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Trent Wrigley Australia (Verified User) Posts 1548 Dogs 40 / Races 3 26 Dec 2019 09:15
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First it was Miss Elly Mint that reached 16 consecutive wins then Fernando Bale joined the club now Turbo Thomas is there congrats to owner and trainer can he break the record next start.
John Charles Caulfield Australia (Verified User) Posts 396 Dogs 2 / Races 0 26 Dec 2019 22:22
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I thought there was a sa bitch trained by howard gray that won 21 straight including a group 1 in that 21 cant recall her name,
David Deguara United Kingdom (Team Member) Posts 958 Dogs 81 / Races 93 27 Dec 2019 01:32
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John,
You are thinking of the great Kate's A Scandal, who won 15 in a row, and who, at the time held the TAB consecutive record along with True Vintage and Miata
Miss Elly Mint set a new figure of 16 by winning at Wentworth Park on 07/02/2009, and Fernando Bale equalled her record of 16 at The Meadows on 11/07/2015.
The all time Australian consecutive win record (including Non-TAB racing) is held by Tropical One, who won 24 wins in a row, set on 22/05/2004
Mark Wilcox Australia (Verified User) Posts 264 Dogs 1 / Races 0 27 Dec 2019 05:45
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JOHN I DO RECALL A DOG WINNING 21 STRAIGHT IT WAS UP THE TOP OF QUEENSLAND SOME WHERE NOT SURE BUT.
Rob Frendo Australia (Verified User) Posts 322 Dogs 1 / Races 0 27 Dec 2019 10:50
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Worth keeping an eye on Caviar Quality , she has won about 10 in a row now a is actually getting better.
David Brasch Australia (Team Member) Posts 844 Dogs 2139 / Races 9672 27 Dec 2019 22:11
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Thought you might find this interesting it was written in 2013
THE 202 kilometre cycle ride from Mount Isa to the Northern Territory border can take Tony Sweeney anywhere between six and a half hours to even nine hours. It all depends on whether there is a strong wind slowing the riders down. Tony makes the ride each year, a charity ride to raise much needed funds back in his home town. He trains 160km a week and loves every minute of it. Its a far cry from the days when Tonys exercise was a leisurely stroll about the streets of Mount Isa with a team of greyhounds. And Tony misses every day of it. Tony was 65 in September. Hes still working in the painting business. Got two kids at university and one to go, so I have to, he said. Its been 13 yearssince Tony Sweeney was forced into greyhound racing retirement, but not until he had set the racing world alight nationally. Tony Sweeney raced and trained Sophocles (Royal Rumpus-Dark Harlequin) who won 21 races in succession in Mount Isa during 1987 the longest winning sequence by a greyhound in Australia to that time. The champion WA sprinter Kates A Scandal had held the record at 15. Just a short time ago, Tony was rummaging about and came across a host of greyhound racing memorabilia. When the track closed down, the club was going to toss everything out so I ended up with it, he said. Holding pride of place is the Sophocles memories. Cliff Garnham was working for me painting at the time and he used to come along to the dogs to watch my kennel race, said Tony. It was Cliffs proud boast that he was going to buy a good dog that would blow them all away up here in Mount Isa. It was a challenge for them both to find such a dog. Tony Sweeney, born in Ireland, had come to Australia as a young man and spent 25 years in greyhound racing in Mount Isa. He spent a stint as club president and even worked as the only bookie at the track through some testing times towards the end of racing there. Tony had been training a kennel of eight or nine dogs at any one time and had considerable success before Cliff reckoned it was time the pair of them bought that good dog. We looked up the dog papers in the south and spotted this dog in South Australia, said Tony. He was advertised for $7000. Tony and Cliff jumped on a plane, as you do, and headed to Adelaide to check out the youngster. We liked the little dog, said Tony. Emphasis on little. Sophocles was just 27.2kgs and he was a male. His owner was selling him because at 27.2 kilos he realised that if he did make it to top grade at Angle Park he was never going to be able to compete successfully against much bigger opposition, said Tony. He was royally bred. His mother Dark Harlequin had been one of the best stayers of her time. She was also a genetic sister to Val Matese one of the best sprinters of her time and who today is the fifth dam of champion Velocette. When we got to Adelaide, the owner put the dog around Angle Park for us, said Tony. But, while his racing weight was 27.2 kilos, Sophocles had put on a bit of weight by then. They bought him anyway because he was a brilliant beginner. Cliff was originally from Ballarat and he still had relatives over in Victoria so he and I and the dog shifted over to there, said Tony. No rest for the wicked Tony and Cliff tossed him straight into the heats of the Ballarat Cup. He was two kilos overweight and went no good. Then we took him to Sandown and gave him a run. Still overweight he went no good again. So they packed up their good dog and headed home to Mount Isa. It took him a while to settle in and he was a bit mediocre at first, said Tony. But once he got it all together, and got back to his right weight, thats when the 21 straight wins happened. It could have been many, many more in a row but for Tony feeling obligated as then Mount Isa club president to run the dog in the heats of the Mount Isa Cup. He was unbeatable over the sprint, he said. And why wouldnt he be. He was racing virtually the same dogs every single week. When stepped up to the longer distance of the Cup heats, Sophocles winning run came to an end. He was such a brilliant beginner, said Tony. He would have his nose resting on the lid of the starting box and the moment it moved, he moved. As the consecutive winning run continued, Tony, Cliff and Sophocles were national news. The Melbourne papers kept ringing every week to see how hed gone. In all, Sophocles won 63 races just about all of them at Mount Isa. I kept him until the day he died, said Tony. He was 11 and a half years old and I was back home in Ireland on a holiday when he died. He was a great little dog. Tony bred a litter by him out of a bitch of his own and admits while they won a few races, none were anywhere near the same class as their sire. With the demise of greyhound racing in the Isa, Tony settled down to work and raise a family. He and wife Maureen have three kids, Shannon, James and Liam. Maureen stood in as trainer for the final few years of racing in Mount Isa when Tony was bookie. He reckons the four years he spent as a bookie was the most frustrating of the 25 years he was involved in greyhound racing. I got quite bad tempered at times, he said. I do miss the dogs though. Quite a few of the boys who raced here years ago are still in the dogs especially Glen and Pat Carrington. I watch their dogs on Sky Racing all the time. Every time we go home to Ireland on holiday, we always make time to go dog racing in nearby Lifford. My dad and uncle both had dogs back in Ireland. These days the competition juices still flow in Tony Sweeney even though it is not training greyhounds. He has become a Master Games devotee. At the recent Master Games in Alice Springs, I entered quite a few disciplines, he said. I won the 100m and 400m, ran second in the 200m, second in the high jump, the shot put and third in the discus. In the discus he had to throw left handed because he had hurt his shoulder leading up to the Games. Six medals wasnt a bad haul. But it pales alongside the record of the 27.2kg speedster Sophocles. It was a record Tony Sweeney still cherishes.
Jamie Quinlivian Australia (Verified User) Posts 8727 Dogs 10 / Races 0 28 Dec 2019 03:11
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Fantastic article. Thanks David.
David Brasch Australia (Team Member) Posts 844 Dogs 2139 / Races 9672 28 Dec 2019 22:34
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TROPICAL ONE
IT is a measure of the achievement of Tropical One in establishing an Australian win streak record that even The Australian newspaper thought it big news. Tropical One (Ashigga-Intertesimal) is raced by Viv Montague and trained by her husband Stan. It's long been the premier greyhound racing partnership in Cairns. There's been plenty of achievements for the couple along the way, but Tropical One is something special. On April 24, Tropical One equalled Mount Isa star Sophocles' long-standing successive win record of 21 victories in a row. Then on May 1 he went one better and since then (to time of writing) he has stretched it to 23 in a row. Greyhound followers will struggle to remember the previous greyhound story run by The Australian newspaper. When Tropical One had the greyhound world captivated by his win chase back in April, The Australian sent a reporter to Montague's kennels and the result was a half page article on Page 7. Staggering stuff indeed. But Tropical One's feat deserved that attention ... and more. Every greyhound trainer knows just how tough it is to win a race, put together a couple in a row ... but 23 in a row, all in top grade, now that's something. Tropical One hasn't been beaten since he finished second on September 22 last year. Of course he's the Cairns 410m specialist. His record over the journey is 60 starts for 47 wins, seven seconds and one third. Montague, normally a publicity shy trainer, has had to grin and cope with the celebrity status that has been thrust upon him and his dog. But he has also handled it all with aplomb. "It's getting crazy," he said during it all. At one time he did four radio interviews in a week, had appointments with the local TV station, and was always answering reporters calls. (To time of writing) it continues. Stan gives all the credit for the win streak to his dog. "He's done it all," said Stan.
Tropical One took that consecutive record to 24 before running 2nd at Cairns on May 29, 2004. He won his next three starts but then broke down on July 3, 2004. He did not race again.
Tropical One started 79 times for 51 wins, 11 2nds and 2 3rds.
Daryl Barrett Australia (Verified User) Posts 1739 Dogs 1 / Races 0 29 Dec 2019 04:10
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G'day Gillian,Minnie Flyer won 30 on trot back in the mid '90,s ,was this the one you are recalling??
Steven Martin Australia (Verified User) Posts 7681 Dogs 180 / Races 66 29 Dec 2019 10:07
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daryl barrett wrote:
G'day Gillian,Minnie Flyer won 30 on trot back in the mid '90,s ,was this the one you are recalling??
Minnie Flyer won 50 from 80 starts but according to THE DOGS site, it didn't win 30 on the trot ---> EXTERNAL LINK
David Deguara United Kingdom (Team Member) Posts 958 Dogs 81 / Races 93 29 Dec 2019 14:56
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Re Minnie Flyer, Steven is correct.
As per 'the Dogs' site* Minnie Flyer won 30 consecutive races at Mackay from 03/02/1994 to 23/11/1995, however, these runs were interspersed at different times with runs (wins and defeats), at - Lawnton, Beenleigh and Capalaba.
*with some older greyhound's records 'the Dogs' site has some inaccuracies, however, Minnie Flyer's entire racing record is listed and accurate.
Daryl Barrett Australia (Verified User) Posts 1739 Dogs 1 / Races 0 29 Dec 2019 16:39
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steven martin wrote:
daryl barrett wrote:
G'day Gillian,Minnie Flyer won 30 on trot back in the mid '90,s ,was this the one you are recalling??
Minnie Flyer won 50 from 80 starts but according to THE DOGS site, it didn't win 30 on the trot ---> EXTERNAL LINK
Daryl Barrett Australia (Verified User) Posts 1739 Dogs 1 / Races 0 29 Dec 2019 16:45
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G'day Steve,thanks for that,i stand corrected,i thought those wins were consecutive,( sorry for my confusion Gillian ),& thanks David for confirming it.
Daryl Barrett Australia (Verified User) Posts 1739 Dogs 1 / Races 0 29 Dec 2019 17:42
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Steve,where did you find that info i cant seem to open that link?,infact,i can't find any info re Minnies Flyer, but i was sure it was 30 wins straight at Mackay ??#129300;,( maybe someone in Qld might know for sure...it's really bugging me to know "officially"..that's all.)cheers mate.
David Deguara United Kingdom (Team Member) Posts 958 Dogs 81 / Races 93 29 Dec 2019 18:03
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No problems Daryl.
It will be interesting to see if Turbo Thomas can break the record when next he races; irrespective, congratulations must go to the dog, Jason and Trent for the work done so far. The consecutive run by the dog (besides the dogs ability), is a clear indictment (if any was needed), what a great trainer, conditioner and "muscle man" Jason Mackay is.
The aforementioned said, kudos must go out to all dogs, trainers and owners who put together these consecutive winning runs; winning a couple of races in succession can be deemed an achievement (and is), but to get a dog to win the number of races in succession that this topic is about obviously takes an absolutely amazing dog and trainer (and possibly some luck along the way, but I shan't focus on that).
David Deguara United Kingdom (Team Member) Posts 958 Dogs 81 / Races 93 29 Dec 2019 18:06
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Daryl,
The link Steven put up to 'the Dogs' site isn't working due to the membership login restrictions of the site, but the following is a copy of the link for the Gordon Francis trained - Minnie Flyer (races only - information obtained from 'thedogs.com.au' site)
Mark Wilcox Australia (Verified User) Posts 264 Dogs 1 / Races 0 29 Dec 2019 18:43
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Daryl no it was tropical one thanks mate.
Steven Martin Australia (Verified User) Posts 7681 Dogs 180 / Races 66 29 Dec 2019 20:38
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david deguara wrote:
Re Minnie Flyer, Steven is correct.
As per 'the Dogs' site* Minnie Flyer won 30 consecutive races at Mackay from 03/02/1994 to 23/11/1995, however, these runs were interspersed at different times with runs (wins and defeats), at - Lawnton, Beenleigh and Capalaba.
*with some older greyhound's records 'the Dogs' site has some inaccuracies, however, Minnie Flyer's entire racing record is listed and accurate.
Hi Daryl. What David says (including about the DOGS site) is correct....and your half right about Minnie Flyer. She did win 30 on the trot at the Mackay Track, in between defeats on other tracks. Quite a record.
I wonder if another dog can come close to that record, let alone beat it on their home track? I certainly can't think of one.
David Deguara United Kingdom (Team Member) Posts 958 Dogs 81 / Races 93 29 Dec 2019 21:59
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Steven,
I did a google search on consecutive wins and came across this article by Duncan Stearn. It was written in November 2014. (copied as per published)
"The Best Track Winning Sequences
has been, at least in terms of finding out information via a centralized agency or a repository of knowledge and information.
As far as my own collection of information is concerned and it is far from complete- I can let Bruce, and others who might be interested, know that Dyna Villas efforts arguably pale into insignificance alongside a number of other performances down through the years. Of course, very few of the following have culminated with a victory in the most prestigious/richest race in the country.
To the best of my knowledge, the best winning sequence on a single track belongs to Queensland sprinter Minnie Flyer who put together an amazing run of 30 in a row at Mackay between 1994 and 1995, with 29 of them over 310 metres and one over 431 metres.
Next on the list are Station Master, who won 21 successive races at Cairns in the 1980s, and Sophocles, who notched 21 straight at Mount Isa in the late 1980s.
Naturally enough, city-class circuits dont see numbers like the above, but nonetheless, there are plenty of examples of long sequences.
The best Im aware of belongs to Paradise Street who won his first 14 consecutive starts over 700 metres at Cannington between 1998 and 1999. That number was equalled by Miata in 2012-2013 over the 715 metres trip at Cannington.
Back in 1974, Queenslands first champion, Top Simbi, won 13 on end over 558 metres at the Gabba, a feat later equalled down south in Victoria in 1980 when Striding Ahead won 13 straight over 511 metres at Olympic Park.
Champion stayer Arvos Junior won his first 13 starts over 715 metres at Sandown Park in 2003, thereby matching Striding Aheads Victorian city track record. So, Dyna Villa has a little way to go just yet.
Other notable achievements in sequences include Smooth Keith, who won 12 on end over 457 metres at Harold Park in 1977; the great Tenthill Doll who holds the Wentworth Park 520 metres record sequence, with 11 on end over 520 metres between 1995 and 1996.
Over the 720 metres distance at Wentworth Park, the record stands to the credit of Pearl Larricki, who won her first 10 on end between 2000 and 2001.
There are greyhounds who have remained undefeated on some courses, having put together decent sequences. Among these are Tempix, who was unbeaten in 10 starts over 424 metres at Warragul between 1978 and 1979; National Lee, who won nine on end over 732 metres at Harold Park, Roanokee, who was unbeaten in eight starts over 457 metres at Toowoomba; and Prince Of Tigers, undefeated in eight starts at Mandurah.
Finally, it was only two years ago, but how quickly we forget: the fabulously brief career of Fabregas, the 2012 National Sprint Championship winner, who is the equal of Dyna Villa, having raced eight times over 515 metres at Sandown, for eight wins."
Daryl Barrett Australia (Verified User) Posts 1739 Dogs 1 / Races 0 29 Dec 2019 22:29
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G'day David,thank's for that info,i am a member of "The Dog's site,but couldn't find it,yep..i did misunderstand slightly re consecutive wins on any track,not at one track,intrestling i noticed her starting price's,just about un backable except the first start at 12's...the local bookies must have cringed when she went around,also,maintaining those winning streak's virtually to the end.Thank's again mate.
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