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Anthony McVicker Australia (Verified User) Posts 1438 Dogs 24 / Races 126 14 Jun 2013 11:06
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and could be invites and held at wenty as a feature
Michael Eberand Australia (Verified User) Posts 845 Dogs 3 / Races 0 14 Jun 2013 11:10
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Be a Great betting race
Anthony Jeffress Australia (Verified User) Posts 3669 Dogs 54 / Races 10 14 Jun 2013 11:38
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Michael Eberand wrote:
I would like to see a Stayers Shootout.
Box 1 Irma Bale
Box 3 Destini Fireball
Box 5 ?
Box 7 Bell Haven
My money on the 7 !!
Guys,
The Superstayers is coming up next week up here in Qld :-)
Michael Eberand Australia (Verified User) Posts 845 Dogs 3 / Races 0 14 Jun 2013 11:40
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How does that work Anthony?
Anthony Jeffress Australia (Verified User) Posts 3669 Dogs 54 / Races 10 14 Jun 2013 11:48
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4 dog invitational event, on next Thursday night. $15k to the winner.
It's been run for a few years now, and is usually a great spectacle as a follow up to the Group 1 Gold Cup staying feature each year.
Michael Eberand Australia (Verified User) Posts 845 Dogs 3 / Races 0 14 Jun 2013 11:49
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How goods that ! I hope destini and bellhaven go round in it- who would be your runners?
Anthony Jeffress Australia (Verified User) Posts 3669 Dogs 54 / Races 10 14 Jun 2013 11:51
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Michael Eberand wrote:
How goods that ! I hope destini and bellhaven go round in it
If Bell Haven lines up I reckon the small field size condition is likely to suit her racing style more than her likely competitors.
She's a terrific 'advertisement' for her sire Head Bound.
We have still got some very, very good stayers around, despite Miata's recent retirement. Four x Group 1 victories to Destini Fireball sure is proof of that ... and when you consider Bell Haven has just missed in the last 2 big staying features, it augers well for some exciting staying contests in the months ahead.
Sean O'Donnell Australia (Verified User) Posts 4262 Dogs 64 / Races 54 02 Oct 2013 23:54
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Does anyone know how to get in contact with Emilio Rinaldi.
Sean O'Donnell Australia (Verified User) Posts 4262 Dogs 64 / Races 54 04 Oct 2013 16:39
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Surely someone would have contact details. I'm curious as to when he will be retired to stud and if natural etc is to be offered. I have a specific bitch to breed stayer to stayer.
Johnathon Campbell Australia (Verified User) Posts 4635 Dogs 5 / Races 2 04 Oct 2013 23:03
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Sean O'Donnell wrote:
Surely someone would have contact details. I'm curious as to when he will be retired to stud and if natural etc is to be offered. I have a specific bitch to breed stayer to stayer.
Emilio won't have his number listed Sean, I'll get a message to him for you but don't be offended if you don't hear anything back.
James Saunders Australia (Verified User) Posts 4644 Dogs 3 / Races 3 04 Oct 2013 23:27
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always dangerous trying to breed a stayer sean.My main concern for his stud prospects would be his average times over 500m.But he definetly would deserve a crack at stud as do any dog that has shown his attributes.
Sean O'Donnell Australia (Verified User) Posts 4262 Dogs 64 / Races 54 04 Oct 2013 23:29
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Johnathon campbell wrote:
Sean O'Donnell wrote:
Surely someone would have contact details. I'm curious as to when he will be retired to stud and if natural etc is to be offered. I have a specific bitch to breed stayer to stayer.
Emilio won't have his number listed Sean, I'll get a message to him for you but don't be offended if you don't hear anything back.
If you could Johnathan pass on my number 0423705623 and if he calls he calls I would never be offended.
Johnathon Campbell Australia (Verified User) Posts 4635 Dogs 5 / Races 2 05 Oct 2013 00:17
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Will do Sean
Glenn Hatton Australia (Verified User) Posts 4852 Dogs 92 / Races 98 05 Oct 2013 00:36
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All the great stayers had good speed over the sprints as well.
I'd rather use General Destini than Destini Fireball
James Saunders Australia (Verified User) Posts 4644 Dogs 3 / Races 3 05 Oct 2013 00:39
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Another good sign for his stud prospects was the fact the whole litter was good.Someone will use him when he retires and it will definetly interesting too see what he throws.
Sean O'Donnell Australia (Verified User) Posts 4262 Dogs 64 / Races 54 05 Oct 2013 01:04
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glenn hatton wrote:
All the great stayers had good speed over the sprints as well.
I'd rather use General Destini than Destini Fireball
On a 500m bitch I would probably use general destini, but for a specific staying bitch I wish to use a quicker bigger hard chasing stayer and breed strength to strength as they both had a bit of pace as well.
Johnathon Campbell Australia (Verified User) Posts 4635 Dogs 5 / Races 2 05 Oct 2013 02:15
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Sean I read a article and a gentleman was interviewed about dogs he's breed and raced and I remember him saying that he breed his best staying bitch to a staying sire and got one of the fastest sprinters he ever had :)
Hellen Jackson Australia (Verified User) Posts 3217 Dogs 6 / Races 26 05 Oct 2013 02:27
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Have no doubts there would be a chance for a good pup or two from Destini
Sean O'Donnell Australia (Verified User) Posts 4262 Dogs 64 / Races 54 05 Oct 2013 05:57
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james saunders wrote:
always dangerous trying to breed a stayer sean.My main concern for his stud prospects would be his average times over 500m.But he definetly would deserve a crack at stud as do any dog that has shown his attributes.
James,
it is a defined breeding method to breed strengths to stregnths where good stayers to better stayers can essentially work very well. my interest in fireball is because of his sire and his dams sire and dam line, and the fact that he could still go 29.39 over the shorts shows he had reasonable pace and his times were not to shabby over the distance.
I see it at not any different to putting a really good 500 meter dog to a 500-600 bitch in the end goal of creating a better 500mtr dog in mind (yes some time you end up with 400 meter dogs as well).
I think its different when you put a stayer over a sprinter you can possibly slow the breed down I guess, but of stayers that I have in mind symmetry, destini fireball, dashing corsair and bobby boucheau.
out of all of those they all have nice element's but I particularly like fireballs breeding.
James Saunders Australia (Verified User) Posts 4644 Dogs 3 / Races 3 05 Oct 2013 06:10
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fair enough sean there was an article posted on this site a few years ago by a top irish breeder that he believed you bred to your bitches strengths.Here in oz we normally steer away from these type of sires,maybe that will change with this guy.
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