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Rob Wall
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01 Mar 2018 05:11


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what about capalaba im reserve there 8 races on the card plenty of dogs around cant even get a run


Terry Jordan
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darren russell wrote:

Hi Cynthia , all this is giving interstate dogs the same advantage we get going interstate to race as 5th graders , if you've won 2 city races same rules should apply , 4th grade in all distance groups .

Qld dogs have been able to rape & pillage the NSW grading system for years. We have complained, only to fall on deaf ears.


Brian Terry
Australia
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02 Mar 2018 01:34


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steven martin wrote:

rob wall wrote:

what are your talking about shortage 150 noms for sunday ipswich so 50 dogs sit home

150 noms for Sunday at Ipswich & all racing are over 288m = SMOKE & MIRRORS Rob.

It also = DESPERATE MEASURES (which I've nothing against due to the predicament we find ourselves in) and obviously, with old greyhounds targeted & coming out of retirement to race, I hope the Vet is well prepared.

Safe racing all.

10 Races @ NON TAB TRACK - BUNDABERG.
Full Fields + Reserves for most races.

Shows people will race there. They will still travel to race their dogs.

Make it TAB & this will happen every time.
Within reach or both trainers from the South & those in the North.

RQ what are you waiting for??????
Its a no brainer!!!!



Kev Galloway
Australia
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02 Mar 2018 03:18


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Brian Terry wrote:

steven martin wrote:

rob wall wrote:

what are your talking about shortage 150 noms for sunday ipswich so 50 dogs sit home

150 noms for Sunday at Ipswich & all racing are over 288m = SMOKE & MIRRORS Rob.

It also = DESPERATE MEASURES (which I've nothing against due to the predicament we find ourselves in) and obviously, with old greyhounds targeted & coming out of retirement to race, I hope the Vet is well prepared.

Safe racing all.

10 Races @ NON TAB TRACK - BUNDABERG.
Full Fields + Reserves for most races.

Shows people will race there. They will still travel to race their dogs.

Make it TAB & this will happen every time.
Within reach or both trainers from the South & those in the North.

RQ what are you waiting for??????
Its a no brainer!!!!


Brian, Racing Qld won't do anything for the greyhound industry that will generate market share or benefit greyhound welfare,hence no TAB for Bundaberg or replacement one turn track,neither will benefit the Brisbane Greyhound Club.


Mark Donohue
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02 Mar 2018 06:23


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How many years have they been procrastinating? They need a rocket......

Its political so you know what you have to do. Campaign with the right Party

On a side issue, Beaudesert seems like a great place to build track with accessories, if the council approves everything. It could be a Centre of Excellence!

Bundaberg should have TAB status.




Steven Martin
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07 Mar 2018 08:18


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It doesn't matter what they say or what they do, our sport continues to grow.

Imagine how productive the Greyhounds could actually be in this State if we actually received the same respect & royalties as those that steal from our treasure chest.

WAGERING GROWTH FOR GREYHOUND CODE ---> EXTERNAL LINK


Michael Geraghty
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07 Mar 2018 08:38


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steven martin wrote:

It doesn't matter what they say or what they do, our sport continues to grow.

Imagine how productive the Greyhounds could actually be in this State if we actually received the same respect & royalties as those that steal from our treasure chest.

WAGERING GROWTH FOR GREYHOUND CODE ---> EXTERNAL LINK

Stevo, I hate to be negative but the sad fact is they don't have to say or do anything...the slide is unstoppable and those figures will not hold up with reduced meetings that are inevitable...as you know.

I keep saying it and it keeps getting blown in the wind, but unless the industry consolidates and decides to be a force it will wilt like a water lilly in the desert...



Steven Martin
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07 Mar 2018 09:09


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Michael Geraghty wrote:

and those figures will not hold up with reduced meetings that are inevitable...as you know.

You know that Michael.
I know that Michael.
Everybody in the greyhound industry knows that.
So why don't they make BUNDABERG TAB now to help prop up the short-fall?
Michael Geraghty wrote:

I keep saying it and it keeps getting blown in the wind, but unless the industry consolidates and decides to be a force it will wilt like a water lilly in the desert...

EXTERNAL LINK


Michael Geraghty
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07 Mar 2018 11:06


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"So why don't they make BUNDABERG TAB now to help prop up the short-fall?"

I understand RQ will hold talks with the committee of the club soon.
What I have heard is not good if the club cannot band together and work their problems out.
I hope they can.

Don't shoot the messenger...only what I've heard.



John Watts
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07 Mar 2018 17:40


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Michael Geraghty wrote:

"So why don't they make BUNDABERG TAB now to help prop up the short-fall?"

I understand RQ will hold talks with the committee of the club soon.
What I have heard is not good if the club cannot band together and work their problems out.
I hope they can.

Don't shoot the messenger...only what I've heard.

Michael that old acorn has been wielded on Bundaberg for years, we have had a plethora of visiting stewards for some time now and meeting always go without a hitch, it is simply a way to divert attention from the facts and that is Qld Racing continue to ask committees to try and progress clubs while THEY run the show. NO group of people anywhere can progress a business anywhere with a reduced ability to provide product. QLD racing have gutted race dates, number of races, prizemony etc and provide no vehicle for the clubs to underpin their core incomes for they payment of day to day expenses, then when coffers are drained blame the club/committees, it is a bit cute on their behalf. Claimed instability in clubs are a sideshow, not once has this threatened the running of a meeting, the only threats to meetings are the dumb decisions by QLD racing. This not only holds for Bundaberg but other clubs with slashed dates.



Brian Terry
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07 Mar 2018 19:53


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Michael Geraghty wrote:

"So why don't they make BUNDABERG TAB now to help prop up the short-fall?"

I understand RQ will hold talks with the committee of the club soon.
What I have heard is not good if the club cannot band together and work their problems out.
I hope they can.

Don't shoot the messenger...only what I've heard.

Whats the use of talking to a committee that have NFI of whats going on. A cake stall at a fete is about the capability and they try & run a company worth a couple of hundred thousand a year. Go figure.

But RQ have a lot to answer for in the decisions made over the past 4-5 years. Cut race dates reduce income earning capacity & raises costs while not racing. Reduced allocation to run race meetings. Altering prizemoney conditions regularly. Altering the appearance fee regularly. You could say Indian Giver like. How can a club prosper & hold its head above water in the conditions. It is being strangled to its death. In the years prior to this the club ran at a profit year after year. Albeit a small profit but was one of the only greyhound/race clubs in the state that did.
And what was the reward for effort form the committees over that period. CUT RACE DATES, CUT ALLOCATION, CUT PRIZEMONEY, CUT CUT CUT......
So you can see it is a wasted effort by those on committee with absolutely no support from RQ at any stage in the rein of DM.

While others are quick to blame certain people in particular for a demise, those casting current aspersions need to look at their own qualifications to sitting on the committee. One would suggest that some sort of business background would be required but I guess being the local ironing lady, that will do!

RQ have asked the questions.
RQ know have been told answers.
RQ still sit on their hands & do nothing.




Steven Martin
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07 Mar 2018 19:57


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Perfectly put John & Brian.
That's it in a nutshell.
The continued starvation of the club is the real issue & needs to be addressed. The members are simply pawns with no direction as it stands.
Blaming the club & its members is simply a smoke-screen when the playing field has been so unlevel.
Make the club TAB & then the club & its members can be judged fairly.


Brian Terry
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07 Mar 2018 20:00


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Michael Geraghty wrote:

"So why don't they make BUNDABERG TAB now to help prop up the short-fall?"

I understand RQ will hold talks with the committee of the club soon.
What I have heard is not good if the club cannot band together and work their problems out.
I hope they can.

Don't shoot the messenger...only what I've heard.

RQ need to hold an open meeting to all stakeholders.
QRIC can also attend to sort out some of the rubbish.
They also know whats going on but sit idle.

Some with a large investment in the area down to the one dog trainers are not getting asked anything.

Its getting left to negotiating with a few numpties.
Maybe its the preffered way.
But where is it getting them.




Michael Geraghty
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07 Mar 2018 20:05


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John Watts wrote:

Michael Geraghty wrote:

"So why don't they make BUNDABERG TAB now to help prop up the short-fall?"

I understand RQ will hold talks with the committee of the club soon.
What I have heard is not good if the club cannot band together and work their problems out.
I hope they can.

Don't shoot the messenger...only what I've heard.

Michael that old acorn has been wielded on Bundaberg for years, we have had a plethora of visiting stewards for some time now and meeting always go without a hitch, it is simply a way to divert attention from the facts and that is Qld Racing continue to ask committees to try and progress clubs while THEY run the show. NO group of people anywhere can progress a business anywhere with a reduced ability to provide product. QLD racing have gutted race dates, number of races, prizemony etc and provide no vehicle for the clubs to underpin their core incomes for they payment of day to day expenses, then when coffers are drained blame the club/committees, it is a bit cute on their behalf. Claimed instability in clubs are a sideshow, not once has this threatened the running of a meeting, the only threats to meetings are the dumb decisions by QLD racing. This not only holds for Bundaberg but other clubs with slashed dates.

You get no argument from me...I only said what I've heard and that wasn't too good.
We can only hope there is a solution that is agreed upon quickly.
We can't afford to lose any more tracks.


Kev Galloway
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08 Mar 2018 04:04


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Racing Qld have had $10,000,000 plus interest from the treasury since 2008 to replace our Parklands one turn track,they have outlayed $100,000,000 on thoroughbred infrastructure and almost zero on greyhound infrastructure and have NO intention of replacing the one turn track because of their race as one policy i.e.thoroughbreds only agenda all we will ever get is bullshit from the CEO in the Chase every 3 months.



Steven Martin
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10 Mar 2018 21:39


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Since I handed my Trainers licence in, I haven't kept up with all the new Grades that have recently been introduced, which in my opinion are grades designed to keep the industry afloat (nothing wrong with that), since the DO-GOODER Pcuked the industry with all their new "I No Best because I wear a white collar shirt & sit around a table sipping latte's" breeding rules.

Now I do know that "M5" stands for "Mature" so this grade is for certain dogs over a certain age etc etc. Easy.

But what does "P5" stand for?

Pcuking last hope before we reach the end of the rope GRADE?

Or does it have some kind of wacky GENDER meaning behind it & a "L5" grade will be introduced as well, shortly?



John Watts
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10 Mar 2018 22:56


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M5 masters
P5 pathways


Paul Haig
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10 Mar 2018 23:13


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Hi Steve,if your able to access replays from ippy lastnight race 1 had to be one for the record books a hand ful of dogs and their trainers wont have to worry about the grading of those dogs, the dogs were there just have a good time.Hope the stewards were doing their job. Winning margin a staggering 24lengths



Steven Martin
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That's an absolute classic Paul.

For those that have a "TAB" account, you can access that replay almost immediately after the race has been completed. This is a similar service that websites run by Victoria (Fasttracks) & NSW (The Dogs) deliver almost immediately as well because they care about their member/customer based audience & listen to their needs, thanks to technology.

If you don't have a TAB (or similar) account, then you'll just have to wait until Monday when RQ update all DVD's to meetings over the weekend....including the Ipswich Friday meeting which raced some 60 hours ago come Monday morning.

If you RACE further north of the "Gateway Bridge" (let's say Bundaberg), the uploading service of DVD's to race meetings are usually delivered by Thursday (5 days after) or the following week when somebody remembers.

T.A.B. account holders, please sign-in & select "Full Video" at your pleasure. Race 1 Ipswich ---> EXTERNAL LINK
P.S...Cheers John.




John Watts
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11 Mar 2018 00:53


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paul haig wrote:

Hi Steve,if your able to access replays from ippy lastnight race 1 had to be one for the record books a hand ful of dogs and their trainers wont have to worry about the grading of those dogs, the dogs were there just have a good time.Hope the stewards were doing their job. Winning margin a staggering 24lengths

Replay is up on the RQ site, deadset raffle that race, while they seemed to be chasing didnt take much to divert the attention of some of them.


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