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Michael Barry Australia (Verified User) Posts 7405 Dogs 26 / Races 9 07 Jul 2019 02:51
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KADE JOSKE wrote:
Collision sire line seems to work well with Magombo bitches Maybe Dyna Villa CLICK HERE What have you got against Aston Dee Bee? Ive got a litter of pups at home that are fantastic.
i have no issues with Aston Dee Bee or his trainers , im sure he will be a great sire and good luck with your pups Kade
Matt Griffiths Australia (Verified User) Posts 1955 Dogs 56 / Races 2 07 Jul 2019 03:57
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Michael Barry wrote:
thanks Matt, i would never ever use an unproven sire , been burned before happy to pay the extra if they produce , (aston dee bee never ever , a story for a different day )
We all have sires that we don't like for one reason or another, there's plenty of sires I wouldn't touch too.
Personally I think Aston dee bee throws a lot nicer style of pup than a lot of the so called top sires
Michael Barry Australia (Verified User) Posts 7405 Dogs 26 / Races 9 07 Jul 2019 05:08
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Matt James wrote:
Michael Barry wrote:
thanks Matt, i would never ever use an unproven sire , been burned before happy to pay the extra if they produce , (aston dee bee never ever , a story for a different day )
We all have sires that we don't like for one reason or another, there's plenty of sires I wouldn't touch too.
Personally I think Aston dee bee throws a lot nicer style of pup than a lot of the so called top sires
you may well be right Matt , not everyone gets good results from so called top sires that is for sure ,
but when i have used a top class proven sire , and the pups are no good i then look at the bitch very carefully ,
we dont have the best bitches in the country to breed with , but what we do have is excess to the best proven stud dogs in the country , thats why we use them , then hope for the best , its an expensive caper with no guarantees of success ,
i have learnt expensive lessons using unproven sires and unproven bitches
Matt Griffiths Australia (Verified User) Posts 1955 Dogs 56 / Races 2 07 Jul 2019 07:11
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Didn't mean it like that, meant you don't like unproven sires especially Aston dee bee. That's your choice to wait and see before using a sire and it's probably the right attitude to have.
What I was saying is so far on all things I've heard and seen Aston dee bee has really nice pups and I'll be surprised if he doesn't succeed. He has a lot nicer style of pups compared to a fair few proven top sires, but the top sires have the runs on the board.
That said you only read about the good progeny, anything negative/truthful gets deleted or not printed at all
Michael Barry Australia (Verified User) Posts 7405 Dogs 26 / Races 9 07 Jul 2019 07:36
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Matt James wrote:
Didn't mean it like that, meant you don't like unproven sires especially Aston dee bee. That's your choice to wait and see before using a sire and it's probably the right attitude to have.
What I was saying is so far on all things I've heard and seen Aston dee bee has really nice pups and I'll be surprised if he doesn't succeed. He has a lot nicer style of pups compared to a fair few proven top sires, but the top sires have the runs on the board.
That said you only read about the good progeny, anything negative/truthful gets deleted or not printed at all
Matt ill explain this again ,, i wont be using Aston Dee Bee not now not ever regardless of how good he becomes ,,
if i had all the bitches in the country and Aston Dee Bee was the only sire , i can assure you that no breeding would ever be done ,
ill leave it at that, i wont be commenting on it again
Matt Griffiths Australia (Verified User) Posts 1955 Dogs 56 / Races 2 07 Jul 2019 08:38
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I'm agreeing with you. You're entitled to like or dislike any sire. On what I've seen I can't knock adb, but most pups are nice until they hit the track. If you don't like him for one reason or another that's 100% up to you.
Personally I don't like Fernando bale, dyna double one, fabregas, spring gun, etc. But that doesn't mean there isn't a lot of very happy people that couldn't disagree with me more
Michael Barry Australia (Verified User) Posts 7405 Dogs 26 / Races 9 07 Jul 2019 08:45
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Matt James wrote:
I'm agreeing with you. You're entitled to like or dislike any sire. On what I've seen I can't knock adb, but most pups are nice until they hit the track. If you don't like him for one reason or another that's 100% up to you.
Personally I don't like Fernando bale, dyna double one, fabregas, spring gun, etc. But that doesn't mean there isn't a lot of very happy people that couldn't disagree with me more
Matt i have used 3 of the 4 you dont like lol
Matt Griffiths Australia (Verified User) Posts 1955 Dogs 56 / Races 2 07 Jul 2019 08:46
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Matt James wrote:
Much prefer
CLICK HERE CLICK HERE CLICK HERE CLICK HERE My reasons being kinloch brae mating is too bare, his sons provide a little bit of colour. And in my opinion dyna double one provides more problems than solutions, Aston and mepunga are throwing a lot nicer style of pup than ddo (my opinion only)
Always gonna be the way lol. Anyway, back on topic. I originally suggested these sires not knowing you didn't like anything unproven. Hopefully mepunga blazer, blazin bomber and moreira will be a bit proven by the time you're ready. Otherwise back to your original choices, I know of a pretty handy kinloch brae litter out of a mogambo broodie that'll be starting in the next couple of months
Michael Barry Australia (Verified User) Posts 7405 Dogs 26 / Races 9 07 Jul 2019 09:11
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Matt James wrote:
Matt James wrote:
Much prefer
CLICK HERE CLICK HERE CLICK HERE CLICK HERE My reasons being kinloch brae mating is too bare, his sons provide a little bit of colour. And in my opinion dyna double one provides more problems than solutions, Aston and mepunga are throwing a lot nicer style of pup than ddo (my opinion only)
Always gonna be the way lol. Anyway, back on topic. I originally suggested these sires not knowing you didn't like anything unproven. Hopefully mepunga blazer, blazin bomber and moreira will be a bit proven by the time you're ready. Otherwise back to your original choices, I know of a pretty handy kinloch brae litter out of a mogambo broodie that'll be starting in the next couple of months
Evie's entity Zara's sister has a litter to kinloch just starting off so im watching them few months to decide ,,
lola came in season today so this mating is the priority now , and she has produced city winners from her first runners