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Simon Moore Australia (Verified User) Posts 2366 Dogs 32 / Races 393 19 Jun 2019 00:52
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@Potts Park it's only $210 for a maiden and only $270 for a 5th grade win.
is that honestly the best they can offer?
i know it's a non-tab meeting but it just seems ridiculous that in 2019 that's what participants are racing for.
no wonder they only got 6 races this upcoming meeting.
Mark Donohue Australia (Verified User) Posts 3236 Dogs 6 / Races 0 19 Jun 2019 02:33
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P/M is going up everywhere else e.g. Tab B, etc. do they want them around? It should be $500 minimum.
Simon Moore Australia (Verified User) Posts 2366 Dogs 32 / Races 393 19 Jun 2019 06:25
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this track is in the centre of sydney and has its own club as well.
they should just make it a tab track.
Sandro Bechini Australia (Verified User) Posts 19488 Dogs 15268 / Races 1856 19 Jun 2019 10:37
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Mark Donohue wrote:
P/M is going up everywhere else e.g. Tab B, etc. do they want them around? It should be $500 minimum.
$1,000 minimum if they really wanted to get real
Bruce Teague Australia (Verified User) Posts 2092 Dogs 0 / Races 0 19 Jun 2019 22:44
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Given the state of the industry the first question to be asked is whether Potts Park should exist at all. What does it add to the package? Why are Tab tracks short of numbers - especially Bulli just down the road? Why is Wenty padded out with horrible 280m races?
Kenneth Markham Australia (Verified User) Posts 252 Dogs 0 / Races 0 19 Jun 2019 23:34
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Why shouldnt it exist there are big numbers of trainers in the Metro area that dont have to travel several hours to country tracks the nearest being Lithgow 2.5 hours away.It is also used for dogs out of form to increase their points to get back to tab racing.The grass surface also revitalises dogs who get stale from having sand constantly kicked in their faces.Last Saturday the FFA had some real good dogs in it that turned out extremely competitive and the strike rates were impressive.They should apply for tab coverage its in prime time a Saturday arvo.Its a good day out and people who are regulars are very respectful -I cant say that for other tracks
Tony Digiorgio Australia (Verified User) Posts 1008 Dogs 25 / Races 0 20 Jun 2019 00:03
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Agree with its existence Ken and also the occasional TAB meeting but good luck getting a slot in prime time on a Saturday afternoon. Although Saturday mornings could be an option.
Simon Moore Australia (Verified User) Posts 2366 Dogs 32 / Races 393 20 Jun 2019 00:06
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Bruce Teague wrote:
Given the state of the industry the first question to be asked is whether Potts Park should exist at all. What does it add to the package? Why are Tab tracks short of numbers - especially Bulli just down the road? Why is Wenty padded out with horrible 280m races?
don't you start with your rubbish again.
Simon Moore Australia (Verified User) Posts 2366 Dogs 32 / Races 393 20 Jun 2019 23:51
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would be the only dog meeting on the tab @12pm on a saturday.
wonder if a name change to bankstown greyhounds would help?
Sandro Bechini Australia (Verified User) Posts 19488 Dogs 15268 / Races 1856 21 Jun 2019 00:57
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simon moore wrote:
@Potts Park it's only $210 for a maiden and only $270 for a 5th grade win.
is that honestly the best they can offer?
i know it's a non-tab meeting but it just seems ridiculous that in 2019 that's what participants are racing for.
no wonder they only got 6 races this upcoming meeting.
Rod Hampton Australia Posts 1626 Dogs 2993 / Races 11812 21 Jun 2019 08:53
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Potts Park is a great little club, get a cheap meal, watch some real live greyhounds, (instead of just on tv) always a bit of crowd atmosphere, and you don't have to travel to the bush or WP Last tine I was there , there was actually a bookie !!
Calum Andersen Australia (Verified User) Posts 913 Dogs 5 / Races 1 22 Jun 2019 20:07
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simon moore wrote:
would be the only dog meeting on the tab @12pm on a saturday.
wonder if a name change to bankstown greyhounds would help?
If it went tab surely the only slot would be sunday morning to match up with multiple states of straight racing.
Bruce Teague Australia (Verified User) Posts 2092 Dogs 0 / Races 0 22 Jun 2019 23:03
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Bruce Teague wrote:
Given the state of the industry the first question to be asked is whether Potts Park should exist at all. What does it add to the package? Why are Tab tracks short of numbers - especially Bulli just down the road? Why is Wenty padded out with horrible 280m races?
Nobody has answered my questions except to say some trainers like Potts Park - which says $210 first prize is not such a big problem after all. On the other hand, if their dogs are not up to TAB standard there is no law which says they can't send/sell them to the country. Also handy is Appin or even a re-licensed Wyong just down the freeway.
I notice last night Bulli ran with empty boxes in every race - 3 of them with only 5 runners. Sometimes it has not even managed 10 races. Pays $900-$1600 a win. Goulbourn or Gosford are not much further and an easy drive.
Wenty ran with empty boxes in 5 races - $4800-$10000 a win and the bigger of those was for low grade (alleged) stayers.
Plainly, the existing dog pool cannot staff the races we do have so the prospect of adding more races/meetings is zero. And hanging over the head of the industry is the threat of culling some tracks - where Potts Park would have to be high on the list.
Strategically, you might ask why Potts Park got a guernsey in the first place. It just popped up from nowhere one day, thereby lowering the demand for spots at surrounding country tracks. Was that a management decision or a political one?
(All TAB figures subject to increase next month).
Kenneth Markham Australia (Verified User) Posts 252 Dogs 0 / Races 0 23 Jun 2019 06:29
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A simple fact that GRNSW invested money to re model the back straight and move the 300 boxes and re lay the turf tends to suggest they will stay alive.
Bruce Teague Australia (Verified User) Posts 2092 Dogs 0 / Races 0 24 Jun 2019 05:19
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kenneth markham wrote:
A simple fact that GRNSW invested money to re model the back straight and move the 300 boxes and re lay the turf tends to suggest they will stay alive.
Ken, not really. There is seldom any logic in what GRNSW spends money or why and how. Examples are numerous - all of them, in fact.
Kenneth Markham Australia (Verified User) Posts 252 Dogs 0 / Races 0 28 Jun 2019 11:17
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Bruce u appear to be dirty on Potts Park for god knows whatever reason.Last time I boxed a dog it was about enjoyment and why should people have to sell or send their slower dogs to the country.Bulli is the worst graded track always terrible examples each week.People are wanting a fair go and thats not the case its often too hard to compete with the bigger kennels.The biggest issue at Potts was the previous administration who invested money stupidly and recklessly and also siphoned out money illegally.I reckon there are clubs with more chance of closing.Wenty is a white elephant and from a punting perspective it is a disaster.
Bruce Teague Australia (Verified User) Posts 2092 Dogs 0 / Races 0 28 Jun 2019 21:36
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Ken,
I note your opinions. But I just asked questions as well as pointing out that GRNSW is very bad at investing cash in track works.
So why did Potts Park get a tick in the first place? That will be relevant if or when rationalisation takes place. Nothing personal - it's just simple arithmetic - we have run out of dogs.
Dan McDonald Australia (Verified User) Posts 402 Dogs 9 / Races 0 28 Jun 2019 21:54
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Seemed to be plenty of dogs when they offered Tab C prize money. Show us the money!
Kenneth Markham Australia (Verified User) Posts 252 Dogs 0 / Races 0 29 Jun 2019 22:31
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Correct Dan the money always talks up the prize money and dogs will be nominated.
Sam Watson Australia (Verified User) Posts 315 Dogs 0 / Races 0 01 Jul 2019 05:41
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GRNSW can't make money on it if there isn't people to bet on it. NON TAB prize money is basically a big black hole in their budget. All outlay, with no income returned via wagering.
Can't fill full fields in a country track or even metro tracks sometimes, so don't see it being a TAB track any time soon. Therefore its just money going down the drain for their business.
If they upped it to $1000 like some posters above have said, then u'll get all the big trainers taking dogs there for easy kills taking your prize money then people will complain about that. Has to be a balance between providing those dogs options to race, but also keeping prize money in balance.
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