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Conflicting attitude in greyhound board towards internal report Updated / Friday, 19 Jul 2019 07:36
The report warned the industry's future was threatened by over-breeding and the mass culling of greyhounds The report warned the industry's future was threatened by over-breeding and the mass culling of greyhounds By Conor Ryan RT Investigates
Significant conflicts have emerged in the Irish Greyhound Board's attitude towards a critical internal report that warned the industry's future was threatened by over-breeding and the mass culling of greyhounds.
In the past week, the Irish Greyhound Board has publicly dismissed aspects of a business analysis it commissioned from consultants Preferred Results Ltd, the contents of which were revealed by RT Investigates: Greyhounds Running for their Lives.
However, in June 2018, some nine months after the report was presented to the IGB, its chief executive Ger Dollard wrote a letter recommending Preferred Results Ltd and praising the "rigorous, thorough and professional way" the company undertook its work.
In the letter, seen by RT Investigates, Mr Dollard said everyone he spoke to, who had been involved with the report process, was "impressed by the depth of the insight which PRL had acquired in such a short period of time".
"I wish to confirm that between May and September 2017, Preferred Results Ltd. (PRL) carried out a review of the IGB Business Model, with a particular focus on the Racing Product, Management, Value Chain Analysis, and the Organisation Structure. The approach was rigorous, thorough and professional and really challenged how the board and senior management viewed the business.
"Not only did PRL highlight areas where it felt significant improvements could be made, it also set out a blue-print for change which it had worked through in detail with senior management, and which had their backing on the majority of the core recommendations," Mr Dollard wrote.
The IGB paid Preferred Results Ltd 115,000 to deliver the report, which examined the industry's breeding and racing records and concluded that 5,987 greyhounds were being killed each year for being too slow.
It also looked at the structure of the organisation and proposed the IGB taking over responsibility for breeding from the Irish Coursing Club.
Following the RT broadcast, IGB Chairman Frank Nyhan appeared before the Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture.
Mr Nyhan, who took up his position as chairman six months ago, said that the consultancy company had gone outside its intended brief and the IGB believed its analysis of the racing dog pool was incorrect.
"We didn't agree with or understand the conclusions reached by Preferred Results Ltd in respect of that. Quite frankly, we think they are wrong," he said.
This point was echoed by Mr Dollard in an article written for the Sunday Independent.
"The [Preferred Results Ltd] analysis studied greyhounds from the 2009 'racing pool' and was based on estimates, guesstimates and assumptions and lacked any empirical evidence base.
"The IGB did not accept the analysis as an accurate reflection of the greyhound industry," he said.
The Preferred Results Ltd report had used breeding figures from 2013 to 2015 and said it examined the final outcome of racers using records going back to 2009 to provide a sufficiently long period to be sure all greyhounds in the sample had retired.
Speaking after the RT broadcast, Junior Minister for Agriculture with responsibility for greyhounds, Andrew Doyle said: "Having read it I think it would have been useful to have seen it earlier."
However, in June, the Department of Agriculture's secretary general, Brendan Gleeson, told the Public Accounts Committee that it had not been given a copy of the report until May 2019 as the IGB "does not accept the report".
Minutes of the Irish Greyhound Board from December 2017 recorded its directors described the report as "thought provoking", but containing "some impractical short and medium-term measures".
In response to a parliamentary question in April this year, Mr Dollard told Labour TD Alan Kelly the "report has not been adopted by the board and accordingly is not adopted as company policy for implementation".
However, in his letter of recommendation, Mr Dollard said those involved were also impressed by the consultant's 'common sense' recommendations, which challenged some of the most "cherished and long-held beliefs of the organisation".
"While not all of the recommendations were accepted, some of the more critically important ones were taken on board and they are having a significant positive impact on an organisation which is naturally cautious when it comes to change," he said.
Mr Dollard concluded his letter by saying: "I am happy to recommend PRL to companies which need a thorough analysis of its business and solid recommendations with respect to how it might change."
RT asked Mr Dollard and the IGB for a comment on the letter. A spokesperson said the IGB was not in a position to comment at this time.
No comment???? usually they have a response for everything, the more they say the more they are being found out.
Conflicting attitude in greyhound board towards internal report Updated / Friday, 19 Jul 2019 07:36
The report warned the industry's future was threatened by over-breeding and the mass culling of greyhounds The report warned the industry's future was threatened by over-breeding and the mass culling of greyhounds By Conor Ryan RT Investigates
Significant conflicts have emerged in the Irish Greyhound Board's attitude towards a critical internal report that warned the industry's future was threatened by over-breeding and the mass culling of greyhounds.
In the past week, the Irish Greyhound Board has publicly dismissed aspects of a business analysis it commissioned from consultants Preferred Results Ltd, the contents of which were revealed by RT Investigates: Greyhounds Running for their Lives.
However, in June 2018, some nine months after the report was presented to the IGB, its chief executive Ger Dollard wrote a letter recommending Preferred Results Ltd and praising the "rigorous, thorough and professional way" the company undertook its work.
In the letter, seen by RT Investigates, Mr Dollard said everyone he spoke to, who had been involved with the report process, was "impressed by the depth of the insight which PRL had acquired in such a short period of time".
"I wish to confirm that between May and September 2017, Preferred Results Ltd. (PRL) carried out a review of the IGB Business Model, with a particular focus on the Racing Product, Management, Value Chain Analysis, and the Organisation Structure. The approach was rigorous, thorough and professional and really challenged how the board and senior management viewed the business.
"Not only did PRL highlight areas where it felt significant improvements could be made, it also set out a blue-print for change which it had worked through in detail with senior management, and which had their backing on the majority of the core recommendations," Mr Dollard wrote.
The IGB paid Preferred Results Ltd 115,000 to deliver the report, which examined the industry's breeding and racing records and concluded that 5,987 greyhounds were being killed each year for being too slow.
It also looked at the structure of the organisation and proposed the IGB taking over responsibility for breeding from the Irish Coursing Club.
Following the RT broadcast, IGB Chairman Frank Nyhan appeared before the Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture.
Mr Nyhan, who took up his position as chairman six months ago, said that the consultancy company had gone outside its intended brief and the IGB believed its analysis of the racing dog pool was incorrect.
"We didn't agree with or understand the conclusions reached by Preferred Results Ltd in respect of that. Quite frankly, we think they are wrong," he said.
This point was echoed by Mr Dollard in an article written for the Sunday Independent.
"The [Preferred Results Ltd] analysis studied greyhounds from the 2009 'racing pool' and was based on estimates, guesstimates and assumptions and lacked any empirical evidence base.
"The IGB did not accept the analysis as an accurate reflection of the greyhound industry," he said.
The Preferred Results Ltd report had used breeding figures from 2013 to 2015 and said it examined the final outcome of racers using records going back to 2009 to provide a sufficiently long period to be sure all greyhounds in the sample had retired.
Speaking after the RT broadcast, Junior Minister for Agriculture with responsibility for greyhounds, Andrew Doyle said: "Having read it I think it would have been useful to have seen it earlier."
However, in June, the Department of Agriculture's secretary general, Brendan Gleeson, told the Public Accounts Committee that it had not been given a copy of the report until May 2019 as the IGB "does not accept the report".
Minutes of the Irish Greyhound Board from December 2017 recorded its directors described the report as "thought provoking", but containing "some impractical short and medium-term measures".
In response to a parliamentary question in April this year, Mr Dollard told Labour TD Alan Kelly the "report has not been adopted by the board and accordingly is not adopted as company policy for implementation".
However, in his letter of recommendation, Mr Dollard said those involved were also impressed by the consultant's 'common sense' recommendations, which challenged some of the most "cherished and long-held beliefs of the organisation".
"While not all of the recommendations were accepted, some of the more critically important ones were taken on board and they are having a significant positive impact on an organisation which is naturally cautious when it comes to change," he said.
Mr Dollard concluded his letter by saying: "I am happy to recommend PRL to companies which need a thorough analysis of its business and solid recommendations with respect to how it might change."
RT asked Mr Dollard and the IGB for a comment on the letter. A spokesperson said the IGB was not in a position to comment at this time.
No comment???? usually they have a response for everything, the more they say the more they are being found out.
Are you working for him now Dave?
Will you be helping your mates at the Rally in Clonmel that Conor Ryan advertised on RTE this morning????
David Ryan Ireland (Verified User) Posts 50 Dogs 0 / Races 0 19 Jul 2019 11:54
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And the more you say Dave the more you are been found out!!!
Dave iv a couple of question for you what's your invested interest in all this...why do I feel your getting off at any given opertunity to knock the industry... whats your relationship with Tony Walsh the guy that appeared on the rte program basically saying everyone of us are drug cheats could it be we have the biggest anti in the sport amongst us... what goba did you belong to what goba are you now involved in is Tony Walsh involved in your goba who else is involved in your goba...
You are on the internet forums every day of the week lambasting and bashing the igb at every opportunity for not doing things right and not following the rules of this and that and the other. What massive hypocrisy because you support a self appointed IGOBF who hold secret meetings and ye are not even recognized by the Seanad. And to say that Tipp GOBA is affiliated to your group is a pure outrageous lie. If you are going to be pointing the finger at people for not following the rules in the IGB then surely ye should be leading by example???
Dave in my opinion and seen what I've seen you want nothing more than for this sport to fall your bitterness towards the igb has overcome your love for the sport and you don't care about the outcome just as long as you can see the sport go down the swanny...
Guys we are all greyhound owners why cant you all stick together instead of back biting at one another for god sake grow up and be more concerned about the future of our sport not how fast your fingers can work your keyboard.
Paul Mc Donnell Ireland (Verified User) Posts 420 Dogs 92 / Races 0 19 Jul 2019 14:41
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Dave,pity Conor Ryan didnt notice this guy on his doorstep
RTE producer who was caught by a paedophile-hunting vigilante group in England after grooming a fictitious girl he believed was just 13 years old has been jailed for 18 months.
Kieran Creaven, 55, who was addicted to pornography involving children as young as eight, planned on two occasions to fly over from his home in Dublin to meet the girl he had groomed through Facebook messages, Leeds Crown Court heard.
The account was set up in a fake name of Keeley Nutton by a Facebook group called Predator Exposure, who cornered him outside the Queens Hotel in Leeds on 18 November 2017 where he was expecting to meet the girl.
Creaven, who the court heard was living in a cyber world of pornography, had two boxes of condoms, a list of female names and two phones on his person when he was arrested.
The online conversation was described as prolonged by the prosecution and began in July 2017 and ended in November 2017.
The girl repeatedly told the defendant she was 13 during hundreds of messages exchanged over the four-month period.
He sent her a picture of his erect penis over Facebook Messenger and the girl told him she had never seen one before.
The defendant also told the girl he wanted to kiss and cuddle her
And the more you say Dave the more you are been found out!!!
Thats it you Jump on the wagon with the rest of the gang, you dont have a clue what is going on like the rest of them your only surmising, as i said before i have nothing to hide and i wont sit back and listen to pure bullshite and lies.
Brian, you must be one of many owners who have sat on their arses and accepted what the board have done over the years to greyhound racing, I chose to get of my arse and try do something for this industry you claim to love. Here are some answers to your questions as I have nothing to hide or be ashamed off like some people on here and facebook. 1, My whole interest in this sport that I take part in is to see it run straight and the drug cheats removed so we can all enjoy a fair run its not too much to ask for and only for Brian & Yvonne talking through their holes with ridicules statements there would be no interest in this topic.
2. Tony Walsh has been a long-time friend of mine and he has forgotten more than you and I will ever know about greyhounds, also I listened to that RTE showing and I never once heard Tony claiming that we are all drug cheats you should get your facts right before you accuse. 3. As far as Antis go Neither Tony or myself have any involvement with any such people or groups and dont intend to & we both condone anyone who has any dealings with Greyhounds to CHINA. 4. I used to be secretary of Mullingar GOBA but I have since stepped away so I have no further involvement, Tony Walsh is the current Secretary and the others involved are decent greyhound people. 5. The IGOBF never held secret meetings thats only coming from the people who cant get things their own way and who are claiming to be something they are not or ever will be but they forgot to tell the truth to the greyhound people when they put claim to a throne they will never lift so they decide to slate everyone else who is trying their best, if you all notice who it is who is doing all the talking and condemning of others will he be quick enough to apologise when the truth becomes public ? you will soon learn that he has been talking through his rear end. Any time there was a meeting emails were sent out to all involved no one can deny that, dammed if you do and dammed if you dont, its very easy to slate someone when you sit at home and do nothing. The Federation took another dose of abuse again from people who dont know their arse from their elbow or anything regarding Company Law, and if they did they would have realized that registering the Federation as a CLG means that whoever is on the National committee of this organisation this committee would be protected and could only be sued for 1 and have peace of mind, no other reason was behind this decision, so instead of complaining about secret companys you should learn Public Law and see how it works, it is now a well safeguarded company for everyone who ends up on the National committee now and in the Future.
6. I lambast the IGB simply because they have destroyed this industry YOUR industry with untruths and continue to drag the greyhound industry through the gutter, Gangsters comes to mind. Example, take the National Consultative Forum , this was set up the IGB way & not the way they were told to set it up by the chairman of the Agricultural committee at the time now Minister Doyle , this forum has its own agenda , it does not listen to anyones views or suggestions from the floor and Any other Business does not enter into the equation, there is no votes taken and only certain issues are allowed to be discussed, a total farce but again you have the IGB steel heads who agree with everything that takes place at this charade. Is this not a reason to complain???
7. Regarding Tipp GOBA I have never called you an outrageous liar so please do not call me one on a public Forum, (an apology would be nice Brian and again get your facts right before you accuse) and YES Tipperary Goba are affiliated to the IGOBF who are recognized by the Seanad who you claim are not, not the group who CLAIM to be the IGOBF and are recognized by no one, again Brian get your facts right.
My bitterness towards the IGB has left me wondering why I ever got myself involved in this shambolic mess in the first place, but when you see that things are not being run properly and against all rules and regulations it makes you realize that some things are worth fighting for in my Honest opinion but then again some on here will disagree with my thoughts/opinions. If what I post hurts certain individuals so be it this is an open public Forum and it is there so we can all voice our concerns and not ridicule others, I post information that should be of great interest to all you greyhound owners but rather than accept that the IGB have kept information from you & destroyed your industry and continue to remove monies from our prize money you choose to blame me & others for the current mess its in when all we have ever done is to keep you informed of what is going on , if you prefer to be lied to and cheated out of your rightful values again thats your choice. All I can say is fair play to all you people who have faith and believe in this board that is your choice, they have continuously told untruths on numerous occasions, their arrogance, shameful & embarrassing episodes in front of the PAC & AGFM can only be described as insulting to every greyhound owner in the country, and if the IGB are left to their own devices they will remove more than Just prize money and leave you all fighting for the crumbs, thats the IGB policy divide and conquer.
David Ryan Ireland (Verified User) Posts 50 Dogs 0 / Races 0 19 Jul 2019 18:15
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I don't need to dave actions speak louder than words and your actions tell me everything I need to know!
just to make this perfectly clear. There is no members of the Tipperary GOBA affiliated to any Private GLC. The Tipperary GOBA has well over fifty signed up members and is a strong GOBA supporting the greyhound industry and affiliated to the IGOBF alongside Waterford, Galway, Wexford, North of Ireland, Limerick & Clare and Kerry GOBA's. regards Padjoe Dorney PRO Tipperary GOBA
David Ryan Ireland (Verified User) Posts 50 Dogs 0 / Races 0 19 Jul 2019 21:04
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Say what you like Dave the program was put together by a crowd of antis and Tony Walsh your friend was in the middle of it anyone from within our sport to take part in such a program should be absolutely ashamed of themselves he went on live television and said he got out of the sport because he couldn't compete with the drug cheats theirs 6 runners in every race and he is competing against 5 of them you tell me how that sounds!!! On the whole GOBA thing which I'm not fully up to speed on but I did see that Tony Walsh claims his the chairman of the IGOBF but he isn't is he cause Pat o Neil is why would he make such a claim.
just to make this perfectly clear. There is no members of the Tipperary GOBA affiliated to any Private GLC. The Tipperary GOBA has well over fifty signed up members and is a strong GOBA supporting the greyhound industry and affiliated to the IGOBF alongside Waterford, Galway, Wexford, North of Ireland, Limerick & Clare and Kerry GOBA's. regards Padjoe Dorney PRO Tipperary GOBA
Hello Padjoe, time we ended this confusing situation this is becoming more confused by the day for everyone, how can there be 2 Tipperary GOBAs and 2 IGOBFs, to my knowledge there can only be one recognized organisation who is recognized by the Seanad Returning officer who in turn enters the official name into the Register, would this be correct? Regarding the Tipp Double GOBA situation why is it that there is no other Double GOBA problems only with your GOBA?
Dave, Can you name the members of this Tipperary GOBA please. This industry is in need of support from every stakeholder in Ireland. Petty squabbling does not help. Dave name the committee members of your Tipperary GOBA.
In response to the programme I suggest that Greyhound racing should be added to this list ASAP.
30 cultural practices given official state recognition to 'protect and preserve' for future generations A range of activities from Irish crochet lace to the Burren Winterage festival have been given official status. Thursday 18 July 2019 14:35 16,360 42 THIRTY UNIQUE PRACTICES of Irish living cultural heritage have been given official recognition by the state.
A range of activities from Irish crochet lace to the Burren Winterage festival which celebrates the unique farming history of the region have been given a status to protect and preserve the traditions for generations.
Other traditions listed include Boyne currach making and Snap net fishing for the cultural influence they have had on their respective areas.
Developing a National Inventory of Irelands Intangible Cultural Heritage is part of the Departments work under the 2003 UNESCO Convention for the Safeguarding of Cultural Heritage.
Uileann piping and hurling have been inscribed in the UNESCO list of intangible cultural heritage, with an application for harping to be considered at the end of the year.
Culture Minister Josepha Madigan launched the full list of practices at an event in Waterways Ireland today.
It is wonderful to see such a variety of customs and traditions from all over the country being acknowledged here today. Each of these threads in the cultural tapestry of our lives makes us richer as individuals and as a country.
The full list of customs and traditions recognised on the list are:
Uileann Piping Hurling Cruitireacht na hireann / Irish Harping Winterage in the Burren Limerick Lace Turas Cholm Cille Snap Net Fishing Irish Crochet Lace Cobh Carillon Playing Native Irish Pedigree Dog Breeds Art and Practice of Falconry St Molings Pilgrims Route Mountmellick Embroidery Cant / Gamon, the traditional language spoken by Travellers Traveller Tinsmithing Sea Currach Making Mummers of Fingal Basketmaking Letterpress Printing in Ireland Floating Heritage Carrickmacross Lack Making Marcanna na Talaimh Dry Stone Construction Irish Traditional Music Traditional Farming and Sheepdog Training Irish Draught Horse Breeding Boyne Currach Making Loy Digging Holy Wells in County Clare Mid Kerry Biddy
Dave, Can you name the members of this Tipperary GOBA please. This industry is in need of support from every stakeholder in Ireland. Petty squabbling does not help. Dave name the committee members of your Tipperary GOBA.
many thanks Padjoe
Padjoe, can you clarify if any of the following people have ever been Treasurer of your Group.
The following Officers were elected to the Board of The Irish Greyhound Owners and Breeders Federation at their A.G.M. on Sunday 2nd June 2019 in The Killeshin Hotel, Portlaoise.
CHAIRPERSON: TONY WALSH. MULLINGAR G.O.B.A. VICE CHAIRPERSON: MAURICE O CONNOR CORK G.O.B.A.
A vote of NO CONFIDENCE in Tom Smith was called at a Tipp GOBA meeting and before it happened Tom Smith resigned. Up to 30 people at the meeting will verify this for you. Tom Smith has not attended a Tipperary GOBA meeting for over a year. He is therefore absolutely, definitely not representing Tipperary GOBA.
lol, well Dave avoiding answering the question, tom smith was Treasurer of the Tipperary GOBA a couple of years ago, until he resigned in front of an open meeting when he had no support to back your private group. So Dave, you have two members of your Tipperary GOBA, Tom and Ray. How many Tipperary people outside of yourself and the two lads, know about this GOBA, attended the AGM, where was it advertised. Dave its time to be truthful, just trying to make up the numbers. Best of luck to you.
LOL looks like ye have to many (loyal) supporters for me to deal with Padjoe fair play to you man, so i will wish you and your unrecognized splinter group all the best.
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