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Tony Digiorgio Australia (Verified User) Posts 1008 Dogs 25 / Races 0 13 Apr 2019 19:56
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Last in the second at Wauchope: CLICK HERE Last in the third at Wauchope: CLICK HERE Last in the fifth at Wauchope: CLICK HERE Last in the sixth at Wauchope: CLICK HERE That's 4 out of 7 races conducted. You were saying Mark?
Tony Digiorgio Australia (Verified User) Posts 1008 Dogs 25 / Races 0 13 Apr 2019 19:59
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Sorry, I forgot to mention.
Two of them had 18.8% both sire and dam.
Tony Digiorgio Australia (Verified User) Posts 1008 Dogs 25 / Races 0 13 Apr 2019 20:16
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Tony Digiorgio wrote:
Sorry, I forgot to mention.
Two of them had 18.8% both sire and dam.
Sorry again, and may I add that one of them had 18.8% twice on the sire's side. 18.8% Black Shiraz 18.8% Token Prince 18.8% Malawi's Prince
Now on paper this bitch should be better than Winx !!!
Michael Barry Australia (Verified User) Posts 7402 Dogs 26 / Races 9 13 Apr 2019 23:29
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Tony Digiorgio wrote:
Last in the second at Wauchope: CLICK HERE Last in the third at Wauchope: CLICK HERE Last in the fifth at Wauchope: CLICK HERE Last in the sixth at Wauchope: CLICK HERE That's 4 out of 7 races conducted. You were saying Mark?
and 5 of the 10 winners at wenty last night had the magic number
Mark Staines Australia (Verified User) Posts 4497 Dogs 70 / Races 14 13 Apr 2019 23:59
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The "Prophets Of Doom" will say its just a coincidence Mick !!!!!!
Edward (Ted) Howard Australia (Verified User) Posts 1195 Dogs 16 / Races 0 14 Apr 2019 01:10
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Sounds like Tony owns the dogs at Wauchope
Tony Digiorgio Australia (Verified User) Posts 1008 Dogs 25 / Races 0 14 Apr 2019 01:42
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Not at all Ted.
Mine aren't good enough to race at Wauchope.
Edward (Ted) Howard Australia (Verified User) Posts 1195 Dogs 16 / Races 0 14 Apr 2019 02:07
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All good Tony some things work some things don't but nothing works all the time[ except me] and your lucky if it works at all.
I have seen this on another thread and was wondering why they think this. Cheers Ted.
Hi Ted,
I do know how the 18.8 % is derived..............the first generation BMO/Outlandish in this example CLICK HERE each of those is worth 50%.
The 2nd gen, 4 dogs each worth 25% The 3rd gen, 8 dogs each worth 12.5% The 4th gen, 16 dogs each worth 6.25%
Therefore in this case Awesome Assassin & Brett Lee in the 3rd(12.5%) & 4th gen(6.25%) = 18.75% rounded off to 18.8% each
So any dog duplicated in the 3rd & 4th gen of any pedigree wld equal 18.8% in the blood quota table.
I wldn't mind it included in a pedigree but it's not something I wld consider ultra important to have. and vastly different to the percentages I talk about. You're not alone in wanting to know why Ted. Cheers.
Edward (Ted) Howard Australia (Verified User) Posts 1195 Dogs 16 / Races 0 14 Apr 2019 23:54
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I cant comment as Im just a mug and go by gut feeling and have a pretty good understanding of my dogs and I don't follow UK dogs but it is the best aussie mixed with the best of UK.
Tony Digiorgio Australia (Verified User) Posts 1008 Dogs 25 / Races 0 15 Apr 2019 02:45
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Ted,
"Gut Feeling" is as good a theory as any other. The 18.8% breeding theory/formula is supposed to be a good method because it saturates the gene pool with what should be winning genes but it has just as much chance of failing as it has of being successful. The winning genes "don't" always line up when a mating takes place. Those that understand genetics will know this.
I recently watched a video on one of Belgium and Holland's top racing pigeon fanciers. His stock loft is overflowing with top bred birds but even he acknowledges that out of every 100 birds he breeds each year only 4 will be true champions or above average. The same theory will apply to greyhounds regardless of what some may think.
Raymond Peter Fewings Australia (Verified User) Posts 248 Dogs 0 / Races 0 15 Apr 2019 22:37
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Tony is correct re pigeons. Even top breeders will find three or four from a loft of 200 birds will determine a good or bad year. Many of pigeon breeders try all of the theories - line breeding, in breeding, outcrossing etc. One good breeding pair is all you need. Most are making up the numbers. I am sure the secret to success in greyhounds is finding the good brood bitch and then putting in full time on the pups. On the drag from 5 months and teaching them to change legs by running in open paddocks. Treat them like race dogs from day one.
Tony Digiorgio Australia (Verified User) Posts 1008 Dogs 25 / Races 0 16 Apr 2019 01:59
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Thanks Ray. I'm glad someone understands what I was trying to say. Although percentages help they can be hit or miss.
As far as I am concerned luck plays the biggest part when talking percentages with breeding.
Edward (Ted) Howard Australia (Verified User) Posts 1195 Dogs 16 / Races 0 16 Apr 2019 05:27
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Agree Tony but I think you increase your luck by putting a bit of thought into what brew your mixing.
Tony Digiorgio Australia (Verified User) Posts 1008 Dogs 25 / Races 0 16 Apr 2019 08:28
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edward (ted) howard wrote:
Agree Tony but I think you increase your luck by putting a bit of thought into what brew your mixing.
Granted Ted.
Matt Marshall Australia (Verified User) Posts 484 Dogs 5 / Races 0 16 Apr 2019 21:30
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Can someone do the mating please My redeemer x Mexican spice
Hopefully have some fun with that litter Uphill jills brother x striker lights sister
Tony Digiorgio Australia (Verified User) Posts 1008 Dogs 25 / Races 0 16 Apr 2019 22:03
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matt marshall wrote:
Can someone do the mating please My redeemer x Mexican spice
Hopefully have some fun with that litter Uphill jills brother x striker lights sister
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