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Sheryl Clark Australia (Verified User) Posts 777 Dogs 16 / Races 1 25 Feb 2010 06:34
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This new track at logan will be good for qld greyhound racing,with 2 circle tracks,and 1 straight track.It will be the centre for racing in brisbane,and will bring old and new owners and trainers,back into the sport. cant wait for it to open.
Conrad Buhner Australia (Verified User) Posts 378 Dogs 13 / Races 3 25 Feb 2010 21:58
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I know what you are saying Sandro. To get back on the freeway is not to much of a problem, but there is two different point to get on the freeway. 1) To go to brisbane you have to entry via sports drive. I think you can do a uturn at the compton rd / Kingston rd lights.If not you just have to drive a little further on compton rd at the Ewing rd light and turn around there. But it would be easier to turn right onto kingston rd and go via ferguson st.
2) To go to the gold coast can be done the same way as Brisbane but entry is at the end on logan rd at springwood. Same way as you get there.
The other thing to concider is that a lot of trainers in the area come from west Like Gatton and toowoomba and ipswich and for them they just have to go straight ahead on compton rd. 2)
Dan Hollywood Australia (Verified User) Posts 6026 Dogs 28 / Races 32 26 Feb 2010 20:14
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malcolm mccabe wrote:
This new track at logan will be good for qld greyhound racing,with 2 circle tracks,and 1 straight track.It will be the centre for racing in brisbane,and will bring old and new owners and trainers,back into the sport. cant wait for it to open.
Lets hope so Mal, but i do feel that more loss's will occur from the northside, we'll have to wait and see. I also feel it would be better for the clubs to stand alone as we know control bodies change. I am not sure if the Brisbane club members have voted to relocate to Logan, as after the sale of the Gabba land their own complex could soon be reality. The opportunity facing GQL, with this injection of government funds and hopefully a better deal with the 3 code merger should see the industry here in Qld heading in the right direction. I suppose we will just have to wait and see on that one also.
Sue Burley Australia (Verified User) Posts 5559 Dogs 10310 / Races 14781 26 Feb 2010 21:28
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Dan the Brisbane Club recently had a valuation done on the land at the Gabba and were quoted 7-8 million I think and the members voted to hold off selling until the real estate climate improves. 7-8 million would not cover the cost of land and construction of a new complex suitable to conduct Group racing etc.
The club members would not have a vote on whether or not to move to Logan as the racing licences will be issued for racing at Logan. I believe the Brisbane club is over the moon with the new plans for Cronulla Park and can't wait to move there and why wouldn't they be?
Rob Wall Australia (Verified User) Posts 151 Dogs 6 / Races 0 26 Feb 2010 21:30
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yes dan your right about the northside trainers no track at all on this side of town every time you want to trial or race, the gateway toll will be $5.00 there and 5.00 back plus petrol, owners won,t be able to afford this on there bill, to trial one dog it will cost me 10 for gateway 20 for petrol 11 for trial i live close at hendra what about the ones at mango hill , caloundra, etc
Broc Wright Australia (Verified User) Posts 1444 Dogs 7 / Races 3 26 Feb 2010 22:21
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rob wall wrote:
yes dan your right about the northside trainers no track at all on this side of town every time you want to trial or race, the gateway toll will be $5.00 there and 5.00 back plus petrol, owners won,t be able to afford this on there bill, to trial one dog it will cost me 10 for gateway 20 for petrol 11 for trial i live close at hendra what about the ones at mango hill , caloundra, etc
Is it really any different to travelling to the old Gold Coast track?
Ah, helllo...yes it is....we had a choice back then, we cld race at either
Stick a couple of tolls in the way of the majority of trainers on the southside and see what they think Broc
Sue Burley Australia (Verified User) Posts 5559 Dogs 10310 / Races 14781 26 Feb 2010 22:35
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A lot different Broc, it will be much closer for them, in fact just over 100km for the round trip closer lol.
Sue Burley Australia (Verified User) Posts 5559 Dogs 10310 / Races 14781 26 Feb 2010 22:42
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Brendon Stevens wrote:
Ah, helllo...yes it is....we had a choice back then, we cld race at either
Stick a couple of tolls in the way of the majority of trainers on the southside and see what they think Broc
Brendon when trainers from the Southside travel to Albion Park over the Gateway Bridge, they pay a toll, when they travel to Ipswich they pay a couple of tolls, when they used to race at Lawnton on the northside or Toowoomba, they paid tolls.
It seems there are tolls to be paid in every State now no matter which direction you are travelling from or to.
In Victoria when Olympic Park was closed and The Meadows opened, trainers on the southside (Cranbourne and beyond) had much further to travel and yes they have to pay tolls which they did not have to when they travelled to Olympic Park. It's just the way of the world now and we all have to embrace it.
Dan Hollywood Australia (Verified User) Posts 6026 Dogs 28 / Races 32 26 Feb 2010 23:09
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There are plenty of reasons to have a complex on the northside, alienating participants there is the wrong move. You might say this new complex will generate more participation, but so will a northside complex. A mate told me through a source at the head office that there will never be a track on the northside, this is seriously the wrong approach for the future of greyhound racing.
Rob Wall Australia (Verified User) Posts 151 Dogs 6 / Races 0 27 Feb 2010 02:11
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there should be one track on the north side and one track on the south side but the people that started logan are on the southside so they are right
Sue Burley Australia (Verified User) Posts 5559 Dogs 10310 / Races 14781 27 Feb 2010 02:27
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But then those in the Ipswich area believe the track should be there and those on the Gold Coast believe the track should be there.
I guess you could say the idea of the Logan track started on the southside but that was because the Logan council offered land there. Is there a free 10 hectares available 20k's north of Brisbane?
Rob Wall Australia (Verified User) Posts 151 Dogs 6 / Races 0 27 Feb 2010 02:48
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may be someone should have asked the council on the north like use did but everyone on the south side would blow up the ipswich people would rather toowoomba open
Dan Hollywood Australia (Verified User) Posts 6026 Dogs 28 / Races 32 27 Feb 2010 03:25
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Securing land is not the problem Sue.
Broc Wright Australia (Verified User) Posts 1444 Dogs 7 / Races 3 27 Feb 2010 19:52
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FFS why don't we put a track at the back step of every trainers house.
We should have a track up here at Yandina and one at Caloundra too because the trainers there will have to go too far to trial.
If you think your dog is capable of winning a dollar it is worth the trouble, if not then why keep the bloody thing and whinge about paying to trial it.
I know I will be travelling to the NEW Logan complex to watch mine race and can't wait.
Dan Hollywood Australia (Verified User) Posts 6026 Dogs 28 / Races 32 27 Feb 2010 23:25
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Broc, you can bet this new merger will treat the hounds as a business, unlike the past where direction has been limited and the future was far from anyones thoughts. As with Logan, people have no choice if you want to race a dog or go and watch one run, however expansion to the north would see them come also. We have a good product and should take it to the people rather than cram it in one corner hidden away. FFS mate, a lot of participants are involved and love their hounds, why make things more difficult for them. The negative response that there will never be a track to the north of Brisbane lacks proffesionalism on their behalf.
ps. and on opening night you best buy me a beer
Broc Wright Australia (Verified User) Posts 1444 Dogs 7 / Races 3 28 Feb 2010 00:00
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I would love to see a track at Caboolture or somewhere a bit closer than Logan but I am just happy we are getting a new facility at all. Most times I go and watch my dogs race by myself as after taking friends along to Albion Park they hardly ever put their hand up to go again. Hopefully this new complex will change that and a night at the dogs with a good meal and some atmosphere will become reality. How good is it going to be having a one turn track again!!
Conrad Buhner Australia (Verified User) Posts 378 Dogs 13 / Races 3 28 Feb 2010 23:20
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broc wright wrote:
I would love to see a track at Caboolture or somewhere a bit closer than Logan but I am just happy we are getting a new facility at all. Most times I go and watch my dogs race by myself as after taking friends along to Albion Park they hardly ever put their hand up to go again. Hopefully this new complex will change that and a night at the dogs with a good meal and some atmosphere will become reality. How good is it going to be having a one turn track again!!
Well said Broc! I know there is quite a few trainers on the northside wanting a track on the northern parts of brisbane, and i agree. BUT, at this moment we need something central to all and Logan is the best position for a new complex.
If a track was positioned at Cabooture as an example, It would take the trainers from gatton 2hrs and 20mins to get there and trainers from the tweed heads area 2hrs and 11 mins and trainers on the northside of brisbane within 30 mins.
The logan track position is central with trainers from gatton taking 1hr 20mins to drive there and trainers from tweed driving 1hr and 15mins and Trainers from caboolture taking 1hr and 10 mins. This Option is a lot fairer than a northside track you would have to admit. The people on the northside are equal in travel time and toll charges to the trainers out in the western suburbs. So complaining that it is not at your doorstep is been a bit selfish and looking at the industry at a whole would be a better approach.
A first class racing complex is about to be built in a central location and people are complaining? Snap out of it! Take a positive and supportive approach to the project and look forward to the positive future for greyhound racing in QLD.
I also, like Broc have taken friends to albion park and ipswich and they have hardly ever put there hand up to go again. This complex looks like it will pull the crowds in with the right restaurant and bar facilities.
Lets make this project a success by everyone's support and look forward to the future of Greyhound racing in Queensland.
Getting behind Logan and supporting it in years to come by all will bring success. And that success in the future will hopefully build additional tracks in the area like Northside and Gold Coast.
Dan Hollywood Australia (Verified User) Posts 6026 Dogs 28 / Races 32 01 Mar 2010 02:00
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You must be one slow driver Con, from Woodford to Gatton it takes me 1 1/2 hours, and i dont speed. Have done the trip many, many times and Cabooture, well 15 minutes to the east of Woodford it lays. Logan is the best option because the land came for zilch and complaints came about due to zero sourcing of other options, it is Logan or nothing. Logan will get the support, dont you worry about that, all the halfwits banned from the local clubs and pubs will make sure of that. The future at Logan looks bright but lets hope this new control body looks at the future of the industry as a whole.
Conrad Buhner Australia (Verified User) Posts 378 Dogs 13 / Races 3 01 Mar 2010 03:27
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I have never driven from Gatton to caboolture before but when i put the details into Google Maps it tells me it is 2hrs and 19mins via the Daguilar Hwy & Gatton Rd (152klms) or 2hrs and 21mins via the Gateway Mwy and Warrego Hwy (161klms. Google maps is quite accurate. It says that Woodford to Gatton is 1hr and 52min(128klms) and Woodford to Caboolture is 28mins (24.7klm) add the two up and it is a total of 2hrs and 20mins and 152.7klms. Dan to cover 128klms in 1 1/2 hrs and do the speedlimit seems a bit optimistic. Once you allow for the 60 zones, 80zones, Traffic lights, tolls, roundabouts etc. Dan you are speeding, or your speedo needs to be looked at. LOL
Dan, you have to admit, the Track is more central than Northeren suburbs and when you take in concideration for the trainers who travel from lismore and casino it is in a good position compared to somewhere like Caboolture.
Dan, i have mentioned before with the population of brisbane compared to melbourne, we should have 4-5 Tab track in the metro area and 1 Tab track up north. Having a track located in say Caboolture, albion, ipswich, logan and gold coast for the metro area and townsville up north. To have this many tracks eventually, we must have a strong industry like Greyhounds Victoria.
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