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Temlee's race record

Tom Flanagan
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In an effort to put a bit more history on the GD site following the discussion about Australia's best racer, I have been going through the archives putting together Temlee's race record from old newspapers.

Not finished yet but now there are 24 of his races on the database, and a couple more are detailed in the comments section of his win on 29 April 1974 (handicap races that the race database can't deal with in the usual format - including one that may have bettered his own Olympic Park track record if it had been run from the regular 511m boxes). CLICK HERE

Probably the most notable thing about his race record is his starting prices. The longest price I have found is 7/4 in the final of the National Derby from box 6, following what was regarded by the Sydney media as an ordinary effort to win his semi final after a brilliant quarter final win.

Here is a newspaper article from the time, following Temlee's second start in Sydney.

Temlee in a class of his own.
by Ross Dunstan (Sydney Morning Herald July 2 1974)

Victorian greyhound Temlee demoralised local trainers when he ran near record time in a quarter final of the National Derby at Wentworth Park last night.
Temlee beat Sydney champion Early Copy by eight lengths in a brilliant time of 30.78s - just 0.08 outside Benny McGrath's track record.
Temlee was so superior that his time was almost half a second faster than the second fastest qualifier. This position was shared by Tientsin Tosca and Zell's Royce, who both ran 31.24s for the 530m. Other fast qualifiers were Roomatic (31.25) Duel Fair (31.26) Count Barambah (31.27) and Steelflex (31.30). ...
Temlee, a brindle dog by Tivoli Chief from Temora Lee, has a reputation even greater than the past Victorian champions, New Mariner and Half Your Luck, who took out the quinella in last year's National Sprint Championship.
Temlee appeared to be feeling his way on the strange track when he clocked 31.16 in last Friday night's heats. Last night he quickly headed Early Copy and Gallant Milton at the start and won in great style.


Jimmy Corbo
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11 Feb 2010 08:13


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Sensational Tom, it's a great way to remember the champs of yesteryear and gives us younger people who never saw these great dogs a better understanding and admiration of their feats.

I recently added 20 odd races for Black Top which I found in an old Recorder. Would be great to upload all the races for Chief Havoc, Zoom Top, National Lass etc....


Jeff Holland
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11 Feb 2010 10:03


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Thats great tom, thanks for the effort.

cheers, jeff



Sheryl Clark
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Tom, are there any videos,or film that we now can look at of Temlee;s races?


Ian Rose
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I have a 16x12 photo of the legend sitting in front of me on the wall.


John Hutchison
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Tom,

Thanks for your efforts to record some of Temlee's great wins. He was an absolute superstar on the track, which is why we have honoured him with his race on Saturday at the Meadows.

John


Geoff Collins
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Tom Flanagan wrote:

Not finished yet but now there are 24 of his races on the database, and a couple more are detailed in the comments section of his win on 29 April 1974 (handicap races that the race database can't deal with in the usual format - including one that may have bettered his own Olympic Park track record if it had been run from the regular 511m boxes). CLICK HERE

Tom .. he's the BEST greyhound I've ever seen .. Ive got his complete race record of 37 starts from an old publication .. his fast handicap run was on the 8th April where he ran 29.08 off 10 metres, which would equate to around 29.70 .. 3 spots outside his 29.67 track record

Also he started 11/4 when he ran 2nd at Harold Park at his next start after the National Derby final and 7//2 when 6th at Sale in his 7th ever race star

I'm pushed for time at the moment but if you send me your fax number I'll fax you a copy of his form



Ricky Hassall
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Temlee was whelped March 1972 by top New South Wales galloper Tivoli Chief (Tivoli Dreamer x Heather's Ile) from the lightly raced New South Wales bitch Temora Lee (Mister Moss x Venetian Babe). Tivoli Chief was an unproven sire at that stage standing at Tony Marino's Diamond Creek property in Victoria . He was later to become one of Australia 's leading sires of the 70's. Temora Lee was bred by the country's leading breeder at the time New South Wales Tony Duke. Duke ran a large scale breeding and selling property at Lower Portland . On a trip to Duke's in search of a well bred brood bitch Sale greyhound racing identity Tom Davidson bought Temora Lee for $800, but due to injury she never raced in Victoria.

Not long after the purchase Davidson passed away but prior to his death he requested his greyhounds be humanely put down. Fortunately family members could not bring themselves to have this done and gave Temora Lee to friend and former Sale club President Barry Bailey. He was to choose Tivoli Chief as the sire and although the litter was registered in the name of Mary Davidson, Bailey paid the stud fee and whelped down the litter.

When the litter was eight weeks of age Bailey's friend Frank Cray suggested to Maffra Hotelier Ray Hocken he buy a pup. "I went down to Bailey's at Sale to have a look at the litter. Frank Cray had trained a couple of dogs for me but we hadn't had much luck. I don't know why I picked Temlee there was no reason you know what pups are like they all looked the same. He was just one of the brindle dogs I liked." Hocken paid $135 for the brindle pup that was later to race as Temlee. The litter consisted of eight pup's four dogs and four bitches.

They all raced with different degrees of success with some of the bitches enjoying enormous results when it came their turn in the breeding barn. The other dogs in the litter raced as Garfield Luck, Temtiv and Tivoli 's Double. While the bitches raced as Cray's Dream, Rattlin Rosie, Temora Blue and Viola Lee.
Viola Lee produced no less than three Group 1 winners.....TEGIMI....BIG PINCH....and CITIZEN BAND.
REARING

Frank Cray reared the young pup at his Sale property I asked Hocken about his set up. "Frank had a couple of runs for pups he always had youngsters there coming along. He'd rear them then break them in ready to race. I don't think he did anything special just reared in the normal way with plenty of room to run around.

Early on Temlee became very sick, and the vet told us he had a bad bout of hepatitis and distemper. Frank did a great job to help the pup to recover. He had him inside for weeks treating him with tablets and stuff. If it wasn't for that intensive care he could have been lost. Barry Bailey offered me a replacement when the pup was sick but I decided to stick with my original pick and as it turned out, lucky I did."

BREAKING IN

I inquired of Hocken if Temlee showed any of what was to come at breaking in. "Yes we knew he was going to be very good. Frank broke him in and he was a natural. He just did every thing right straight away. He was a real hard chaser as a pup you could see all he wanted to do was race. He trialled just outside the Sale track record before his first start so he was always going to be a handy dog. We never thought he would reach the heights he did. He certainly gave the family a great deal of pleasure.

I raced a few after him but never enjoyed much more success. It didn't really matter that much after you had been lucky enough to race a dog like Temlee."

THE NAME

"We didn't think to hard about his name. We just left out the o. r. a. of his mother's name and made it one word. As it turned out it seemed to suit him and when you think how many times it's been referred to over the years it's stood the test of time okay. It was lucky we didn't call him something that was ordinary." Hocken said. Temlee's kennel name was simply "Tiger" I bet there's been plenty of brindles called "Tiger" over the years.

THE OFFERS

As always I asked how many offers were made for the champion. "We had a few throughout his career particularly early on but he was never for sale. I don't think we gave them a second thought. You don't race dogs like Temlee every day of the week.

I remember there was a very big offer from a Sydney Syndicate after his racing days were over to stand him at stud but again we didn't consider it. But they had assumed correctly he was going to make his mark at stud.

THE INJURIES

Temlee raced virtually injury free for the fifteen months he spent on the racetrack. His career was cut short after 37 starts when on the 25 th of November 1974 at Olympic Park. The brindle flying machine cracked a bone in his left hind leg. It was fitting that if his career had to end it was at the track he had made his own.

Over the 33 years that greyhound racing was conducted at Olympic Park. Temlee would rate as one of the best if not the best to have raced there.

THE BIGGEST THRILLS AND BEST PERFORMANCES

I questioned Hocken as to his fondest memories of the champ. "No doubt I think the biggest thrill we got was when he set the record at Olympic Park. It was such an outstanding run and to record that time was very special. Winning the National Sprint Title was also a thrill. Plus those trophy races we also got a big kick out of. The whole family was involved when we raced him and we enjoyed every minute of it. Like wise all of my customers at the Hotel were wrapped up in the racing side of Temlee. It was very special to have raced a dog as well acknowledged as what Temlee has been over the years and still is today."

THE RACE CAREER

Temlee raced for the first time at his home track of Sale . On the 11th August 1973 at 17 months, from box five he won by six lengths in a B.O.N. 29.20 for the 484 metres. It was only 2/100ths outside the record. A record he equalled at his fourth start.

The champion raced 37 times for 25 wins and three placing's. He won a total of $26,000 in prizemoney.

Temlee was judged the 1974 Victorian Greyhound of the Year. The prize was a good one in those days a brand new car.

Temlee only raced for 15 months but his short career contained many highlights. His favourite track was Olympic Park. He won 13 of his 19 starts there. His best performance being his track record run of 29.67 on the 25 th of March 1974 in the Autumn Trophy final. Temlee's major racetrack win was in the final of the National Sprint Championship. In an outstanding performance from box four he ran a brilliant 29.71. The field included Bristol Sue, Thunders Pride and Coolamaroo.

His other major highlights included the 1974 Maturity Stake final when he beat Sylvan Prince and Shanghai Star. He also won the Lord Mayor's Trophy in 30.25, beating Kiwk Metal. He was a finalist in the 1974 NSW Derby and the 74 Melbourne Cup. Besides wins at Sale and Olympic the champ won at Wentworth Park , Sandown and Traralgon.

Temlee retired at 34 months old after being injured when finishing 6th behind Zulu Moss in November 1974.

AT STUD

Temlee stood his entire stud career at the Diamond Creek property of Tony Marino's the home of his sire. The champion's introductory fee in 1975 was $300. This was to rise to an Australian record $1000 such was the success and demand of the brindle flyer.

National Coursing Association employee at the time Andrew Bence told me he was a phenomenon. "We never ceased to be amazed at the quality of bitch he served. There is no doubt every top quality brood bitch in the country either went to him or tried to book in to him. His records will probably never be broken, he certainly kept us busy at the office in those days."

Temlee sired 735 litters and had 4410 greyhounds named with the champ as their sire. His progeny won over 1800 city races around Australia with prizemoney totalling around $500,000. Temlee was the champion Victorian sire from 1978-1982 also winning titles in Queensland and was runner up in N.S.W. His most successful year in Victoria was 1979 when he sired 220 city winners, that record stood until 1999 when broken by Head Honcho. Temlee sired the winners of virtually every feature event on the Australian greyhound racing calendar.

His progeny at one stage held 28 track records and he had 35 of his sons registered for stud duties around Australia . The champion's list of top class city gallopers is too numerous to list. Listed below I have named a few of his most outstanding gallopers. Satan's Legend, Tempix, Tangaloa, Chief Dingaan, Roy Trease, World Acclaim, Little Blade, Winifred Bale, Flat Flyer, Monica's Mist, Zimbabwe and Relle Louise.

Temlee passed away on the 18th November 1984 after suffering a stroke. In a fitting tribute to his champion sire Tony Marino retired from the sport the day Temlee died. Marino was so moved by the deeds of Temlee as a stud sire he found no reason to carry on in the business. Marino stating no dog he could stand in the future could come close to emulating the deeds of his mighty stud dog. At 85 years of age and back involved in greyhound racing Marino still talks with great passion of what Temlee achieved whilst he stood at his famous Diamond Creek property.

As I stated in the introduction there are few greyhounds that are remembered in such reverent terms as Temlee. His home club at Sale has immortalised the "legend" with memorabilia on display in the very special Temlee Bar.

When we gathered at Olympic Park for the last time in February 1997, one topic of conversation I can recall with fond memories was discussion surrounding the racing deeds of the mighty Temlee. It was hard to recall a greyhound that had raced better at the near city circuit. A worthy inductee to the AGRA Hall of Fame the mighty Temlee with be honoured at the AGRA Awards night hosted by the M.G.R.A at the Meadows in March 2007.

Credits....
Neil Brown originally did the above interview used in this tribute with owner Ray Hocken in February 1996. Ray passed away in 2001 and his wife.

Bev has given Neil Brown permission to publish the above as it was told to him at that time.


Steve Harvey
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The greatest K9 of all time in my opinion !



Michael Bowerman
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just what i needed a purk up thanks ricki great artical, just what greyhound racing needs right now good stories, THE DREAM ALIVE,in me


Greg Brooker
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Jimmy Corbo wrote:

Sensational Tom, it's a great way to remember the champs of yesteryear and gives us younger people who never saw these great dogs a better understanding and admiration of their feats.

I recently added 20 odd races for Black Top which I found in an old Recorder. Would be great to upload all the races for Chief Havoc, Zoom Top, National Lass etc....


And Silver Chief.



Michael Murphy
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Pause before we call the greatest, only those who saw their greatest and the other greats can have a decent punt. Still we salute them all.
Mugs.




Howard Moshinsky
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EXTERNAL LINK



Michael Bowerman
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howard moshinsky wrote:

EXTERNAL LINK

neil brown top interview there, good to listern to thanks howard


Steve Bennie
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steve harvey wrote:

The greatest K9 of all time in my opinion !

100 %


Terry Jordan
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STEVE BENNIE wrote:

steve harvey wrote:

The greatest K9 of all time in my opinion !

100 %


I was lucky enough Steve to have seen the likes of Temlee, Lizrene, Gold Grotto, Satans Legend, etc My favourite Jacksonville only because I won a motza on him one night! lol

Yep Temlee was special!

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