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Jay Ferguson Australia (Verified User) Posts 83 Dogs 2 / Races 0 26 Nov 2023 22:25
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. Boarding of greyhounds that are awaiting GAP entry. Is this really a thing now, Is there a demand for this type of service? Specifically in Victoria but I'm also interested to hear what's going on in other States.
Please share your knowledge and experiences.
What are you paying for this service, what are you charging for this service? I've heard as low as $60 per week and as high as $30 per day to board 1 greyhound.
What is a reasonable ask for boarding a greyhound these days especially considering the going rates in the domestic dog market?
What's the demand like for this service, is it readily available or are spots limited? Do you think demand for this type of service will increase or decrease into the future? Why?
All input appreciated, please feel free to answer all or any. TIA .
Michael Fitzgerald Australia (Verified User) Posts 713 Dogs 11 / Races 25 27 Nov 2023 03:53
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Jay
I know of a number of trainers here in NSW with half their kennels being taken up by dogs waiting to be re-homed; some for as long as 12 months.
I think this is very common and is, imho, the reason people aren't buying pups in the numbers they used to. Trainers just don't have the space to take on new dogs and owners are battling to find a trainer unless it's well above average. It's certainly the case for me and the syndicate I'm in.
It's all fine-and-dandy GRNSW putting on million dollar races and the like, but I'm yet to see what they're doing to encourage people to purchase dogs by providing places where those dogs can live out their days; especially in these financially difficult times where disposable income is severely limited and more and more people are living in accommodation that is unsuitable to a retired racer.
So, to answer your question, YES, there's an enormous and increasing demand for establishments to be set up to cater for these dogs.
If not, greyhound racing will disappear up it's own clacker.
Jack Ogilvie Australia (Verified User) Posts 15483 Dogs 0 / Races 1 27 Nov 2023 09:41
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Well said Michael.
Julie McLean Australia (Verified User) Posts 6 Dogs 0 / Races 0 27 Nov 2023 23:41
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Yes, here in WA, people are charging $100-$120/week to board GAP dogs. Been going on for a few months now, and will probably be the norm for quite some time. HUGE backlog at GAP - they are not even taking any dogs for a while until they make room. GAP have bought another property to take 100 dogs but that won't be ready for couple of years.
Hayden Gilders Australia (Verified User) Posts 993 Dogs 29 / Races 0 29 Nov 2023 00:58
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In a boarding / holding kennel who will be responsible for the socialisation of the dog cause if its not done it wont pass the assessment test and may be returned to the owner for another gap year
Sandro Bechini Australia (Verified User) Posts 19488 Dogs 15268 / Races 1856 29 Nov 2023 01:21
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Our Associations should be paying licensed participants with kennel room to house and socialize these dogs, perhaps with a contribution from the owner as well
Appropriate monitoring by GAP reps needs to be done regularly to ensure that the greyhound is becoming pet-ready and not just wasting away in a kennel
It may incentivize participants with appropriately zoned land to build more kennels and start doing this as a secondary income to their own activities
Michael Fitzgerald Australia (Verified User) Posts 713 Dogs 11 / Races 25 29 Nov 2023 02:20
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Sandro Bechini wrote:
Our Associations should be paying licensed participants with kennel room to house and socialize these dogs, perhaps with a contribution from the owner as well
Appropriate monitoring by GAP reps needs to be done regularly to ensure that the greyhound is becoming pet-ready and not just wasting away in a kennel
It may incentivize participants with appropriately zoned land to build more kennels and start doing this as a secondary income to their own activities
Very well said Sandro.
I know as an owner that I have a responsibility to ensure from the time I purchase it until the day it finds a new home that it has the best life possible. That includes the period when it is retired and awaiting a forever home.
Included in this responsibility is the financial aspect where I pay for it post-racing; but what I'm yet to see is any evidence of some sort of assistance being offered to me (and the many, many others in my situation) by those whose jobs and livelihood depend on a steady turning over of new stock hitting the tracks.
I'm talking about GRNSW, GBOTA, GWIC and the state government who are more than happy to stick out their hands for funding and taxes but who, at the same time, will soon be (in the first three examples) redundant if they don't see that this is a huge crisis which only looks like it's going to get worse.
There's an absolute bottle-neck of older dogs going out and there's no room for new dogs to come through but, what do we hear from the powers that be?
Nothing but silence.
Mark Wilcox Australia (Verified User) Posts 264 Dogs 1 / Races 0 29 Nov 2023 02:32
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All dogs can not be rehomed the same as all horses can not eat grass in paddocks forever,the rehoming is great for a lot of dogs but the way we are going there will be thousands of dogs with nowhere to go and what will happen then,Besides the finish of the industry.The trouble was the powers to be let the antis have there way instead of running our own race and if things do not change quickly owners and trainers are in big trouble we need GRNSW to make some positive changes the CEO thinks everything is rosy with the rehoming if you can not move dogs on we are all stuffed .
Ross McMillan Australia (Verified User) Posts 4 Dogs 0 / Races 0 29 Nov 2023 03:11
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Maybe it's time the owners of the dogs put a bit more thought into what happens to them post career.
Ryan Vanderwert Australia (Verified User) Posts 5958 Dogs 8 / Races 0 29 Nov 2023 03:27
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FGS Ross that's all owners do, that's why so many of them don't want to be involved in the sport now, but I'd guess that'd suit your argument. Don't worry about the pleasure anyone else gets from the sport so long as your needs are met. ====================================================================
Jay, getting back on topic, I've heard of someone paying $80pw in Vic.
Mark Wilcox Australia (Verified User) Posts 264 Dogs 1 / Races 0 29 Nov 2023 04:23
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Ross the owners have put a lot more thought into what happens that is why people are not buying pups or race dogs so have you got any other ideas .
Ross McMillan Australia (Verified User) Posts 4 Dogs 0 / Races 0 29 Nov 2023 04:29
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Ryan Vanderwert wrote:
FGS Ross that's all owners do, that's why so many of them don't want to be involved in the sport now, but I'd guess that'd suit your argument. Don't worry about the pleasure anyone else gets from the sport so long as your needs are met. ====================================================================
Jay, getting back on topic, I've heard of someone paying $80pw in Vic.
There's a service that's being provided, and obviously being used by owners. So they haven't really thought about what happens to a dog that they own post racing. I get great pleasure out of watching my dog racing, but I also know that it's a birth to death responsibility to look after them once I've taken ownership of them.
Ryan Vanderwert Australia (Verified User) Posts 5958 Dogs 8 / Races 0 29 Nov 2023 04:44
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Yeah, and you'd be only owner doing that Ross.
Which dog do you own as a matter of interest ?
Ross McMillan Australia (Verified User) Posts 4 Dogs 0 / Races 0 29 Nov 2023 05:32
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Ryan Vanderwert wrote:
Yeah, and you'd be only owner doing that Ross.
Which dog do you own as a matter of interest ?
I've got one racing at the moment, Invisible Light and also have an unraced Bernardo bitch.
Ryan Vanderwert Australia (Verified User) Posts 5958 Dogs 8 / Races 0 29 Nov 2023 06:22
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My apologies Ross, you sounded a little like an anti to me with only one post on the forum telling us all how we shld be thinking about this subject.
A sincere welcome to the forum.
I know of a few people housing many of their dogs themselves post racing waiting for GAP positions. I know these people were thinking of life after racing for their dogs but have been caught out because of the inability to sell pups in the current market. I think it's a little insensitive saying "........So they haven't really thought about what happens to a dog that they own post racing......."
Anyway we are all entitled to our opinions and yours was harsh imo, as many are doing it hard atm and a lot are leaving/scaling down as a result. Cheers.
Jay Ferguson Australia (Verified User) Posts 83 Dogs 2 / Races 0 30 Nov 2023 18:35
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Heaps of opinions, valid too, but would be much appreciated if there were some answers to my initial questions thrown in amongst it. To those that have, thanks.
Jay Ferguson Australia (Verified User) Posts 83 Dogs 2 / Races 0 01 Dec 2023 08:54
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Sandro Bechini wrote:
Our Associations should be paying licensed participants with kennel room to house and socialize these dogs, perhaps with a contribution from the owner as well
Appropriate monitoring by GAP reps needs to be done regularly to ensure that the greyhound is becoming pet-ready and not just wasting away in a kennel
It may incentivize participants with appropriately zoned land to build more kennels and start doing this as a secondary income to their own activities
. Agree, would be a good move Sandro. But what should they charge in today's climate, how much are people charging now? Youve always got your finger on the pulse mate, help me out here, what are you hearing?
Gayle Lemin Australia (Verified User) Posts 616 Dogs 10 / Races 0 02 Dec 2023 08:20
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Jay most are charging $100.00 a week with some also offering the service of taking the dog to gap appointment.
John Charles Caulfield Australia (Verified User) Posts 396 Dogs 2 / Races 0 02 Dec 2023 21:44
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if you are offering that service just keep in mind if the owner decides not to pay you will be stuck with the dog
Jay Ferguson Australia (Verified User) Posts 83 Dogs 2 / Races 0 03 Dec 2023 22:48
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Gayle Lemin wrote:
Jay most are charging $100.00 a week with some also offering the service of taking the dog to gap appointment.
Thanks Gayle, for the input. Probably not that bad really compared to what it costs to board a domestic dog these days.
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