give it at least 12/18 months , gotta give credit for trying new things ,,
and if this gap/ rehoming progaramme dosen't keep going the industry is in trouble , as you would know there is more and more young greyhounds joining that programme, because of idiotic rules and regulations
Peter Griffen Australia (Verified User) Posts 92 Dogs 21 / Races 0 19 Jul 2018 09:38
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Give the gap the money the foster carer's the money give them 18mts to help our industry the above all have a positive outlook and I will support them were ever I can
Don't worry about the "cafe". Sandown is about to unleash "indian casino racing to Australia". A few greedy ,quick buck opportunist's(the names will be familiar to all) are about to visit the American experience upon us. Contract racing!! breed , rear, race " casino dogs". Big money is up for grabs for greedy and short sighted opportunism. When it inevitably fails the con merchants walk away with a motza, leaving a trail of destruction and a non viable future. The "SANDOWN CANIDROME " is coming.!!!! Think MACAU???
Ross Farmer Australia (Verified User) Posts 208 Dogs 0 / Races 1 19 Jul 2018 22:31
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The GAP cafe is an attempt to introduce greyhounds to the public in a novel way.
Its performance needs to be considered by means other than just financial, in this case its strategic value.
It may not appeal to all as the best way to handle this , but I give credit to GRV for taking a positive step in making inroads into public perception.
Lets hope such baby steps are an indication of more to come in getting wider public acceptance.
Kevin Wright Australia (Verified User) Posts 5708 Dogs 1 / Races 1 19 Jul 2018 22:46
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Ross Farmer wrote:
The GAP cafe is an attempt to introduce greyhounds to the public in a novel way.
Its performance needs to be considered by means other than just financial, in this case its strategic value.
It may not appeal to all as the best way to handle this , but I give credit to GRV for taking a positive step in making inroads into public perception.
Lets hope such baby steps are an indication of more to come in getting wider public acceptance.
Ross i agree 100% but lets say it bleeds out 500k ....or even over 1 million as projected
500K to a mill.... i think a better way to spend this kind of bucks would be to develop a schools and retirement home programs ...
This enables us to share our experience of Kennel to home ...
Dogs for Life .
Establish Sky racing adds and TV adds ......Show how we care for our dogs from birth ...
Show the family side of the industry because we do it so well ..
I don't see any real initiatives coming forth this way by the PTB or the CLUBS but i do see a very greedy deal unfolding and that can only contain DISASTER for all of us .
Ross Farmer Australia (Verified User) Posts 208 Dogs 0 / Races 1 20 Jul 2018 09:21
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Kevin
I am being gracious. Something is better than nothing.
Kevin Wright Australia (Verified User) Posts 5708 Dogs 1 / Races 1 20 Jul 2018 10:01
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Ross Farmer wrote:
Kevin
I am being gracious. Something is better than nothing.
Fair enough I appreciate your passion Ross
Speak from your mind and people will hear you with their mind. Speak from your heart and people will hear you with their heart.
Leave safety behind. Put your body on the line. Stand before the people you fear and speak your mind even if your voice shakes. When you least expect it, someone may actually listen to what you have to say.
Well-aimed slingshots can topple giants.
Kevin Wright Australia (Verified User) Posts 5708 Dogs 1 / Races 1 08 Aug 2018 21:01
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CLOSED ... Bleed money from its first day.
500k Plus fit out
Huge WAGE bill
Lease on shop still current ..
I hear maybe a RSPCA Pet shop is being considered at the old cafe site ....Anyone heard this story contact AA and Grey2k ...ABC .
Nathan Jenner Australia (Verified User) Posts 45 Dogs 0 / Races 0 08 Aug 2018 21:15
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Kevin Wright wrote:
CLOSED ... Bleed money from its first day.
500k Plus fit out
Huge WAGE bill
Lease on shop still current ..
I hear maybe a RSPCA Pet shop is being considered at the old cafe site ....Anyone heard this story contact AA and Grey2k ...ABC .
I think a major part of the demise of the cafe is its location, foot traffic is limited and is really only looked at by thousands of people as they drive by each day.
Kevin Wright Australia (Verified User) Posts 5708 Dogs 1 / Races 1 08 Aug 2018 21:32
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Nathan Jenner wrote:
Kevin Wright wrote:
CLOSED ... Bleed money from its first day.
500k Plus fit out
Huge WAGE bill
Lease on shop still current ..
I hear maybe a RSPCA Pet shop is being considered at the old cafe site ....Anyone heard this story contact AA and Grey2k ...ABC .
I think a major part of the demise of the cafe is its location, foot traffic is limited and is really only looked at by thousands of people as they drive by each day.
I agree Nathan..100% ...Bad planning bad foresight ... Why didn't they buy into a well known CAFE ...
CAFE'S like Syndicates all fail
Charles W Mizzi Australia (Verified User) Posts 684 Dogs 1 / Races 1 08 Aug 2018 23:20
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Ross Farmer wrote:
Kevin
I am being gracious. Something is better than nothing.
A wise person once said to me Ross
"Some people say "something is better than nothing, sometimes nothing is better"
Someone has mentioned what Sandown is doing, American model, inexperienced amateur's, huge investment. They are missing the final part of the puzzle....in America they have a huge amount of adoption orgs, dogs go from racing kennels to these adoption orgs. The adoption orgs then work with the dogs to de tune them from racing and support them to the life after racing.
Considering the false and misleading wastage figure's provided by GA, that were then used by GRV to promote the overbreeding myth, which now has come to bite them on the bum, helping Trainers and owners in the American style would be a no brainer, but I guess you must have a brain first.
I, myself am looking after 5 retired dogs, we have rehomed most of our dogs through GAP, but if they fail back home they come. So the burden, financial and otherwise remains.
GRV are not open and transparent, like most of our greyhound authorities around the country they never take responsibility for their mistakes, which means you never learn from them. I guess the price we pay for having a Govt run industry and why so many other Industries have been privatised.
Come November we have a chance to correct the process back to the one that Denis Napthine started.
Kevin Wright Australia (Verified User) Posts 5708 Dogs 1 / Races 1 09 Aug 2018 04:22
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charles w mizzi wrote:
Ross Farmer wrote:
Kevin
I am being gracious. Something is better than nothing.
A wise person once said to me Ross
"Some people say "something is better than nothing, sometimes nothing is better"
Someone has mentioned what Sandown is doing, American model, inexperienced amateur's, huge investment. They are missing the final part of the puzzle....in America they have a huge amount of adoption orgs, dogs go from racing kennels to these adoption orgs. The adoption orgs then work with the dogs to de tune them from racing and support them to the life after racing.
Considering the false and misleading wastage figure's provided by GA, that were then used by GRV to promote the overbreeding myth, which now has come to bite them on the bum, helping Trainers and owners in the American style would be a no brainer, but I guess you must have a brain first.
I, myself am looking after 5 retired dogs, we have rehomed most of our dogs through GAP, but if they fail back home they come. So the burden, financial and otherwise remains.
GRV are not open and transparent, like most of our greyhound authorities around the country they never take responsibility for their mistakes, which means you never learn from them. I guess the price we pay for having a Govt run industry and why so many other Industries have been privatised.
Come November we have a chance to correct the process back to the one that Denis Napthine started.
We will VOTE... Labour are very concerned at the amount of bad press they get along with their Pals the Greens ..
Charles i come from a strong Labour family but i will be switching sides like many will it is about.... our survival..
Stop the ROT
Russ Forno Australia (Verified User) Posts 274 Dogs 0 / Races 0 09 Aug 2018 12:02
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G.A.P , Bad connotations for starters. Suicide spot Sydney heads. Prepared (6 months).Took no notice of the sacrificial goat (Pomeranian)' played with the trans gender greenies, but bucked up when testicles "played with". FAILED TEST!!! The employees are "animal activists". SUE ME!!! I apply the " dead diggers" test to everything? What would they say??? Every thing from immigration, global warming, LGBTIQUIZAQ, ... tHEY WOULD BE APPALLED!!!!!
Richard Gray Australia (Verified User) Posts 2231 Dogs 11 / Races 9 09 Aug 2018 12:30
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I have NO IDEA what that post is. (just saying)
Rich.
Kevin Wright Australia (Verified User) Posts 5708 Dogs 1 / Races 1 09 Aug 2018 18:38
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Russ Forno wrote:
G.A.P , Bad connotations for starters. Suicide spot Sydney heads. Prepared (6 months).Took no notice of the sacrificial goat (Pomeranian)' played with the trans gender greenies, but bucked up when testicles "played with". FAILED TEST!!! The employees are "animal activists". SUE ME!!! I apply the " dead diggers" test to everything? What would they say??? Every thing from immigration, global warming, LGBTIQUIZAQ, ... tHEY WOULD BE APPALLED!!!!!
For some strange reason i understand your post Russ Forno..lol
Michael Barry Australia (Verified User) Posts 7402 Dogs 26 / Races 9 12 Aug 2018 06:57
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charles w mizzi wrote:
Ross Farmer wrote:
Kevin
I am being gracious. Something is better than nothing.
A wise person once said to me Ross
"Some people say "something is better than nothing, sometimes nothing is better"
Someone has mentioned what Sandown is doing, American model, inexperienced amateur's, huge investment. They are missing the final part of the puzzle....in America they have a huge amount of adoption orgs, dogs go from racing kennels to these adoption orgs. The adoption orgs then work with the dogs to de tune them from racing and support them to the life after racing.
Considering the false and misleading wastage figure's provided by GA, that were then used by GRV to promote the overbreeding myth, which now has come to bite them on the bum, helping Trainers and owners in the American style would be a no brainer, but I guess you must have a brain first.
I, myself am looking after 5 retired dogs, we have rehomed most of our dogs through GAP, but if they fail back home they come. So the burden, financial and otherwise remains.
GRV are not open and transparent, like most of our greyhound authorities around the country they never take responsibility for their mistakes, which means you never learn from them. I guess the price we pay for having a Govt run industry and why so many other Industries have been privatised.
Come November we have a chance to correct the process back to the one that Denis Napthine started.
100 days out from election,, according to the front page of the sun today , its a labour win less a few seats
Hayden Gilders Australia (Verified User) Posts 993 Dogs 29 / Races 0 12 Aug 2018 07:19
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and theres vacant inner city premises to use as their ele tion headquarters
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