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Sandro Bechini
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Queensland is fast becoming the most progressive State in the country

With its new 3 track complex signed off it is really showing some leadership in improving the staying ranks amongst its pool of dogs

https://www.racingqueensland.com.au/News-And-Guides/October-2019/Queensland-Stayers-Circuit-Program?fbclid=IwAR0Q0kOwzhaqmzXVMyP0si9vn4WiJRl6IySe4jXJtTaWRCJ5pCe4m0otK_U#.XaOvOjIZntF.facebook

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Rob Horne
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Impressed to see a positive QLD thread


Zane Prodan
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31 Oct 2019 10:07


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They just need more trainers now



Dan Hollywood
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Not signed off at all


Sandro Bechini
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Dan Hollywood wrote:

Not signed off at all

Fair enough, doesn't say signed off

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Why be so negative though?

It would be hard to reverse from this position


Bruce Teague
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Sandro Bechini wrote:

Queensland is fast becoming the most progressive State in the country

With its new 3 track complex signed off it is really showing some leadership in improving the staying ranks amongst its pool of dogs

https://www.racingqueensland.com.au/News-And-Guides/October-2019/Queensland-Stayers-Circuit-Program?fbclid=IwAR0Q0kOwzhaqmzXVMyP0si9vn4WiJRl6IySe4jXJtTaWRCJ5pCe4m0otK_U#.XaOvOjIZntF.facebook

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Sandro,

I have not done any counting but what impresses me most is that SEQ seems to have many fewer scratchings than in other states. Are Qld trainers more proficient?

I hope staying opportunities help the cause but surely breeding should come first?



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the trainers will go down, north side trainers have capalaba and albion park to gallop your dog at, when they close we have nothing you can not get a greyhound fit it needs to run



Dan Hollywood
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Sandro Bechini wrote:

Dan Hollywood wrote:

Not signed off at all

Fair enough, doesn't say signed off

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Why be so negative though?

It would be hard to reverse from this position

We all know the form of our governments today Sandro so I can't see this as being negative. What I did see is the Queens representative placed in a role re treasury where his only influence is whether things are done constitutionally, but if he wants to stand there with a 2mt x 1mt cardboard cheque good on him. When they start earthworks all good but until then and if a new government comes in they will do what they want, after all the majority voted for the fools.



Kevin Wright
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Quote Bruce
Are Qld trainers more proficient?

Yes Bruce
i hear its the mud crabs the Queenslanders grind up the shells ....they use it for endurance Bruce ...




John Watts
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Turns over $1billion up 18.7%
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well done LG and all involved looking fwd to the progress.



Nathan Trigg
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Whats peoples opinions on a break in centre backed by racing Queensland. Is it even possible?.

With breading numbers up and only two breakers currently operating in Queensland, you would think there will be some large gaps in this area moving forward over the next few years.





Graham Moscow
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Nathan Trigg wrote:

Whats peoples opinions on a break in centre backed by racing Queensland. Is it even possible?.

With breading numbers up and only two breakers currently operating in Queensland, you would think there will be some large gaps in this area moving forward over the next few years.

Would be great and much needed. Will be difficult to get $ funding.
You mentioned breeding is up which is good however the Rehoming bone in the throat is getting bigger by the day. GAP Qld and other rehomers cannot keep pace. If youre an owner breeder trainer then budget 20-30% of your race kennels for dogs waiting to be rehomed. If solution not found then problem will get bigger




Sandro Bechini
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Graham Moscow wrote:

Nathan Trigg wrote:

Whats peoples opinions on a break in centre backed by racing Queensland. Is it even possible?.

With breading numbers up and only two breakers currently operating in Queensland, you would think there will be some large gaps in this area moving forward over the next few years.

Would be great and much needed. Will be difficult to get $ funding.
You mentioned breeding is up which is good however the Rehoming bone in the throat is getting bigger by the day. GAP Qld and other rehomers cannot keep pace. If youre an owner breeder trainer then budget 20-30% of your race kennels for dogs waiting to be rehomed. If solution not found then problem will get bigger

Its an Australia wide issue mate

Its a real problem if breeding continues to expand the way it has




Nathan Bendeich
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Fix grading so Poeple keep their slow ones instead of sending them gap at 2 years old

5 grades at present and at any given flick they can all be combined thru 4th and 5th or 1-4 grades ?

Or even worse select the wrong distance for your dog to get cheap wins when its clearly outgrading the dogs that need serious care , the slow dogs should be put against other slow dogs ! Not drop back dogs or trainers using the wrong distance coz they can .

The grading at present teaches trainers to train against their own Fukin dogs ! And be rewarded for it ! You have 500 city dogs running 300 coz they can ? Top system .. NOT

Heres a simple idea across the board , black and white , no grey bullshit areas to beat the grader !

1-5 wins 5th grade , 6-10 wins 4th grade , 11-15 wins 3 grade , 16-20 wins 2 grade , 21 wins plus 1st grade

Once your up u stay up ! No bullshit drop back for the elite and no distance wins , a win is a win , if your dogs won 20 races its had a pretty good run , you stay 1st grade till masters come around ! Simple

Graders allocate the 5th graders stuck on 1-5 into the appropriate slower 5th grade race !

All tracks have these permanent graded races every week so locals stay at their track instead of being forced to drive 3 hours to find a race where drop back dogs arent or shorter distance changes being done for city dogs using it as a trial , which absolutely smashes a slow or young dogs as thats what the current rediculous grading allows and encourages ????

City winners equals 2 metro wins

A win is a win doesnt matter the distance so dogs move up and actually use the full five grades

Is it that hard

Ill keep saying it , stop looking after the top 10 percent and look after the other 90
There will not be a game in 3 years due to everyone having full kennels with slow capable chasers costing the trainer and owners with no where to go !!!!

Look after the grass roots , they are more important then the top 10 percent in the long run !



Nathan Trigg
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Graham Moscow wrote:

Nathan Trigg wrote:

Whats peoples opinions on a break in centre backed by racing Queensland. Is it even possible?.

With breading numbers up and only two breakers currently operating in Queensland, you would think there will be some large gaps in this area moving forward over the next few years.

Would be great and much needed. Will be difficult to get $ funding.
You mentioned breeding is up which is good however the Rehoming bone in the throat is getting bigger by the day. GAP Qld and other rehomers cannot keep pace. If youre an owner breeder trainer then budget 20-30% of your race kennels for dogs waiting to be rehomed. If solution not found then problem will get bigger

Fully agree Graham, personally I think the breaker shortage will only heighten the GAP issue over the next few years.
Pups not getting the opportunity to be broken in properly can only lead to more FTC or increase the numbers that dont make it to the track.

If not already, it should at least be a talking point for RQ




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Things are on the up in Queensland greyhounds. But I have to say an entire meeting of 288m races isn't a good look. I understand why trainers do it. No need to work them in-between races, less likely to get injured and you get enough to feed the dog for another week with appearance money alone. A lot of these dogs should be in GAP, but when there are lengthy waiting lists you may as well put them around.


Sandro Bechini
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Paul Dicks wrote:

Things are on the up in Queensland greyhounds. But I have to say an entire meeting of 288m races isn't a good look. I understand why trainers do it. No need to work them in-between races, less likely to get injured and you get enough to feed the dog for another week with appearance money alone. A lot of these dogs should be in GAP, but when there are lengthy waiting lists you may as well put them around.

The principle of letting them down for retirement is to reduce their prey drive and make them more relaxed for home life

Not having enough outlets for rehoming then forces people to keep racing them, not that there is anything wrong with it.

As long there are races for them and they are grade accordingly to be competitive, prizemoney is reasonable as it is now and people willing to train them then I don't see the harm in it

Just because its not my cup of tea or yours it doesn't mean its not right

I have a short course bitch now by Fernando Bale who probably could go further but thinks she is in a paddock with her litter mates when she gets to the front. She doesn't interfere with any other dog but doesn't always go on with it.

In the old days she was a throw away dog, in these days we need to be able to either rehome them or keep them racing somewhere.

Eventually though her shelf life as a racer will be over, so will have to be placed somewhere for rehoming

The question is where? I already have kennels at home. they are full right now and I have Saldana at home and soon Cut & Polish will be coming home and then I need to build a kennel for Valpolicella when shes finished

All the authorities have wrongly passed the buck onto the owners and the trainers without providing the structure and the infrastructure for rehoming, but in the meantime the government and powers that be are collecting a cut from the gambling side of it and not allocating enough funds for the rehoming or relocation of the dogs when they are finished

I predict what will happen eventually, not just in Qld but everywhere if this is not rectified soon is that there will be a LACK of progression

More dogs to rehome taking up spots at trainers and rearing kennels which leads to less opportunity in these areas, owners who aren't hands on then won't buy any more dogs because they don't want to be stuck with them, breeders will start to cut their breeding plans, then the industry over time eventually contracts

The antis win by default

So while prizemoney is terrific, and we are all rejoicing in that, we need better options for rehoming if the train is going to keep rolling on for the progression to continue

Anyway, rightly or wrongly thats my opinion


Scott Jackson
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Owners still need to take responsibility for their dogs.
Trainers complain that some refuse to take the dog away and simply pay for its upkeep, taking away kennel space for a race dog.
Issues such as this must be addressed but all owners should be aware of their responsibilities.

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