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Yaakov Rishon Australia (Verified User) Posts 75 Dogs 0 / Races 0 02 Aug 2023 21:59
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This is now a Facebook page up and running with almost 500 members in 5 days. Please consider joining. doesn't matter which part of the world you are from. We need to have big numbers as numbers add weight to any argument. The aim is to confront the lies about our wonderful sport. These lies are being believed and this is leading to a groundswell of opposition. There are continued calls for the banning of our sport and the calls are getting louder and gathering more support.
AND IT IS ALL BASED UPON LIES
One example just today was a woman who asked why all greyhound trainers should be punished for the actions of two. The response was nothing but lies from the first word to the last. Claims of 'countless' trainers drugging their dogs with amphetamines, alcohol and cocaine. Claims of 'many' trainers shooting their dogs. These things just do not happen yet these claims are being published on social media every single day.
Our authorities are reactive and that is their role. But now, as participants who love the breed and the sport, it is time for us to be proactive.
Please visit the page on Facebook. It's called Countering Lies About Greyhound Racing. And join our struggle.
If we continue to sit back and do nothing, then it wont be long until that is all we will be doing.
Sandro Bechini Australia (Verified User) Posts 19488 Dogs 15268 / Races 1856 02 Aug 2023 23:22
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This movement is real so please look us up and join in.
I want a 1000 members by Saturday.
If you care about the future of your sport, not just in your own backyard, but worldwide, then join us to confront the lies and abuse of our genuine, hard-working ethical participants head-on
The Authorities aren't using their resources to do this job.
We, combined, as a worldwide community has to do it.
Sandro Bechini Australia (Verified User) Posts 19488 Dogs 15268 / Races 1856 03 Aug 2023 00:19
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PLEASE ENSURE WHEN APPLYING FOR MEMBERSHIP TO THE GROUP THAT YOU ANSWER THE QUESTIONS
Peter Bryce Australia (Verified User) Posts 706 Dogs 0 / Races 0 06 Aug 2023 05:55
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Yaakov, These legal Campaigns should be led and funded by Greyhound Racing Authorities Worldwide representing Owners Breeders Trainers. Protection of The Greyhound Racing Industry should not be left to participants.3
Peter Bryce Australia (Verified User) Posts 706 Dogs 0 / Races 0 06 Aug 2023 05:57
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Yaakov, These legal Campaigns should be led and funded by Greyhound Racing Authorities Worldwide representing Owners Breeders Trainers. Protection of The Greyhound Racing Industry should not be left to participants
Yaakov Rishon Australia (Verified User) Posts 75 Dogs 0 / Races 0 06 Aug 2023 07:41
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Peter Bryce wrote:
Yaakov, These legal Campaigns should be led and funded by Greyhound Racing Authorities Worldwide representing Owners Breeders Trainers. Protection of The Greyhound Racing Industry should not be left to participants
Yes Peter, we know. It should be but it isn't. Participants simply can no longer sit back and wait for the authorities to act. They don't, they won't, so we will.
Peter Bryce Australia (Verified User) Posts 706 Dogs 0 / Races 0 08 Aug 2023 02:03
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Yaakov then this raises the question how much consultation/lobbying with Greyhound Racing Authorities and Government Sport/Racing Ministers TAB CEOs etc has taken place. If nil then there is a lot of catching up to do. Owner Trainer Breeder representative bodies need a State/Country - Global coordinated effort. Without the involvement of the Government/Racing and other Organisations across 3 Codes I feel you are flogging a DEAD HORSE no pun intended.
Yaakov Rishon Australia (Verified User) Posts 75 Dogs 0 / Races 0 08 Aug 2023 16:17
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Peter, if your passion and reason for getting out of bed every day is the Collingwood Football Club, and the ABC and other not-for-profit groups are passionate about destroying your beloved Collingwood Football Club, and they continually produce lies to tarnish the reputation of the Collingwood Football Club - Do you ask the Collingwood Football Club permission to fire back? Or do you gather around a group of like minded followers of the CFC and decide that enough is enough? Let the players play football, let the coaches coach, let the committee handle sponsorship and running of the club and let the supporters defend their beloved club against falsehoods.
Our authorities are engaged with Government bodies and stewardship of the sport/industry. They have access to sporting ministers etc. Whether we like it or not, they are doing their job and without them we would be history. Our state GOTBAs have a role to keep our authorities accountable and to be a voice for participants. And that leaves the passionate ones to engage with the antis, to point out their blatant lies, slandering and defamation. We don't need to lobby anyone to do that. Enough is enough. Nobody should ever need permission to defend and fight for what they love.
Peter Bryce Australia (Verified User) Posts 706 Dogs 0 / Races 0 09 Aug 2023 06:29
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Yaakov I think your response with reference to Collingwood Football Club is more cynical than constructive. The Sport of Racing with regard to antis is not one Sport nor is it one Country. Antis have already destroyed Greyhound Racing in other countries. Perhaps its only a matter of time before it impacts other Racing Code shutdowns in countries worldwide. My point is that Owner Trainer Breeders over 3 Codes globally need to do more lobbying of their Members of Parliaments - Particularly Racing Ministers to demand support against Antis even though some will see it as not attracting votes. These Governments need to continually be reminded of the National revenue return from the 3 codes. Further, The National Property, Motor Vehicle, Retail, Professional (Veterinarians) Manufacturing Industries, Media outlets (Broadcasting) Industries that are reliant on $$$$$$Billions that are generated by the 3 codes all need to get involved as their livelihoods are at risk. This $$$$$$ Asset and Revenue far exceeds AFL Football.
Sandro Bechini Australia (Verified User) Posts 19488 Dogs 15268 / Races 1856 09 Aug 2023 07:02
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Peter Bryce wrote:
Yaakov I think your response with reference to Collingwood Football Club is more cynical than constructive. The Sport of Racing with regard to antis is not one Sport nor is it one Country. Antis have already destroyed Greyhound Racing in other countries. Perhaps its only a matter of time before it impacts other Racing Code shutdowns in countries worldwide. My point is that Owner Trainer Breeders over 3 Codes globally need to do more lobbying of their Members of Parliaments - Particularly Racing Ministers to demand support against Antis even though some will see it as not attracting votes. These Governments need to continually be reminded of the National revenue return from the 3 codes. Further, The National Property, Motor Vehicle, Retail, Professional (Veterinarians) Manufacturing Industries, Media outlets (Broadcasting) Industries that are reliant on $$$$$$Billions that are generated by the 3 codes all need to get involved as their livelihoods are at risk. This $$$$$$ Revenue far exceeds AFL Football.
Nothing cynical about it
It was purely a metaphor
Bronwyn Welsh Australia (Verified User) Posts 140 Dogs 0 / Races 0 11 Aug 2023 08:54
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Joined - great idea - lead the way guys!
Peter Bryce Australia (Verified User) Posts 706 Dogs 0 / Races 0 11 Aug 2023 23:53
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MP Andrew Wilkie from Tasmania has started a push to end Greyhound Racing in Australia through Federal Parliament. Industry Participants need to remind MP Wilkie how the "POWER OF THE PEOPLE" ended the Political Career of Ex NSW Premier Mike Baird. Don't embarrass yourself or the Greyhound Industry, Refrain from abuse and bad language it wont advance the cause. MP Wilkie needs to be reminded of the benefits of the Industry to the National Economy. Property , Motor Vehicles, Produce Stores, Veterinarians, Trainers Kennel Staff Employed, Race Venue employment, Catering, TAB Revenue to Government, Petrol, Motor Vehicle Repairs, Manufacturing, Revenue and taxes, this list goes on. The affects of the above on Local communities Australia wide would be devastating.
MP Wilkie needs to explain how. Cattle, Sheep, Alpacas in paddocks in the elements, storms, heat waves, transport to market, Show dogs trained in Obedience to jump hurdles, and go through tunnels, Police Dogs trained to attack and bring down Criminals, Airport Drug sniffer dogs, Equestrian Horses Cross Country - Show jumping, Race Pigeons, Poultry Industry, Pig Industry etc etc are in any way different than the Horse and Greyhound Racing Industry. The revenue to the National economy from Greyhound Betting is $11 Billion alone. Then consider Thoroughbred and Harness Racing Betting revenue. Then there is Stamp Duty and Taxes, GST, on Property, Motor Vehicles, Fuel excise etc. The unemployment that the Banning of this Industry would create would be Political suicide for a MP choosing to embark on the same path that ended the Political career of a NSW Premier.
Want to get in touch with MP Wilkie? Email. [email protected] ; Phone. 03 6234 5255 ; Office. 188 Collins St Hobart ; Media Enquiries. 0427 291 785.
Peter Bryce Australia (Verified User) Posts 706 Dogs 0 / Races 0 12 Aug 2023 00:41
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My email to Tasmanian MP Andrew Wilkie
Hello Mr Andrew Wilkie, I believe you have started a push to end Greyhound Racing in Australia through Federal Parliament. Mr Wilkie, Greyhound Racing Industry Participants believe they need to remind you how the "POWER OF THE PEOPLE" ended the Political Career of Ex NSW Premier Mike Baird.
Mr Wilkie may we remind you of the benefits the Industry brings to the National Economy. Sales of and in Property , Motor Vehicles, Produce Stores, Veterinarians, Trainers Kennel Staff Employed, Race Venue employment, Catering, TAB Revenue to Government, Petrol, Motor Vehicle Repairs, Manufacturing, Revenue and taxes, this list goes on. The affects of your proposed Ban on Local communities Australia wide would be devastating.
Mr Wilkie please explain how. Cattle, Sheep, Alpacas in paddocks in the elements, storms, heat waves, transport to market, Show dogs trained in Obedience to jump hurdles, and go through tunnels, Police Dogs trained to attack and bring down Criminals, Airport Drug sniffer dogs, Equestrian Horses Cross Country - Show jumping, Race Pigeons, Poultry Industry, Pig Industry etc etc are in any way different than the Horse and Greyhound Racing Industry. The revenue to the National economy from Greyhound Betting is $11 Billion alone. Then consider Thoroughbred and Harness Racing Betting revenue. Then there is Stamp Duty and Taxes, GST, on Property, Motor Vehicles, Fuel excise etc. The unemployment that the Banning of this Industry would create would be Political suicide for a MP choosing to embark on the same path that ended the Political career of a NSW Premier.
I am interested to hear your reasoning behind your decision to embark on a Ban of Greyhound Racing through Federal Parliament.
Peter Bryce.
I will post MP Wilkies reply here when and if received
I invite Industry Participants to contact their local Greyhound Racing Club and peak body to inform them of MP Andrew Wilkies move. Contacting your Local MP can be an option for a later date should MP Wilkies proposal gain legs. Also posts in Facebook Local community Noticeboards in Towns/Cities where Greyhound Tracks are located, creating awareness of the devastating effects on their local Businesses and the broader community of MP Wilkies proposed Ban. I invite you to Copy Paste all or extracts of my post for this purpose.
Yaakov Rishon Australia (Verified User) Posts 75 Dogs 0 / Races 0 12 Aug 2023 03:33
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Peter Bryce wrote:
Don't embarrass yourself or the Greyhound Industry
Pot and kettle much?
Peter Bryce Australia (Verified User) Posts 706 Dogs 0 / Races 0 12 Aug 2023 04:03
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Yaakov "Don't embarrass yourself or the Greyhound Industry, Refrain from abuse and bad language it wont advance the cause". Please highlight the abuse and or bad language in my article? Pot Kettle?? your hands must be warm - Sitting on them. Its hard helping those who cant help themself.
Yaakov Rishon Australia (Verified User) Posts 75 Dogs 0 / Races 0 12 Aug 2023 04:57
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No my hands are freezing from walking dogs at 5.30AM
I haven't asked for help Peter. And to be honest, if I needed help, you would not be on my top ten list. If you think writing to a federal pollie, who will not write back, will do any good at all. Good for you. Nobody is stopping you.
The facebook group has been started and it will continue. Why don't you humble yourself for a change and join in?
P.S. I wont be responding to you from now.
Peter Bryce Australia (Verified User) Posts 706 Dogs 0 / Races 0 13 Aug 2023 01:03
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Yaakov It may surprise you that when NSW ex Premier Mike Baird proposed the Ban of Greyhound Racing in NSW I wrote to all NSW MPs in Upper and Lower Houses. I received many replies, both positive and negative. The negative mainly came from splinter parties, Animal Action Groups etc. The Greens were in this negative category also. What writing to these MPs did tell me was which MPs were and werent in support of Greyhound Racing in NSW. This information was invaluable. I posted many of these replies on my Facebook Page, which supplied information to participants as to the direction of THEIR MP. However I received a lot of replies from MPs who were not in support of a ban. NSW MP Robert Borsak of The Fisher Shooter Farmers Party fully supported Greyhound Racing and was very active in the NSW Parliament at the time in his defense of Greyhound Racing. Robert let a lobby in the NSW Parliament for support of the Industry and swayed several MPs for their final NO BAN vote in the House. At the time I received countless messages from Greyhound Racing participants worldwide thanking me for the updates on progress of Mike Bairds proposed Ban that I posted on FaceBook. Contrary to your opinion that MPs don't respond to concerns of the Voters in their Electorate and others outside of their Electorate, my experience says otherwise. So I will do my part for the Great Sport Of Greyhound Racing, doing it My Way.
Michael Fitzgerald Australia (Verified User) Posts 713 Dogs 11 / Races 25 14 Aug 2023 07:39
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Chaps,
May I suggest we don't start arguing with each other.
Antis are on here and will blow it out of proportion (and copy, redact and paste as needed) on their websites.
We all did our bit to counter the nonsense (and blatant lies) and arguments they came forward with in 2016.
Unity, and facts, are all we need.
Yaakov Rishon Australia (Verified User) Posts 75 Dogs 0 / Races 0 14 Aug 2023 07:54
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Correct Michael. Which is why I informed Mr.Bryce that I will no longer be responding to him. On here, or when he trolls me on Facebook
Peter Bryce Australia (Verified User) Posts 706 Dogs 0 / Races 0 14 Aug 2023 08:43
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Yaakov Rishon wrote:
Correct Michael. Which is why I informed Mr.Bryce that I will no longer be responding to him. On here, or when he trolls me on Facebook
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