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Brenton Wilson
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Dan Hollywood wrote:

Brenton Wilson wrote:

Dan Hollywood wrote:

I cannot see how Border Park will be any solution to Qld's problem, how many trainers will make the trip compared to those now.

Dan, if they upgrade the track to loam as mooted, and their racing for $1400 a Win, I think a lot of trainers including myself will be down there nearly every week.

The question is, why wouldn't you?

A big IF, If they offer good prize money it would be attractive but that still dont solve the problem.

Dan, all reports state that the club plans to upgrade the facility to loam, (I hope that will include a reconfiguration of the track as well, as the first bend on the 420m can be a nightmare, I know, becuase we lost a good dog on that corner), but will see a larger track similar to Maitland or Warragul.

Reports also state that they may be given two times already being used, which suggests they will be racing for similar prizemoney.

No one is saying that it is going to solve the problems for greyhound racing in Qld. But it does give trainers and owners the opportunity to take a deep breath in the short to medium term, until hopefully other decisions regarding infrastructure are made.

And long term we can have hopefully two one turn tracks in SE Qld.

I don't understand the negativity.



Dan Hollywood
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11 Mar 2013 05:53


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No negativity, just trying to work out RQL's scheme.

Qld has the opportunity but RQL with Seyless and co are making sure funds do not go to the hounds, and what a better way then send them to Border Park. That saves the funds there for Logan to go to the other codes. The gallops have received plenty and with the dogs out of the way it will be the trots turn. I hope trainers take it up but that may be it for a long long time.



Robert Handyside
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11 Mar 2013 06:21


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Dan Hollywood wrote:

No negativity, just trying to work out RQL's scheme.

Qld has the opportunity but RQL with Seyless and co are making sure funds do not go to the hounds, and what a better way then send them to Border Park. That saves the funds there for Logan to go to the other codes. The gallops have received plenty and with the dogs out of the way it will be the trots turn. I hope trainers take it up but that may be it for a long long time.

Dan,Knowing Harry Pledger, I can only guess that a part of the process of "Realising" the ENORMOUS Value of the land, would have been a "Condition" that "Greyhound Racing" was catered for, well into the future By developing a Modern Venue?
The reality is, that G.R.N.S.W. Cannot do justice to that development from Sydney via TAB. Meetings, and it would more or less, be wasted.

The bonus for us, is that we are afforded a State of the art Venue that caters not only for all of the "Gold Coast" Greyhounds but is also supported by the Northern Rivers, ensuring full [Quality] Fields.

All of the above, theoretically takes place with a minimum of financial input from our Infrastructure money, Thereby enabling the full development of Cronulla Park.

I may have it all wrong Dan, but I think that [Perhaps], Common Sense may Prevail, eventually.

I know that I have watched Mr. Hogan for some time and I trust his motives.

I know that with progress there is always some risk but I would like to see this come to "Fruition"

However, I Take your point, that we should always question the Motives of any decision, after being Burnt so many times......

..........Cheers Rob.



Stephen Brough
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11 Mar 2013 08:32


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Guys,

I did say in an earlier post that the track was going to be totally rebuilt.
If you at the google maps link posted earlier.
The tack will go into the trees to the east.

So by deafult, the track will be reconfigured. They want it to be state of the art, so I'd be pretty confident it will be a good track.




Brenton Wilson
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11 Mar 2013 08:56


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From what Steve McGrath was saying tonight on the catching pen, this development is at a minimum 16 months away.


Mark William Claxton
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11 Mar 2013 21:41


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Another diversion from RQL for the development of Cronulla Park???



Brenton Wilson
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mark william claxton wrote:

Another diversion from RQL for the development of Cronulla Park???

Mark

It's not a diversion, not this one anyway.

The developers developing Border Park won't have development approval from Council until at least the end of the year. They then expect the Club to relocate and have a new track and stadium underway within 6 months from that period.

Its just the planning and approvals, these always take time.


Mark William Claxton
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Yes,i understand that Brenton.BUT,RQL and therefore Kevin Dixon is quick to give that a look but Logan doesnt get his same attention?



Brenton Wilson
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mark william claxton wrote:

Yes,i understand that Brenton.BUT,RQL and therefore Kevin Dixon is quick to give that a look but Logan doesnt get his same attention?

Mate this has nothing to do with RQL. This has come from GRNSW and the Tweed Heads Club. RQL would be stupid not to consider it.

If you haven't figured it out by now, you only ever get in positions like his, unless your strings are being pulled. And the puppet masters have no interest in greyhound racing, nor seeing it prosper.


Mark William Claxton
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I totally understand this to,Brenton.But unfortunately they do not legally own the industry's assets due to the "non compliance" with the amalgamation agreement.And i "can tell you" that "they know" this as time and time again it is the "only thing" that the racing Minister and RQL do not answer in regards to my ongoing enquiries.



Brenton Wilson
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12 Mar 2013 05:11


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mark william claxton wrote:

I totally understand this to,Brenton.But unfortunately they do not legally own the industry's assets due to the "non compliance" with the amalgamation agreement.And i "can tell you" that "they know" this as time and time again it is the "only thing" that the racing Minister and RQL do not answer in regards to my ongoing enquiries.

Mark, it doesn't bother them, because they lack integrity.

Harness take the previous RQL Board to court for not honoring the amalgamation agreements, when in fact RQL never had any intention of honoring the amalgamation agreements.

The same is now happening to greyhounds, the only difference is that the new RQL don't feel obliged to support the very same argument Harness took the previous RQL board to court for.

Harness did not want to amalgamate, and were basically black mailed into amalgamation by the previous Labor Racing Minister Mr Lawlor. Who in a letter to the Harness Chairman Mr Bob Lette basically said, "If you do not agree to amalgamate, thoroughbreds and greyhounds will go it alone, and Product Co will be reinvestigated to get greyhounds a deal more commesurate of their wagering turnover". A week later Harness agreed to amalgamate.

Greyhounds are a political beach ball, and only used when the powers want to black mail one of the other codes.


Mark William Claxton
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12 Mar 2013 05:24


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Brenton,could not agree with you more and i strongly believe "the" almalgamation "agreement" is what the industry should constantly press on as IMO it is RQL weakest link on this matter with them?



Dan Hollywood
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12 Mar 2013 05:42


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The only way to beat the harness tosser and Dixon is to demand Logan. If you put a track at Pimpama or Toowoomba the industry will still not go forward and get what it deserves. I think, and its been said numerous time to take action into our own hands and withdraw the product. Would make a bit more noise than an internet site. The spineless Premier just passes the buck, the yellow backed minister does the same, but i suppose thats politics and riddled with gutless no hopers just after a handout.

Mark theres no point going over what has already been covered, RQL have neglected the greyhound industry and should be accountable for what is going on.



Robert Handyside
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12 Mar 2013 06:09


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mark william claxton wrote:

I totally understand this to,Brenton.But unfortunately they do not legally own the industry's assets due to the "non compliance" with the amalgamation agreement.And i "can tell you" that "they know" this as time and time again it is the "only thing" that the racing Minister and RQL do not answer in regards to my ongoing enquiries.

You Are EXACTLY RIGHT MARK...........EXACTLY RIGHT !!!!!!!

Thank CHRIST, Someone is finally understanding !!!!



Robert Handyside
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12 Mar 2013 07:05


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Brenton Wilson wrote:

mark william claxton wrote:

I totally understand this to,Brenton.But unfortunately they do not legally own the industry's assets due to the "non compliance" with the amalgamation agreement.And i "can tell you" that "they know" this as time and time again it is the "only thing" that the racing Minister and RQL do not answer in regards to my ongoing enquiries.

Mark, it doesn't bother them, because they lack integrity.

Harness take the previous RQL Board to court for not honoring the amalgamation agreements, when in fact RQL never had any intention of honoring the amalgamation agreements.

The same is now happening to greyhounds, the only difference is that the new RQL don't feel obliged to support the very same argument Harness took the previous RQL board to court for.

Harness did not want to amalgamate, and were basically black mailed into amalgamation by the previous Labor Racing Minister Mr Lawlor. Who in a letter to the Harness Chairman Mr Bob Lette basically said, "If you do not agree to amalgamate, thoroughbreds and greyhounds will go it alone, and Product Co will be reinvestigated to get greyhounds a deal more commesurate of their wagering turnover". A week later Harness agreed to amalgamate.

Greyhounds are a political beach ball, and only used when the powers want to black mail one of the other codes.

"Harness did not want to amalgamate, and were basically black mailed into amalgamation by the previous Labor Racing Minister Mr Lawlor. Who in a letter to the Harness Chairman Mr Bob Lette basically said, "If you do not agree to amalgamate, thoroughbreds and greyhounds will go it alone, and Product Co will be reinvestigated to get greyhounds a deal more commesurate of their wagering turnover". A week later Harness agreed to amalgamate."

And Brenton You are also EXACTLY RIGHT................HOWEVER, There is more to the story than this.

This is where Mr. Bentley "STUFFED UP" BIG TIME !!!

He knew that he had ENORMOUS LEVERAGE over Harness Racing, as he displayed [Above].

But he had no leverage over the greyhounds because we were already being "SHAFTED" !

so he Promised us what we wanted, and was so convinced that we were of little consequence and could be "Bulldozed" later, that he Arrogantly, [PUBLICLY], made statements and written material,that eventuated in the Amalgamation Agreement of the Greyhounds being
subject to an "EXPRESS CONDITION PRECEDENT"!! That being, the continued Development of CRONULLA PARK, To Completion!!

"In my Opinion" I believe that there was NEVER any intention to build Cronulla Park and so "in my opinion" it was a "Premeditated attempt to Defraud the Greyhound industry of their Major Asset.......: ALBION PARK.

One Has to understand here, that the way that the control bodies were structured individually, prior to amalgamation,.....There was a Requirement for the individual control bodies to actually AGREE TO AMALGAMATE, Which we did Due to the False misrepresentations that were made to us.

So to cut to the chase : Harness were "coerced" into amalgamation, EXACTLY as you have layed out, Brenton , but also in that letter They were CLEARLY TOLD that there was no GUARANTEES ON ALBION PARK for Harness Racing.

Greyhound Racing, was Promised [Eventually] some justice in our own venue, and was thought to be of so little consequence, that they didn't even try to cover their tracks !!!

Hence, The EXPRESS CONDITION PRECEDENT.

As I have said previously, it is disappointing, that with "full Knowledge" of the original "Injustice," that the new Govt.would possibly attempt to "profit" from the travesty.



Dan Hollywood
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And what would be the Brisbane Greyhound Club Presidents response to this Rob?



Robert Handyside
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12 Mar 2013 07:37


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Dan Hollywood wrote:

And what would be the Brisbane Greyhound Club Presidents response to this Rob?

Dan, With All due Respect to the Man, I have found him to be A.W.O.L. in relation to the important issues.

It is DOUBLY DISAPPOINTING, Because [OBVIOUSLY} he has ALL of the required attributes to take a Guiding Role.

Cheers Rob.


Kev Galloway
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According to the April Chase Magazine,Steve is concerned about a TAB slot in NSW,that's WHY he should build over the border which has TWO Parklands TAB slots waiting for a one turn track,come on Steve use your commonsense,was always Qld but now is it's chance for TWO one turn track TAB dates already allocated.Molendinar?


Kev Galloway
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Gold Coast Council has a large parcel of land at Molendinar,and maybe a commonwealth games site could be investigated.



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kev galloway wrote:

that's WHY he should build over the border which has TWO Parklands TAB slots waiting for a one turn track

Kev...Why would the PARKLANDS Committee (if they still exist) give up 2 TAB Time slots to another club?

It's only been SPLASH IN THE OCEAN since the announcement was made for the PARKLANDS Greyhound Club to p1$$0ff, & the promised of 10 MILLION in compensation (which would now be worth close to 13 million) to help set up a new track.

Surely it's only a matter of time before another rumour surfaces of another parcel of land that is gifted to the PGRC.

Yeah sure....when pigs fly.

The major Governing bodies, STATE & FEDERAL have shown they are nothing but fu!! 0f $h!t in the last decades & can't be trusted.

That's why the SEAT in ORANGE (NSW) in the Bi-Election was lost & won by the SFFP, after 80 years or rule under the NATIONALS.

PEOPLE HAVE HAD ENOUGH.

GREYHOUND PEOPLE HAVE HAD ENOUGH.

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