Wow!

"You know what happens when you start assuming Brucey Boy. Nothing wrong with the track or the crowd hanging over the fence if you can obtain some pictures of cootamundra back in the 70s that would dispel that myth of the crowd being to close. As previously stated its all about the land and the $$$$$$$$$$ simple as that."

Now that both parties (2 of 3 really) have gone public it seems your dollar point is spot on.

That aside, Dapto remains one of the two most disruptive tracks in the country (the other is Ipswich) - by any measure you care to use. That was the major reason for the most recent $0.5m re-building effort which produced nothing helpful at all. Despite all the cash and influence it remains a terrible example of the sport and related facilities.

It was well summarised by a well known official who once advised me that "they'll be alright if they nick out in front". Fair dinkum!

My proposal remains.

"If this is an unlawful action to support a property deal then that will come out and be exposed for what it is. The DAHS board will be held to account.

It seems Mestrov is no dummy.
What I do like about him is there is no hesitation with him to jump into the ring.
Considering his background and his "Joe Bugner nose", he doesn't mind a scap.
Great bloke to have in your corner on occasions like this one.

Seems the attitude of show societies is the same everywhere.
"Our way or the highway and bugger the consequences."
They might have to chew their cud this time.

Love to shout him a Queensland xxxx gold.

Like his style.

GRNSW is finally playing hardball with the Clubs and stop their in-bred shenanigans.

They get with the program or get outed.

Its about time we had some proper leadership in this sport.

From what has been released so far I see the problem as being the fact that Dapto's registration ended on 31st October and GRNSW didn't extend it until November 6, which would appear to be after the Dapto Board already decided.

That's why I am also confused by the statement from GRNSW saying

The message from GRNSW is, simply, that if the Dapto club does not have the ability to run greyhound racing at this venue - then we will."

The reason, from what has been released so far, that they didn't have the ability to run racing was GRNSW hadn't registered them.

You can't deny someone the ability to run a club then attack them for not having that ability.

I'm not apportioning blame yet because there is obviously a lot of information we don't know, I only know what's been in the releases. I still have lots of questions and every bit of info that's released just seems to bring more questions.

Sandro, I can't say I agree with them getting with the program without knowing what the program entails. Do you know what the others agreed to? I have no idea what was in the deal. Maybe Dapto do need to get with the program or maybe it was a bad deal for them. Without the details it's hard to say.

I just hope commonsense prevails and racing goes ahead tonight. Participants should not suffer because of whatever administration problems have occurred.

Do you really need to know what the actual prgram entails?
It was good enough for 13 other TAB Clubs..why wasn't it good enough for Dapto? What's so special about them?

They can't get decent fields there on a Thursday night at that goat track...what would it matter what night or day they raced?

You would think a club like Dapto would love to race on a Sunday afternoon or night, especially in summer when all the holiday crowds are there.

No, they go from their beach houses to the track LOL

why would dapto want to move from thursday anyway after 80 odd years?

Sandro, in case u haven't noticed EVERY track struggles with noms cause of the shortage of dogs.

lol, its a bit of a stretch isn't it.

The fact that the other clubs signed does tell in favour of GRNSW but without knowing the actual details and the negotiations it is not definitive that it means Dapto are at fault.

Did all clubs have the same deal?

Did the other clubs sign willingly? (The issue over Daptos registration puts some doubt on this).

Maybe you are right, maybe Dapto is out of line and needs to join the program. Or maybe Dapto was given a worse deal than others. Or maybe all clubs had a bad deal but Dapto was the only one in a position to risk losing registration. I have no idea if any of these statements are correct unless I have more information. Though I am realistic in thinking we will probably never know the whole truth.

It seems quite clear that both sides are blaming the other. Id rather see less blame and have them just sort it out so that participants arent left to suffer.

The fact they would hold the industry to ransom to consolidate their little patch and to massage their ego's is highly indicative of the selfish nature that is inherent in the Club and its Board

I hope that GRNSW decimate them

This is not quite right ...

"You can't deny someone the ability to run a club then attack them for not having that ability."

Obviously, the issue is related to how finances are arranged. The Society and GRNSW disagree - in which case GRNSW wins, always providing it has reasonable cause.

Overlaying that is the fact that the Society controls the land while GRNSW controls the racing. So GRNSW can certainly stop the racing but the Society can remove people from the premises for good reason - ie if they breach the conditions. That's a standoff.

It is similar in some ways to the Cessnock case where the club was de-licensed (although it was allowed to trial there). The club protested in the courts which was always going to be a total waste of money (it incurred $500k in costs which the industry had to pay in the end as the club was broke).

In both cases, a long period of negotiation took place without achieving agreement. GRA won then, as it had to. You can't change the umpire's decision. Someone has to be in charge.

In any case, the Society does not "run a club" - it simply provides a rental deal of some sort as it would to footballers, rodeos or weekend markets. While I don't know the full detail, typically the Society or whoever is acting in trust for the community under the broad supervision of the state government. However, it has previously been implied that the Society actually owns the land so all that is doubtful. Could be messy.

They don't want to move, they want to keep Thursdays

GRNSW have always wanted to align the city meetings to capitalize on the increased turnover on one of the main racing nights

It's a business decision, but one that doesn't suit Dapto apparently

It's no point having a history if you can't guarantee a future

And yes I have noticed there are less dogs....

We dont see others moving either. Why Dapto ? To be in line with Albion Park and Sandown just doesnt wash with me. If GRNSW created something special on Wednesday would Vic n Qld follow suit? I dont think so.

At the moment on Thursday we have the main meetings for the week in each State at Albion Park, Sandown, Angle Park and Hobart

NSW is the one on their own, so they would be joining the other 4

Majority rules and the pools are larger