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Nathan Goodridge
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11 Nov 2018 19:30


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Does anyone know if the new NSW labour leader support and iris Greyhound racing?


Mark Donohue
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11 Nov 2018 20:03


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As far as I know yes, but I dont know about Iris.


Nathan Goodridge
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11 Nov 2018 20:17


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Stupid typo lol. I knew Foley supported us but was not sure about Daley. Im still very concerned about the future of the industry in NSW.


Tony Digiorgio
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11 Nov 2018 20:40


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If Daley wants the votes he'll have to support us.
Can we vote for the SFF at the next State Election?


Matt Griffiths
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11 Nov 2018 21:38


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If SFF don't have a candidate I will be voting for Mark Latham. Still think Luke Foley was hard done by, can't see him doing anything like he's being accused of.


Mark Donohue
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11 Nov 2018 22:02


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Youll be able to vote for SFF Party candidates in the Upper House (Legislative Council) as well as your local candidate if there is one standing in your electorate. There are about twenty across regional NSW.


Terry Jordan
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11 Nov 2018 23:59


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Daley: Old crusted dinosaur! would have preferred Minns, young voters would have been attracted to him. (yep I know he was about to out Foley on his driving).
All this couldn't have come at a worst time! PRE/PLANNED?

Agree with Mark, Number your Upper House vote! with SFF candidates.
Maybe our only hope!


Nathan Goodridge
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12 Nov 2018 05:55


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I am certain that if the liberals / Nats get in at the election they will close the Industry down. We must all ensure that they dont win the election for our survival of .


Bruce Teague
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Nathan Goodridge wrote:

I am certain that if the liberals / Nats get in at the election they will close the Industry down. We must all ensure that they dont win the election for our survival of .

Nathan,

Were I a bookie I would be offering 100/1 about LNP ever again trying to close down greyhound racing.

Having said that, a much bigger concern is Gov/GRNSW/GWIC spending too much on expenses and therefore reducing prize money in real and absolute terms, and/or cutting races/meetings. (Vic too).

The next biggest concern is Greens getting the balance of power. Make sure you put them last. (See the ACT and watch Vic on Nov 24).

The next biggest concern would be the failure to promote the world's greatest canine athlete in the public arena. That's the job of GRNSW but trainers can help, too.


Ray Brown
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12 Nov 2018 23:54


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I agree with Bruce, even the NSW liberals have to have leart a bitter lesson about closing down the greyhound industry, they would not possibly venture down that path again, even they are not that STUPID.
Nevertheless, We have to put SFFP first and GREENS last!



Sandro Bechini
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13 Nov 2018 01:59


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In this political environment I would not trust any of the major parties

They back-stab their own leaders at the drop of a hat

Either of them are just as likely to sell out the industry with another set of pretence and lies brought about by the factions in each party that are holding hands with the Greens

You saw what happened in Florida....the Casino operators held the hand of the anti's by not supporting the Greyhounds that they were coupled with in their licencing

Our biggest asset is ourselves and portraying ourselves to the public as responsible dog owners and at every point along the way promoting our positive aspects of our sport

We need to be punishing real wrongdoers heavily, those who are caught live baiting, treating dogs below an acceptable standard of care, unauthorised euthanasia or those and their living partners who use Category 1 drugs.

Not throwg the book at someone who is 0.1 namograms over the cobalt threshold or some poor pensioner who has forgotten to change the water for his dog that day.

In NSW, we need both GRNSW and GWIC and each State needs their Governing and Regulatory Body to get on board with the promotion of this sport, the public need to see the rehoming stories, thet need to see how a racing kennel actually works and how well the dogs are treated in their racing environment

These are the things that our detractors, the Greens, the Animal Justice Party, Animals Australia and some factions of the RSPCA, lie to our politicians about and convince them that our sport should be closed down

These are the things we need to fight and that all starts with every single participant who wants to enjoy this sport now and into the future

Politicians just believe what they want to believe that will keep them in office

Its the old saying, if it looks like a duck, and it smells like a duck, it must be a duck....when in fact it may be a swan, not getting its true recognition


Bruce Teague
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13 Nov 2018 21:08


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Sandro,

Very good points - couldn't agree more.

The USA situation is primarily due to three things ...

* There were good and bad trainers/owners but Grey2K & co got hold of the bad cases and multiplied their impact by using donated funds, media and publicity. The proportions did not matter as the nasty stuff resonated with the majority of voters - who in turn prompted the law change (also in Massachussets).

* Greyhound economics were impacted by the rise and rise of casinos (some on Native American reservations, some on site) which proved more lucrative to owners than racing did. Hence greyhound funding was always inferior to that of the antis. More people like pokies than they do racing.

* Defensive action by greyhound people was always just that - defensive rather than assertive or positive. Reactive rather than proactive. It was probably not helped by the fragmented nature of the USA industry.

One way or another, all these things are true in Australia, too. By far the major issue is that we have not got the public with us, mostly because we have not asked them or put up a decent story for them to support.

In turn, those running the sport are regulators, not promoters. As bureaucrats, they clearly do not understand the need to go out and sell the product - to get in first. They are all too busy shifting paper and policing trainers. That leaves the onus on other stakeholders to take up the slack, which means clubs and participants. Failure to do that will - to use an Americanism - let them nickel and dime you to death.

Incidentally, here's another hint - pups. Pups, pups and more pups. The mob will love them, much more so than their mums and dads. So show them. Human kids will then grow up knowing where the racing greyhound comes from.




Mark Donohue
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14 Nov 2018 00:53


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According to my source, Michael Daley either doesnt know much about greyhound racing, not interested in knowing a great deal about it or is not making out that he knows something about it.

You know who Im voting for. However, (there is always a however) last night for no particular reason, I was watching SBS and there was a short documentary on the Australian Sex Party. For one or two fleeting moments I thought about preferencing them after my main selection (if they have a candidate in NSW). I suppose the moral of the story is to remain focused as there will be obstacles to cross.


Nathan Goodridge
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14 Nov 2018 22:51


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This is a massive concern if he sits on the fence with the industry. Lets hope he only listens to the correct people who know how good our industry is. And not the dopes who want us closed


Sandro Bechini
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15 Nov 2018 01:32


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Just remember Labour traditionally gives their preferences to the Green nutters.




Bruce Teague
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15 Nov 2018 23:11


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Sandro Bechini wrote:

Just remember Labour traditionally gives their preferences to the Green nutters.

Sandro,

Less and less does Labor preference Greens because they fear they may give away first spot (see Shorten and the recent Vic by-election). Albo will have a distinct problem in Marrickville (Sydney) in the next Fed election, for example. In other cases they do when it suits them, knowing anyway that most Greens preferences will go to Labor anyway.

Greyhound's major hope is that a proliferation of candidates will split the Greens vote, thereby leaving one of the two majors in front and eliminating the danger of a Greens balance of power.

I would love to see more SFF seats but I fear they will be flat out holding on to what they have.




Mark Donohue
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16 Nov 2018 00:27


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I wrote it before and I'll write it again; the Greens Party is `on the nose'. However, they will retain some seats. The biggest improvers will be the SFF Party and possibly One Nation. Generally speaking, One Nation does not support greyhound racing so there is really only one party left: the SFF Party.

With all things being equal, they should pick up some Seats in the Lower House in NSW from regional areas. I predicted the SFF candidate for Orange would win the By-Election and he did. Even the Party thought he wouldn't. It was momentum.


Sandro Bechini
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16 Nov 2018 01:40


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The Conservative Party is really giving it to the Greens on social media




Ross Farmer
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16 Nov 2018 09:39


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Mark Donohue wrote:

According to my source, Michael Daley either doesnt know much about greyhound racing, not interested in knowing a great deal about it or is not making out that he knows something about it.

You know who Im voting for. However, (there is always a however) last night for no particular reason, I was watching SBS and there was a short documentary on the Australian Sex Party. For one or two fleeting moments I thought about preferencing them after my main selection (if they have a candidate in NSW). I suppose the moral of the story is to remain focused as there will be obstacles to cross.


Mark

The Australian Sex party (now Reason party) is preferencing the Greens in Victoria.


Mark Donohue
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16 Nov 2018 09:48


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Im not in Victoria, but I was only joking. Im focused.

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