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Craig Cooper
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includes an upfront $4mil to the greyhounds, still way short but a good start , the govt finally is listening


Robyn Mackellar
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Iím guessing participants wonít see a dime of it!!!!



Jamie Quinlivian
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Robyn Mackellar wrote:

Iím guessing participants wonít see a dime of it!!!!

Don't worry Robyn, you will have G-Four racing soon.
More chances to win.



Robyn Mackellar
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Dislike g6 racing and what Iím hearing from other trainers they donít like it either, dogs sitting at home not getting starts when they are last start placegetters.



Jamie Quinlivian
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I've been watching the GSix, no less interference at all. And yes, why have 2 emergencies and 2 vacant boxes?


Ian Bradshaw
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13 Jun 2019 02:02


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Jamie Quinlivian wrote:

I've been watching the GSix, no less interference at all. And yes, why have 2 emergencies and 2 vacant boxes?

Why not just use boxes 1 to 6, and make the emergencies numbers 7 & 8, instead of 9 & 10 ?

It is debatable, but there is the probably the same amount of interference in a six dog field, regardless of which two boxes are left empty.

Get rid of "vacant box", it is not a good look.



Nathan Bendeich
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13 Jun 2019 06:30


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They are called squeeze boxes for a reason
Vacate 4 and 5
They are the worst boxes , everyone knows this
Seperate the fields 1-3 and 6-8 and implement railers or wide runners
Itís not rocket science

When you trial 2 dogs , do you put them in 1,2 ....?
No
You gap em , why ? Itís safer

Saying 8 dogs is no different to 6 is like saying 10 is no different to 8
Please wake up !

Itís about offering the safety to these athletes , it wonít work all the time but you canít say it doesnít work straight out .
How do you know if the 2 dogs that arenít in would have made a shabby 6 dog race even worse ?? You canít coz you donít know
Itís common sense the less runners belting into the first corner statistically has to be better off then having more !

Sorry to inconvenience you having to wait an extra 2 days to race your racer that is sitting at home in one piece

Unbelievable

Extra money and effort for safety resulting in more complaints , go figure .....?


Robyn Mackellar
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Nathan, I race my dogs once a week!... I donít mind the concept of actually 6 dogs racing. However you do see more crashing to the rail with the extra room to move. Perhaps on the dogs missing out on racing put on extra races?? Ummm extra money??? More room means more momentum the harder the hit... I like the concept of boxes 1-6 tho.



Nathan Bendeich
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Robyn Mackellar wrote:

Nathan, I race my dogs once a week!... I donít mind the concept of actually 6 dogs racing. However you do see more crashing to the rail with the extra room to move. Perhaps on the dogs missing out on racing put on extra races?? Ummm extra money??? More room means more momentum the harder the hit... I like the concept of boxes 1-6 tho.

I think youíd find putting Dogs in their appropriate boxes ie railing or wide runners would fix most problems and should be priority instead of deciding which boxes are left vacant, donít you think ?

Wouldnít it be nice knowing every week you turn up with a railer you are going to be in
1,2 or 3 and vice versa outside boxes
No more researching what dogs do from which boxes

No that would be to smart

Watch Dapto rc 1 ....... carnage dogs everywhere , rail crashes in outside boxes?
Then watch Sandown rc 4 , corner start also

It can help having 6 dog fields


Robyn Mackellar
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13 Jun 2019 10:21


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Absolutely agree in seeding boxes



Nathan Bendeich
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Iíve just watched a handful of races that have been on since this conversation started
Dapto races 1and 2
Both races half the field taken out both had 8 runners

Albion Park race 3 ,trouble home turn 8 runners

Sandown race 4 ,6 runners good

Angle park rc 2 ,6 runners 1 check

Warrnambool rc 8 ,6 runners 1 check from the 8 wanting the rail

6 races all up , 3 full fields with 30-50% of fields taken out
Against 3 races with 6 runners for 2 single checks and 90% of all fields getting their chances

To say there is no difference from 8 to 6 ?????? We are watching 2 very different things
Even with the obvious observation that when to forces collide from more space
It is going to be greater
Iíd rather that risk any day going from the aboves short but clear cut info

Note rc 3 angle park 6 runners ....a fall as I was about to post this
Was not due to a space collision hit , the 8 wanted the rail just in front of the 7
Very unlucky 7 , I hope your boy is ok , sorry to all connections ,poor bugger
The 8 goes on to win with clear running

Conclusion
There is more chance of the whole field getting their chance in 6 dog fields
The 2 single checks came from outside boxes wanting the inside
Seed them and have 6 dog fields and we would finally be putting our priorities in the correct place for our greys and all concerned

Cheers good luck

Ps warrnambool rc 9 8 runners .... a disgrace , fair dinkum
Dapto rc 4 6 runners no checks ,perfect ! And with random boxes vacant

Chalk and cheese



Jason Caley
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13 Jun 2019 13:56


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Jamie Quinlivian wrote:

I've been watching the GSix, no less interference at all. And yes, why have 2 emergencies and 2 vacant boxes?

Back when I was doing the "Racing Manager" function at Strathalbyn I proposed 6 dog fields of heats into an 8 dog final and it got cruched/torn down by the authority. Fast forward to now and g6 is a big hoopla.

Back when I proposed the notion of reduced field heats into full field finals it was to entice people to come into the heats because they had a 50-50 chance of walking away with prizemoney even if they didnt make the final.

But what do I know, I am only a dimwhit participant apparently and obviously out of touch with the people that voted me into the role unlike the appointed positions within well you know where. Glad to to have exited the state and to move on with my life. Now I get to focus on the dogs without the distraction of politics and egos.

(I'll footnote what I wrote above though to simply state that as a commercial enterprise, SA racing 6 dog fields maximizes race count while reducing dog numbers required. From their point of view, 12 race cards despite less dogs means more mug punters and retains sky channel coverage rights. It's savy commercially even if disadvantaging participants and ultimately self defeating as they lose sight of their supply chain - that would be trainers and dogs)



Gillian Wilcox
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13 Jun 2019 23:53


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Agree a must 6 doggers vacant boxes 3/6 and the main thing is seeding of railers and wide runners.



Jamie Quinlivian
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Jamie Quinlivian wrote:

I've been watching the GSix, no less interference at all. And yes, why have 2 emergencies and 2 vacant boxes?

Gawler today. One race had 5 dogs in it and one fell. Another race had 6 dogs in it and one fell.
You can have G-two racing if you like but as long as you have stupid suicide bend starts, there will be interference.

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