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I have a mate who lives across the road from Sale with some handy dogs and he tells me u need to under 18 anything around 17.5 is going good.I bought a dog from Victoria called Oamaru Wonder and he was purchased off 17.5 turned out a nice dog 20.7 Nowra on a bog track best of night ,22.7 Bulli ,trialled19.8 Goulburn , consistently broke 16 Appin.hope this gives u some idea.