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Ian Armour Australia (Verified User) Posts 203 Dogs 2 / Races 15 11 May 2009 10:49
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Ohh excuse me then Karen my mistake, I was unaware that injuries were restricted to Albion Park and at no other track in Australia!
Tom Flanagan Australia (Verified User) Posts 7250 Dogs 974 / Races 1022 11 May 2009 10:49
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karen grimley wrote:
Ian Armour wrote:
There obviously are reasons why connections scratch a dog from a meeting..sick, injured etc What has it got to do with the state of QLD racing that dogs are scratched for legitimate reasons??
It's got everything to do with the state of racing in QLD.......considering the so called Board allows racing to continue at the Albion GOAT track.
EXTERNAL LINK Another one bites the dust.....no doubt he never made it into the official injury count either!!!!!
Excuse me Karen but what is wrong with Albion Park as a track??
There are tracks I'm not keen to race at but Albion Park isn't one of them.
Ian Armour Australia (Verified User) Posts 203 Dogs 2 / Races 15 11 May 2009 10:51
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Tom Flanagan wrote:
karen grimley wrote:
Ian Armour wrote:
There obviously are reasons why connections scratch a dog from a meeting..sick, injured etc What has it got to do with the state of QLD racing that dogs are scratched for legitimate reasons??
It's got everything to do with the state of racing in QLD.......considering the so called Board allows racing to continue at the Albion GOAT track.
EXTERNAL LINK Another one bites the dust.....no doubt he never made it into the official injury count either!!!!!
Excuse me Karen but what is wrong with Albion Park as a track??
There are tracks I'm not keen to race at but Albion Park isn't one of them.
A very good question Tom
Karen Grimley Australia (Verified User) Posts 94 Dogs 2 / Races 7 11 May 2009 11:38
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It's called the CAMBER......which causes mayhem and serious injury at EVERY meeting.
Obviously a couple of "experts" on here haven't witnessed dogs attempting to scramble around the first corner.
Getting that bad, we'll need to breed dogs with nearside legs 4 inches longer than the offside.
Tom Flanagan Australia (Verified User) Posts 7250 Dogs 974 / Races 1022 11 May 2009 12:46
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karen grimley wrote:
I0. t's called the CAMBER......which causes mayhem and serious injury at EVERY meeting.
Obviously a couple of "experts" on here haven't witnessed dogs attempting to scramble around the first corner.
Getting that bad, we'll need to breed dogs with nearside legs 4 inches longer than the offside.
who's calling themself an expert Karen? It seems you are the one that knows it all and the rest of us are ignorant.
Mal Dawson Australia (Verified User) Posts 5640 Dogs 27 / Races 65 11 May 2009 20:41
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Tom i dont know about the camber on the 1st corner or the lack of it on the home corner or pulling up to hard on the track instead of soft ground but there has been an alarming amount of hock problems at ALBION over the last few weeks. KAREN is right in one sense alot of problems are being noticed in the days after there run and people arent notifying the powers to be, which inturn keeps there stats looking fantastic. Unless we can get everyone to notify the BRISBANE CLUB when they are alerted to a problem then nothing will be ever fixed. You will find that LUKE only wants the best for his CLUB and he has nothing to work on if he doesnt know theres a problem.
PETE.C do you now it is an offence to bring drugs back into this country.......lol
Jack Zappala Australia (Verified User) Posts 1336 Dogs 16 / Races 0 11 May 2009 21:43
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Hi Mal
Thats so true they has been many problems with alot of greyhounds having hock problems, i remember made to size doin his hock at albion, he did it on the last turn around the track deep on the rail. see dogs like queens lauryn comsic rumble love to race wide, an thats why i think there very susscuful coz they dont race on the rail. same with whisky assassin he never railled many top greyhounds dont race next to the rail, but back to topic. there is a problem with the way the track is camberd maybe someone gotta do something if the greys keep breakin there hocks
mal dawson wrote:
Tom i dont know about the camber on the 1st corner or the lack of it on the home corner or pulling up to hard on the track instead of soft ground but there has been an alarming amount of hock problems at ALBION over the last few weeks. KAREN is right in one sense alot of problems are being noticed in the days after there run and people arent notifying the powers to be, which inturn keeps there stats looking fantastic. Unless we can get everyone to notify the BRISBANE CLUB when they are alerted to a problem then nothing will be ever fixed. You will find that LUKE only wants the best for his CLUB and he has nothing to work on if he doesnt know theres a problem.
PETE.C do you now it is an offence to bring drugs back into this country.......lol
Tom Flanagan Australia (Verified User) Posts 7250 Dogs 974 / Races 1022 11 May 2009 21:58
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mal dawson wrote:
Tom i dont know about the camber on the 1st corner or the lack of it on the home corner or pulling up to hard on the track instead of soft ground but there has been an alarming amount of hock problems at ALBION over the last few weeks. KAREN is right in one sense alot of problems are being noticed in the days after there run and people arent notifying the powers to be, which inturn keeps there stats looking fantastic. Unless we can get everyone to notify the BRISBANE CLUB when they are alerted to a problem then nothing will be ever fixed. You will find that LUKE only wants the best for his CLUB and he has nothing to work on if he doesnt know theres a problem.
PETE.C do you now it is an offence to bring drugs back into this country.......lol
Thanks for the info Mal - had no problems in December to February with mine but haven't been there since. maybe Karen can take note and see how to give a helpful reply.
Mal Dawson Australia (Verified User) Posts 5640 Dogs 27 / Races 65 11 May 2009 22:41
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Jack Martin Zappala wrote:
Hi Mal
Thats so true they has been many problems with alot of greyhounds having hock problems, i remember made to size doin his hock at albion, he did it on the last turn around the track deep on the rail. see dogs like queens lauryn comsic rumble love to race wide, an thats why i think there very susscuful coz they dont race on the rail. same with whisky assassin he never railled many top greyhounds dont race next to the rail, but back to topic. there is a problem with the way the track is camberd maybe someone gotta do something if the greys keep breakin there hocks
mal dawson wrote:
Tom i dont know about the camber on the 1st corner or the lack of it on the home corner or pulling up to hard on the track instead of soft ground but there has been an alarming amount of hock problems at ALBION over the last few weeks. KAREN is right in one sense alot of problems are being noticed in the days after there run and people arent notifying the powers to be, which inturn keeps there stats looking fantastic. Unless we can get everyone to notify the BRISBANE CLUB when they are alerted to a problem then nothing will be ever fixed. You will find that LUKE only wants the best for his CLUB and he has nothing to work on if he doesnt know theres a problem.
PETE.C do you now it is an offence to bring drugs back into this country.......lol
JACK there could be a thousand reasons why theres been a few hock problems, but if people dont report them then we are only guessing where the problem lies. 1. the track may be getting over used. 2. it may be getting preped to often or not often enough 3. pulling up on hard surface. 4. to much or not enough camber. 5. dogs could be overacing or not racing enough. 6. genetic problem wit certain breeds 7. may just be co-incidance 8. etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc
One thing that gets on my goat is when someone says to me...
THIS HAPPENED TO MY DOG LAST WEEK OR THE WEEK B4. And when i ask did they inform someone of the incident they say... U GUESSED IT...........NO And b4 any change can take place the powers to be need to make they are making the changes for the right reasons and that the changes will only help any problems. I know the BGRC are going to trial an alternative lure to the one we presently use and lets hope this eliminates certain problems we are now encountering.
Jack Zappala Australia (Verified User) Posts 1336 Dogs 16 / Races 0 11 May 2009 22:49
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HI TOM
I seen u won the 10% share in a pup out of queen lauryn which stud dog did u recommond an is it happening soon?
Tom Flanagan wrote:
mal dawson wrote:
Tom i dont know about the camber on the 1st corner or the lack of it on the home corner or pulling up to hard on the track instead of soft ground but there has been an alarming amount of hock problems at ALBION over the last few weeks. KAREN is right in one sense alot of problems are being noticed in the days after there run and people arent notifying the powers to be, which inturn keeps there stats looking fantastic. Unless we can get everyone to notify the BRISBANE CLUB when they are alerted to a problem then nothing will be ever fixed. You will find that LUKE only wants the best for his CLUB and he has nothing to work on if he doesnt know theres a problem.
PETE.C do you now it is an offence to bring drugs back into this country.......lol
Thanks for the info Mal - had no problems in December to February with mine but haven't been there since. maybe Karen can take note and see how to give a helpful reply.
Sue Burley Australia (Verified User) Posts 5559 Dogs 10310 / Races 14781 11 May 2009 23:13
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From The Greyhounds Queensland website
Logan update 12 May, 2009.
GREYHOUNDS Queensland expects the second phase geotechnical report on Cronulla Park to be delivered at the end of June.
Cronulla Park is the preferred site of a new greyhound racing complex.
General manager Darren Beavis said a two week delay was forced due to issues with one of the contractors.
Drilling is underway and Beavis and GQL chair Kerry Watson met with Logan Council officials yesterday.
"We met deputy mayor Russell Lutton and officers from infrastructure services at the Council," said Beavis.
"We brought Russell and the Council's officers up to date with plans for Cronulla Park and the geotechnical studies.
"The Council is very supportive of our plans and we will know more once the report has been presented late in June."
Lyn Barron
Posts 37 Dogs 5 / Races 0 12 May 2009 00:01
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Talking to Deputy Mayor Russell Lutton (a greyhound owner) His ambition is to win the very first race at Cronulla Park.
Jack Zappala Australia (Verified User) Posts 1336 Dogs 16 / Races 0 12 May 2009 00:50
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Also seen that townsville will become a TAB TRACK if the proposals go thru?
Scott Taylor Australia (Verified User) Posts 1114 Dogs 300 / Races 161 12 May 2009 00:56
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Had a TAB meeting at Rockhamptom last week as well. Is that going to be a regular thing?
Dan Hollywood Australia (Verified User) Posts 6026 Dogs 28 / Races 32 12 May 2009 01:37
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GREYHOUNDS Queensland expects the second phase geotechnical report on Cronulla Park to be delivered at the end of June.
THAT WILL DEPEND ON THE EPA.
Cronulla Park is the preferred site of a new greyhound racing complex.
PREFERED SITE FOR WHO?
Drilling is underway and Beavis and GQL chair Kerry Watson met with Logan Council officials yesterday
AGAIN REFER EPA
Traveston Dam has a minor hiccup also which the Premier says will delay things a few months (more than a few months have passed), it will be more like years and will soon be forgotten. Same scenario here im afraid.
Townsville will not hold tab meetings for long, they will more like be gone soon after.
Louise Inall Australia (Verified User) Posts 876 Dogs 31 / Races 0 12 May 2009 01:38
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Hope so Scott it is good to see the dogs racing up that way. I actually watched a couple of the races from Rocky last week as I was surprised that they were on.
Jack Zappala Australia (Verified User) Posts 1336 Dogs 16 / Races 0 12 May 2009 05:09
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Hey Dan
Ive got a qesation for everyone breeders trainners
If townsville gos on an becomes a TAB Track. all the dogs n bitch we send there, that are not up to our class at albion park ETC. are gunna be now City winning dogs n bitchs if they win? how well we going to split them up.
Can i have some thoughts on this?
Dan hollywood wrote:
GREYHOUNDS Queensland expects the second phase geotechnical report on Cronulla Park to be delivered at the end of June.
THAT WILL DEPEND ON THE EPA.
Cronulla Park is the preferred site of a new greyhound racing complex.
PREFERED SITE FOR WHO?
Drilling is underway and Beavis and GQL chair Kerry Watson met with Logan Council officials yesterday
AGAIN REFER EPA
Traveston Dam has a minor hiccup also which the Premier says will delay things a few months (more than a few months have passed), it will be more like years and will soon be forgotten. Same scenario here im afraid.
Townsville will not hold tab meetings for long, they will more like be gone soon after.
Dan Hollywood Australia (Verified User) Posts 6026 Dogs 28 / Races 32 12 May 2009 05:44
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Tab winners Jack, not in town.
Pat Hennessy Australia (Verified User) Posts 1553 Dogs 6 / Races 6 12 May 2009 06:12
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Mal Dawson, Have any of the injuries at Albion in recent times got anything to do with the finish on lure ??
I know of at least 2 very prominent trainers who seem to think so.
Not suggesting that camber or lack there of dont contribute, but what is the perfect configuration ? I dont think there is one as dogs seem to do hocks on all tracks even Capalaba or Appin.
In the States where design and preparation is a lot different to ours trainers still complain about hock fractures or dislocations.
One of the first things that young trainers should learn is how to check out their own dogs after every run, after all these years i'm still amazed at the number of trainers who have not got a clue just how to check a dog thouroughly.
Hock problems can very often be picked up before major damage occurs if you know what your doing.
But i agree with you 100%, if you have a problem, collect your evidence and approach the right people about it, dont just winge on G-Data.
Cheers.
Graeme Beasley Australia (Verified User) Posts 3265 Dogs 27 / Races 5 12 May 2009 07:53
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Hock injuries also seem to be more common in certain bloodlines, as in Chook's example above.