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Victorian Breakers
Richard Gray Australia (Verified User) Posts 2231 Dogs 11 / Races 9 22 Jul 2011 09:02
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Any thoughts on Vic based breakers. I know everyone seems to have a favorite, the care factor for the dog is probably a major factor as well of course getting broken properly. Or just as easy to spend the time and do breaking yourself? Cheers, Rich.
Nick Graham Australia (Verified User) Posts 1099 Dogs 3 / Races 0 22 Jul 2011 09:35
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Richard,
Without a doubt the best breaker is yourself, thats if you have the time to do it slowly at the dogs pace and not rush it through
Ive seen too many dogs come back from breakers that just shouldnt of been put around with the injuries they have with a report that the dog needs to improve panels to make it... Most of the time you dont have a clue if the dog has any ability what so ever and by the time you fix the dog up your none the wiser
Breaking it yourself means you can do it at the dogs pace, there is no rush to get it done before next months batch arrives. You can get it checked after each run, you can feed it how you would feed a race dog and you can spend the time correcting certain things that need to be fixed. 8 week is the time frame id aim for
Breaking your own dog also gives you a better reflection of the dogs ability then a breakers report imo. You dont race a dog that is sore, so why on earth would you educate a pup that is sore? Im of the opinion that 4 weeks is not enough to break in a dog correctly
I no people dont really care what time a dog breaks in long as its doing everything right, but doing it yourself with a sound dog over those extra few weeks will tell you alot more about the dog ability thats for sure
Michael Barry Australia (Verified User) Posts 7405 Dogs 26 / Races 9 22 Jul 2011 10:01
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nick I no people dont really care what time a dog breaks in long as its doing everything right, but doing it yourself with a sound dog over those extra few weeks will tell you alot more about the dog ability thats for sure
a lot of breeders use breakin times there is a few for sale on here who a very good breeder thinks arnt worth his while . know doubt this guy knows his stuff ,
and after a few disasters my self i now know breakin times are everything ,
Richard Gray Australia (Verified User) Posts 2231 Dogs 11 / Races 9 22 Jul 2011 11:46
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Nick. Everything you stated was what I had a gut feeling for. I have reared these pups for so long and invested so much. I DO have the time to do it on my own but am a little apprehensive as per the information you see on breakers times..., "my dog broke at this time or that time" So many people seem fixated on break in times? and Im not sure why. These times don't reflect what happens on a race track with a full field. On top of that is the thousands spent to get a pup to that stage to rely on someone's opinion or a stopwatch?
Richard Gray Australia (Verified User) Posts 2231 Dogs 11 / Races 9 22 Jul 2011 11:50
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Michael, If I read your post correctly, you are saying dogs are for sale that have a so & so break in time? (correct me if i"m wrong please) why would anyone advertise a dog for sale that has "broken in" with a good time on a particular track? Wouldn't that be a dog you would keep?
Tom Welsh Australia (Verified User) Posts 2112 Dogs 67 / Races 11 23 Jul 2011 08:11
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So has anyone got thoughts on any 'ok' breakers in Victoria? I cant break in my own pups - I rely on you guys in the industry to do that and pay accordingly.
I'd really appreciate some names of people who are good - feel free not to advise bad ones if you feel it places you in a bad position to name them.
Cheers
Matt Marshall Australia (Verified User) Posts 484 Dogs 5 / Races 0 23 Jul 2011 08:42
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wells in nagambie
Donna Sadler Australia (Verified User) Posts 1730 Dogs 59 / Races 6 23 Jul 2011 09:25
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For what it is worth, Jenny and Len Cotterill have been doing my pups over the last eight months or so. They have probaly done twenty plus for me now and I really couldn't ask for anything more - ALL are chasing and have come back in excellent condition, bright and happy. The ones that have had spells and are now in pre training are all going well.
Richard Gray Australia (Verified User) Posts 2231 Dogs 11 / Races 9 23 Jul 2011 10:02
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Where are they based Donna?
Carole Brown Australia (Verified User) Posts 32355 Dogs 185 / Races 2 23 Jul 2011 13:11
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Pearcedale area, Richard.
David Stojanov Australia (Verified User) Posts 195 Dogs 11 / Races 1 13 Sep 2017 03:41
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hi has anyone had dogs breakin at colac in vic its a private track so im told and dose anyone know what a group dog breakin go thanks in advance
John Charles Caulfield Australia (Verified User) Posts 396 Dogs 2 / Races 0 14 Sep 2017 23:20
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rod Millington in Mildura,long way to go but it is well worth it.
Hi Steve bull at snake valley as far as I am concerned best bar none in Vic has broken mine in for the last 5 years never been wrong on the judgment of the dog ever . He also broke in my last 2 dogs Natural Rhythm and her sister Eminence Hope this helps
Andrew Varasdi Australia (Verified User) Posts 1287 Dogs 2 / Races 11 26 Nov 2019 06:26
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So we talk about litters doing well, and sires representation in races and so on.
Well worth noting Grant Fullerton, a breaker I hold in the highest regard, broke in HOOKED ON SCOTCH, FLYNN, GET IT GYZMO and WHISKEY RIOT.
Great endorsement.
Jamie Quinlivian Australia (Verified User) Posts 8727 Dogs 10 / Races 0 26 Nov 2019 07:01
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andrew varasdi wrote:
So we talk about litters doing well, and sires representation in races and so on.
Well worth noting Grant Fullerton, a breaker I hold in the highest regard, broke in HOOKED ON SCOTCH, FLYNN, GET IT GYZMO and WHISKEY RIOT.
Great endorsement.
That is fantastic information Andrew, thanks.
Rob Horne Australia (Verified User) Posts 522 Dogs 1 / Races 3 26 Nov 2019 07:40
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Ive always been told McNamara is the bench mark down there.
Andrew Varasdi Australia (Verified User) Posts 1287 Dogs 2 / Races 11 26 Nov 2019 08:29
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Word on the street is a few SYDNEY trainers now sending their much loved down the highway. Only Rumours of course. Best thing is based on experience you get a fair guide. Thats all we can ask.
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